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impera
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5. August 2004 @ 16:20 |
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Sup everybody!
Have read all the stuff that all you guys have already done with the OC of several processors, pretty amazing.
Now, i have a question
Got an XP2000+, suposedly is a BARTON (can this be possible, the letters on the micro are AXDA?) and now i'm OC to 1.8Ghz with FSB 150, multi not changed and voltage not changed, temps are around 35degrees. I have an MSI KT3Ultra2R running fine, with an Kingston 256Mb x 2 PC2700. The settings for my memories are 2-3-3-6 and are running pretty fine. BUT being as greedy as i am, i wonder if there is a chance that i can OC for 2.1Ghz or more, i have good cooling (Thermaltake TR2 M2) running a LOW with no temp problems. HOW CAN I GET THE 2Ghz or more?
have played with the FSB and i cant go beyond 150, the system locks or reboots, tryed the voltage (1.60, 1.625, 1.655, 1.675, 1.70) with higer FSB = no results.
However, I have tryed with combinations like FSB=157, voltage=1.625 and got the system running, but on windows, like after 10 mins of usage, the system locks. Tryed for diferent voltages for the same FSB -> no boot or more locking. Memories are at 2-3-3-6. Any ideas?
Thnks guys!
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The_OGS
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6. August 2004 @ 07:10 |
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Hi Impera,
No I don't think you have a Barton.
The Barton core runs minimum 166(333DDR) FSB and has 512KB cache.
Your XP2000+ runs 133(266DDR) x 12.5 with 256KB cache.
If your MSI is a 333-capable mobo, then you could try your FSB @ 166(333).
166 x 12.5 = approx 2080MHz
Important: this 'OEM' O/C applies the proper dividers for AGP and PCI, so they remain 66 and 33MHz :-)
Your memory is spec'd for 166(333) and so, your mobo would run 5:5 synchronous FSB:RAM
Set your RAM for conservative or SPD settings, and try to make your rig POST at the 166FSB.
Apply CPU core voltage as req'd.
Ensure excellent cooling; don't go nuts with the voltage.
If it won't POST within a few tenths of the OEM voltage, it ain't gonna happen...
WTF, with H2O-cooling you could really crank the voltage - just don't start a fire (or blame me) if it melts down, right? LoL ;-)
Actually, XP2500+ Bartons are cheap-cheap-cheap right now, so you could simply procure one and pop it right in! Factory-stock voltages, low heat and 512KB cache (bonus) too...
But good luck with the XP2000+
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impera
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6. August 2004 @ 15:13 |
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Thnks OGS, i shall try the FSB=166 and play with the voltages (my mobo does not let me go beyond 1.700v) lets see if it works.
Memories are right now at 2-3-3-6 with 4way interleave, tryed 2-2-2-5 but winxp got an error and reboots :(
Of course i'll like an h2o cooling, but no budget for that :( anyway, i have put several fans over the case (this is nuts, i mean, i have disarmed a processor heatsink, take off the fan and put it into the case hahaha and it works fine!) and the cooling is fine, with low rpms on the TR2-M2 the temp is max at 45 with load.
so lets try, shall post for results. THNKS! :)
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impera
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7. August 2004 @ 11:20 |
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OH well, tryed the wiring -> no results, tryed simply with 166 FSB -> no boot, played with the voltages -> the same. Maximum of 150 FSB and 12.5x, voltage untouched.
BUT with 158 and 157 FSB i got Windows boot, but it locks. can be something about memory settings? cant go beyond 1.700v, perhaps rising the memory voltage?
Athlon XP 2000+ t-bread @ 1.887 Ghz
Thermaltake TR2-M2 cooler
MSI KT3Ultra2R, bios 5.7 (latest)
2 x 256Mb Kingston PC2700
Nvidia TNT2 32Mb 4x AGP
Western 80Gb ata133
Seagate 60Gb ata 100 (raid)
Seagate 4GB ata 66 (raid)
Samsung 17" 710MP LCD-TV
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impera
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7. August 2004 @ 12:15 |
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WOHAA, made it finally with the "single wire" trick and FSB=166, however the system locks from once a time. Shall try rising a little bit the voltage to see what happens. lets see.....
YAHOO, its stable, at least with high load, i have to try with EXTREME LOAD!!!
finally i hit the 2GHZ THNKS EVERYBODY no i am happy with this.
Shall continue with all this stuff, if i can help anyone else, i shall!!
Athlon XP 2000+ t-bread @ 1.887 Ghz
Thermaltake TR2-M2 cooler
MSI KT3Ultra2R, bios 5.7 (latest)
2 x 256Mb Kingston PC2700
Nvidia TNT2 32Mb 4x AGP
Western 80Gb ata133
Seagate 60Gb ata 100 (raid)
Seagate 4GB ata 66 (raid)
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Praetor
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11. August 2004 @ 03:08 |
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Got an XP2000+, suposedly is a BARTON (can this be possible, the letters on the micro are AXDA?)
Get CPUz (http://www.cpuid.com) and check the first tab. Odds are you've got a Palomino but it could be a TBredA.
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Memories are right now at 2-3-3-6 with 4way interleave, tryed 2-2-2-5 but winxp got an error and reboots :(
If you loosen the timings you can (a) get more performance (unless u fall into the 1% of people who benifit from timings) (b) allow your memory to pace itself with the CPU more :)
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Shall continue with all this stuff
That's the spirit! :D
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impera
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11. August 2004 @ 18:43 |
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OH well, since i finally hit the 2Ghz barrier, the system is quite stable, at least while running applications and stuff, can be for hrs working on that with no problems, even running the Prime95, with no problems.
HOWEVER, it seems that when i pay QUAKE 3, my system locks. :(
tryed several memory timings -> can only get a little more of playing time.
tryed rising a bit the mem. and processor voltage -> same thing, still locks.
Well it seems that i have to use only the FSB=150 in order to get the system to run stable WITH THE GAME. :P
Well, it was fun having the proc. at 2Ghz, while it lasted. ^_^
Athlon XP 2000+ t-bread @ 1.887 Ghz
Thermaltake TR2-M2 cooler
MSI KT3Ultra2R, bios 5.7 (latest)
2 x 256Mb Kingston PC2700
Nvidia TNT2 32Mb 4x AGP
Western 80Gb ata133
Seagate 60Gb ata 100 (raid)
Seagate 4GB ata 66 (raid)
Samsung 17" 710MP LCD-TV
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conny119
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12. August 2004 @ 13:44 |
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woz up Praetor, i need your advice on a couple of things. the first is that i want to overclock my computer, my PC is running at 1.79GHZ with what i've read thats shite for what i've got. PC specs are AMD 2200+ with retail heat sink, 512 DDR RAM PC2100, syntax SV266A mobo (VIA chipset KT266a).
the second advice i need is that i'm buyin a second PC, with a AMD 2500 barton and want to overclock it to 3200 like yours :) and i need to know if this cooler is enough to cool it down, Arctic Cooling Copper Silent 2l. http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?rb=1104940288&action=c2hvd3N1YmNhdGVnb3J5X3BhZ2U=&subcat_uid=648. also i need to know if i OC the 2500 to 3200 will i need a mobo that supports upto 3200.
thx
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Praetor
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12. August 2004 @ 14:30 |
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woz up Praetor, I need your advice on a couple of things. the first is that I want to overclock my computer, my PC is running at 1.79GHZ with what i've read thats shite for what i've got. PC specs are AMD 2200+ with retail eat sink, 512 DDR RAM PC2100, syntax SV266A mobo (VIA chipset KT266a).
Back in the day the KT266 was a hot chipset but you shouldnt expect a lot of OC headroom from it :(
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the second advice I need is that i'm buyin a second PC, with a AMD 2500 barton and want to overclock it to 3200 like yours :) and I need to know if this cooler is enough to cool it down, Arctic Cooling Copper Silent 2l.
The link didnt show me anything useful but if you're looking for a silent cooler, there's the Thermaltake K7 Silentboost... extremely quite and quite effective at that
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also I need to know if I OC the 2500 to 3200 will I need a mobo that supports upto 3200.
Pretty much any board running a 333Mhz bus or faster will work fine (i.e., KT333, SIS<something>, nForce2, KT400 etc). You're probably best off going with an nForce2 based board as those are very OC friendly :)
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conny119
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13. August 2004 @ 03:06 |
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so know i need to know how to over clock me 2200
thx
also wot board u running you 2500
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pulse54
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14. August 2004 @ 23:44 |
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Praetor,
I was searching for OC info and saw that you and I have very similar setups. I'm pretty much a newbie and was wondering what timings and multipliers...etc you had? Would you recommend those for me? Thanks!
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conny119
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16. August 2004 @ 06:46 |
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praetor could you point me in the direction of a guide to OC my 2200+
thx
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16. August 2004 @ 17:46 |
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praetor could you...hehe jk. whew the guy is swamped from the sounds of it. i dunno how he does it...but he does it good :handclap:
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roaper
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16. August 2004 @ 18:46 |
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I just bought an amd athlon xp 2500+ it is on a soyo moboard and I have it clocked at 185 bus speed I think :-) according to sisoftware sandra it is running at 2.04ghz and 40c/ 104f all with the stock block and fan on the proccesser is this good and can sisoftware sandra be trusted?
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Praetor
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18. August 2004 @ 07:35 |
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also wot board u running you 2500
Look at my sig :P
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I was searching for OC info and saw that you and I have very similar setups. I'm pretty much a newbie and was wondering what timings and multipliers...etc you had? Would you recommend those for me? Thanks!
1. Start up the system
2. Press DEL
3. Goto "Advanced" --> "Advanced Chipset Features" (or whatever, i'm going from memory)
Now you have some options:
- Fiddle with the multiplier (prolly the most ideal option)
- Fiddle with the FSB value (works too but you have to watch stability as it affects other stuff too)
- You can also start fiddling with your RAM clocking and timing ... in most cases you'll get more performance if you choose "Optimal" timings and ramp the clock up ... sure it'll take more clock cycles but if you can clock the memory fast enough the "real" time (measured in nanoseconds, rather than 'cycles') will actually drop quite dramatically
- Save your settings and reboot
- You may want/need to add some voltage here and there to keep things stable
Golden Rules of OCing
- Take it slow
- Get good cooling
- Test, test, test... simply booting is not sufficient
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praetor could you point me in the direction of a guide to OC my 2200+
What mobo do you have?
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with the stock block and fan on the proccesser is this good and can sisoftware sandra be trusted?
That's quite impressive for stock :) ... Sandra's a bit synthetic but that's only when it comes to benching... the actual information is good :) (if you want a "second opinion", get PC Wizard, http://www.cpuid.com ... it's free)
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conny119
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18. August 2004 @ 13:13 |
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my mobo is syntax SV266A, i overclocked it a tiny bit bit when i run sisoft sandra it says the temp it too high, wot sort of temp is too high for a retail fan?
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Praetor
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18. August 2004 @ 17:48 |
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my mobo is syntax SV266A, I overclocked it a tiny bit bit when I run sisoft sandra it says the temp it too high, wot sort of temp is too high for a retail fan?
Pretty much anything. The XP2200, a TBredA should run much cooler than a Palo but stock fans were designed for people who want stock performance. If you want to OC, get an aftermarket fan; in general 70º should be the panic line with 60º as the "quite concerned".
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conny119
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19. August 2004 @ 10:04 |
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nice1 im gonna keep this PC runnnin stock thx any way
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roaper
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19. August 2004 @ 10:32 |
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hey praetor my barton 2500+ according to sandra and cpuz is 11.0x is there any way to make this multiplie higher? and where do I get a bigger cpu fan just for feeling of security hehe I might want to run this soyo kv7me board up to the max
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The_OGS
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19. August 2004 @ 12:35 |
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Didn't know Soya has K7VME
They have a K7VEM - is this your board?
It uses VIA VT8361 / 686B chipsets and supports only 100/133 FSB.
Your Barton runs 166 FSB (x11 = 1.83GHz)
Roaper the multipliers have been locked on almost every CPU for about 10 years now :-)
To overclock yours you will need 200 FSB, good power supply, good memory, and good cooling.
Then, you get instant XP3200+
My latest O/C is XP2000+ (Thoroughbred)
From 133 FSB x 12.5 to 166 FSB x 12.5
= instant XP2600+ using 1.65v instead of 1.60v.
Mobo is Asus A7V8X-X, very inexpensive.
And the AGP/PCI remain a perfect 66/33
Too kewl eh? Not a Barton though... (only 256k cache)
But much peppier than XP2000+
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19. August 2004 @ 13:59 |
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Praetor
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21. August 2004 @ 13:16 |
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sup praetor, i've been surfin the net lookin for mobo's you mentioned for OCing a XP2500+ i've found a few that are in my price range they are
Well anything based on the nForce2 chipset is a good buy ... ive not dealt with the Soltek boards (nor have i dealt with SOltek for some time now) but the A7N series is a superb one and is more than capaable of allowing you the OC potential :)
Edited: stupid copy-paste function didnt paste my response :P (damn laptop keyboards)
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conny119
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21. August 2004 @ 13:23 |
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i think you've missed some of your reply. just shows even the best make mistakes
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indienemo
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23. August 2004 @ 07:12 |
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Hi,
Im new to overclocking, Ive successfully Oc'd ,my graphics card from 250mhz to 300mhz on the GPU clock and memory bus from 333mhz to 400mhz...
Id like to know how to overclock my CPU, can anyone either point me in the right direction or give me a short tutorial. thanks alot, my specs are as follows:
CPU Properties
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 2157 MHz (6.5 x 332)
CPU Alias Thoroughbred-B
CPU Stepping B0
L1 Code Cache 64 KB
L1 Data Cache 64 KB
L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)
Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID 04/20/2004-KM400-8235-6A6LYM4BC-00
Motherboard Name MSI MS-6786
Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type DEC Alpha EV6
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 166 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 332 MHz
Bandwidth 2655 MB/s
Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type DDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 166 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 332 MHz
Bandwidth 2655 MB/s
Chipset Bus Properties
Bus Type VIA V-Link
Bus Width 8-bit
Real Clock 66 MHz (ODR)
Effective Clock 531 MHz
Bandwidth 531 MB/s
Motherboard Physical Info
CPU Sockets/Slots 1
Expansion Slots 3 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 CNR
RAM Slots 2 DIMM
Integrated Devices Audio, Video, LAN
Form Factor Micro ATX
Motherboard Chipset KM400
BIOS Properties
BIOS Type Award
Award BIOS Type Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Award BIOS Message W6786VP6 V1.6 042004 10:14:59
System BIOS Date 04/20/04
Video BIOS Date 05/27/03
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Praetor
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23. August 2004 @ 14:51 |
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i think you've missed some of your reply. just shows even the best make mistakes
Heehee yeah, stupid laptop keybaord is the excuse im stickin to :P
indienemo
While ive not had experience with that board (nor that chipset for a few months now), I can tell you right away your OCing potentially will probably be noticeably less than on a board bsed on the NF2 chipset. In either case, MSI is a OC-friendly brand and there are essentially two different ways to improve performance.......(hmmmm this sounds familiar ... *goes to look for a link*). Have a read: http://www.computerforum.com/showthread.php?t=1771
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