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17. August 2011 @ 12:52 |
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Heavily metered...wow. There's just no privacy anymore. I easily stream a great deal of netflix and youtube a month. Hope they don't think I'm doing something illegal :S
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17. August 2011 @ 12:53 |
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I guess this thread is infected with the "New Page" bug...
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17. August 2011 @ 13:05 |
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well i get 4.5Mb for £8, i cant really complain. so wait sam, you are not using BT? what company are you going through? well when imoved to this house last august, the time set was december 2010, then march 2011 then sept 2011 now dec 2011, god knows when itll actually work.
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17. August 2011 @ 13:25 |
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Omega: It's hardly an invasion of privacy, all they monitor is how much data you send (which every ISP actually does, they just don't always tell you. Most ISPs will send you a letter of warning if you use more than a certain amount in a month that breaches their fair usage policy). When companies have to pay for each GB of bandwidth they use, they have to pass that policy onto the customers unfortunately. If you thought bandwidth monitoring was bad, look up the IWF and packet-shaping schemes most ISPs employ.
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17. August 2011 @ 16:02 |
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Hey guys I'm looking for a good video card with HDMI output.a friend is looking for one to hook his TV up to his rig(my old E8400 rig). Any advise on which to look at? He doesn't game just wants to use it for his tv. Hows a HD5770? ??
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17. August 2011 @ 16:22 |
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why not go for an ever cheaper card then if no gaming at all?
somethign around $50 should suffice.
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17. August 2011 @ 16:27 |
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For just HDTV, an HD6450 will do.
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17. August 2011 @ 16:33 |
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I concur, LOL! Though as one of the reviews said, make sure the case has adequate cooling. The passive cooling may not be very good...
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17. August 2011 @ 16:37 |
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Well, if you want a passive one, get a case with a fan. If you don't have a case fan, there are actively cooled versions.
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17. August 2011 @ 17:31 |
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Currently getting 8Mb for $40/month with no bandwidth caps. At night when everyone is sleeping I can get maybe 10-11Mb. Thats' 1MB/s lowest, 1.3MB/s+ highest, maybe 1.1MB/s average.
The connection is generally limited to 8Mb but they can be generous on given days. They do throttle torrent traffic but easily fixed with protocol encryption.
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17. August 2011 @ 18:08 |
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Just had our ISP come out. He recommended dropping our downstream to 3Mbps. We're outside the city limits, so it's just too far for a stable connection. Apparently congestion has worsened things :(
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17. August 2011 @ 18:14 |
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Well its in the coolermaster RC690 case and has 6 fans in it. It is very cool and plenty of air.so something like a 5770 would be overkill for what he wants then. Ill have him look at the 6450 then
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17. August 2011 @ 20:47 |
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Loking at the 6570 that has a fan and a descent price as well
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18. August 2011 @ 00:33 |
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Well if he ever wants to do some gaming it can come in handy. Even if you don't use it heavily it never helps the situation to have slow hardware.
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18. August 2011 @ 01:06 |
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I'm not much of a gamer, but I have to have the option! At the time, the GTX 260 was no slouch. It's rather outdated now though :p Though it can play many games at an agreeable framerate. Though agreeable framerate is an argument in itself. Some say a minimum of 30, others say 60. I think that GTA IV ran pretty decent at 30 - 45Fps. Though it often would rise above that. That was with fairly high settings mind you. I'm probably gonna reinstall it here in the next week. I need a fix LOL!
Of course with Grand Theft Auto 4, the CPU is the most important factor.
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20. August 2011 @ 05:39 |
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GTA4 is an unusual case though, it's very demanding on the CPU, and it's also very nvidia-biased, so even an outdated card like the GTX260 can keep up with modern high-end Radeons.
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20. August 2011 @ 05:42 |
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Cmon Sam the GTX260 isn't that outdated :P
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20. August 2011 @ 05:48 |
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Three years is a long time in the technology industry. Not saying it isn't still useful, but it's getting on a bit now!
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20. August 2011 @ 06:00 |
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Oh agreed but the GTX260 is far from slow.
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20. August 2011 @ 06:02 |
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Never said it was, point is a card of its age in GTA4 can still hold its own with a high end card of today from AMD.
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20. August 2011 @ 07:25 |
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Also agreed. My point though was that not only the Nvidia bias, but the card's initial high performance is helping it keep up. Anything that can handle Crysis adequately is beefy in my book. I still consider it a touch above the 4870 given the bias.
Also tbf I would have definitely purchased a GTX275 if they weren't so disproportionately expensive at the time.
The 8800GTS just passed its 2 year anniversary today btw(on the invoice). Not only does it still game well, it's been folding constantly for just under a year of uptime now. Say all you want, G92 was one of the best designs Nvidia ever came out with.
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20. August 2011 @ 08:35 |
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'handle crysis adequately' - how long is a piece of string? My X1900 handled it 'adequately' at 800x600, my HD3870 handled it 'adequately' at high res without shadows enabled, where do you draw the line?
In other news, I ran a few comparisons of recent games from GameGPU site. Because of biasing issues, and the increased complexity, this only considers radeons, but since people are roughly familiar with what the equivalents are for geforces now, they shouldn't really be necessary.
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MQ, HQ, VHQ, UQ: Medium/High/Very High/Ultra Quality
EF3: Eyefinity, 3 displays
A30: Average 30fps
M30: Minimum 30fps
CF/TCF/QCF: Crossfire/tri/quad
Q2F: Quad crossfire with two cards
AUS: Antilles unlock switch (880mhz vs 830mhz on HD6990)
OC+: Overclocked beyond AUS setting
N/A: Not possible on currently available hardware
/!\: Denotes game did not have fully-functioning crossfire support when tested.
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21. August 2011 @ 07:25 |
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'handle crysis adequately' - how long is a piece of string? My X1900 handled it 'adequately' at 800x600, my HD3870 handled it 'adequately' at high res without shadows enabled, where do you draw the line?
I consider adequately to be all Very High settings at 1920 x 1200 and managing an average of 36FPS without any of the tweaks, which I easily made one do. And it was faster at the game than my single 4870. I daresay that's fairly adequate power for gaming, considering Crysis still runs way worse than the majority of new games coming out.
Also F3AR and Crysis 2 were decent. Really liked the Dx11 and texture upgrades for Crysis 2. F3AR was disappointing though. FEAR 1 was exquisite, FEAR 2 had consolitis, and F3AR is just a big flop. Also IMO FEAR 1 was graphically superior to the other two. Maybe not technically, but art direction and use of the graphics engine's capabilities goes a lot further than pretty shaders.
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29. August 2011 @ 21:34 |
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Originally posted by Jeff:
Interestingly enough my most recent gaming conquest has been playing through CoD: United Offensive again. Wow Treyarch where did you go wrong? United Offensive is easily one of the best games in the series IMO.
Wait - seriously Jeff, you don't mean the one that starts out with soldiers in a truck pretending to be Germans, do you? And then later when you rescue the British captain you have to dodge the searchlights?
Wait - you said you have to play the original and then get to the expansion, so it can't be that one. I'm sure I own United Offensive - I think I bought every version of those older games - I'll have to check it out a little more closely.
By the way guys, for Red River and the $5 DLC, don't be a dummy like me if you buy the Valley of Death expansion. I did read that it included 8 new maps, for Last Stand, etc. But I actually thought it also included a new campaign and I couldn't figure out where the campaign was - customer service sent me a note "unfortunately Rich, no new campaign." Duhhh
Hey, getting caught up to Sam's new graph, has anybody started playing Crysis 2? I now have the money to upgrade the 8800GTX paired with my quad stock 9450, to a 6970 (that's the one, right, 2 gigs memory, at about $330?) but the games I play, like BC2, are running okay on the 8800GTX. And I have the feeling that even a 6970 with my 9450 quad, wouldn't handle Crysis, let alone Crysis 2.
Speaking of Battlefield, is anybody playing the beta of BC3 yet?
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30. August 2011 @ 06:05 |
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Wait - seriously Jeff, you don't mean the one that starts out with soldiers in a truck pretending to be Germans, do you? And then later when you rescue the British captain you have to dodge the searchlights?
Nope Rich that's Medal of Honor: Allied Assault which I also have all the expansions for.
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Wait - you said you have to play the original and then get to the expansion, so it can't be that one. I'm sure I own United Offensive - I think I bought every version of those older games - I'll have to check it out a little more closely.
Well you didn't necessarily have to beat CoD1 beforehand but it follows in chronological order somewhat. CoD1 focused on Stalingrad and the Normandy landings while United Offensive was about Kursk and the Battle of the Bulge which both took place after the events in the first game. Remember, this is the expansion for Call of Duty 1, not Medal of Honor. Medal of Honor is a much older game tech-wise.
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Hey, getting caught up to Sam's new graph, has anybody started playing Crysis 2? I now have the money to upgrade the 8800GTX paired with my quad stock 9450, to a 6970 (that's the one, right, 2 gigs memory, at about $330?) but the games I play, like BC2, are running okay on the 8800GTX. And I have the feeling that even a 6970 with my 9450 quad, wouldn't handle Crysis, let alone Crysis 2.
Rich we're telling you the 9450 is just fine. Just overclock the thing. It's basically guaranteed to 3.4GHz problem free.
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