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spamual
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18. September 2008 @ 15:48 |
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see my edited post above for my case which i just ordered
damn back a page, might aswell list here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112141
ok so this is what it is:
Parts
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Lian Li A70B
£129.99
1
£129.99
Lian Li CD bezel
£7.99
1
£7.99
Radcut in roof
£15.00
1
£15.00
Rad Grill
£12.00
1
£12.00
Window Cut
£20.00
1
£20.00
Moherboard tray Cuts
£15.00
1
£15.00
Window Acrylic Mirror
£17.00
1
£17.00
Sunbeam Rheobus Extreme Black
£24.99
1
£24.99
Cable Ties Black
£0.00
1
£0.00
Cable Tie Bases
£0.00
1
£0.00
Braiding + Heatshrink
£0.00
2
£0.00
Acryan cathodes UV
£5.99
1
£5.99
Acryan cathodes White
£5.99
1
£5.99
Molex Y adaptor
£1.00
1
£1.00
Molex to 3 pin
£1.59
1
£1.59
Shipping
£0.00
1
£0.00
Total
£256.54
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harvrdguy
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18. September 2008 @ 15:54 |
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Abuzar - you're back! They thought you said "Remove me!" How did they think that? What really happened was that on the PC Builder's thread you got upset and you posted "Loco you s*** *ss!" After they banned you, you claimed they misunderstood your shaff-like keyboard malfunction and you just meant "you smoke grass!" which is perfectly fine - cool even.
Booze - are YOU the one smoking grass?? WHAT DO YOU MEAN $200 IN THE P4 WON'T DO ANYTHING???? Have you gone bonkers? That gives me 2 gigs of memory, not 1, so I'm back on Battlefield 2, plus it gives me a 3850 not my current x850xtpe. Granted the 3850 only pulls about 20% more raw fill, but all the extra shader pipelines, etc. plus shader 3.0 support, will be nice - at least for a while.
Booze, I totally agree - on the new build an extra few hundred will be worth it to get a crysis raping machine (well - nothing will do that.) At the rate that I keep machines (take Sam's lightning fast upgrade path and invert it lol) I might as well go for something pretty strong on the new build.
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18. September 2008 @ 16:15 |
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Haha, ACTUALLY sam doesn't upgrade THAT often.
And about your P4, well you know the saying... can't polish a you know what. Not trying to be mean, but it's still going to suck 200 dollars later lol! It wont be money well spent. Trust me, I've been poor before and I know what money well spent is!
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spamual
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18. September 2008 @ 16:37 |
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id agree with boozer.
sell your components take your $200 add another $600 + the money you make selling your P4 and make a nice rig
btw a 4870 at 1920 can run crysis DX10 Vhigh 30FPS :D
my case i bought today, and ETA is next week firday
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18. September 2008 @ 16:40 |
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You paid that much for the case? Honestly brother, it looks pretty Ugly to me.
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spamual
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18. September 2008 @ 16:42 |
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well you liek the taccy looks of 120mm blue leds fans in the front dont you?
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harvrdguy
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18. September 2008 @ 16:44 |
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Wow, shaff - you're modifying that case like crazy. Lots of radiator cuts - who is doing all the cuts for you, not newegg. I take it that this will be a water cooled rig. How many radiators in all will you have, shaff?
Is that why not NZXT - is that more an air-cooled case?
I see two 120mm inlet fans, one 120mm rear exhaust. The NZXT that Sam likes has 3 120mm inlet fans, a top 120mm fan as I recall, and up to 3 more fans somewhere. Why are you picking LianLi - Ray got one too - sam says they're too expensive!
Booze, you can't polish - what - don't you dare say it!! You guys are all so "P4 sucks" I want you to go back in time 3 years, when there was only p4, and you'd be saying - "Yeah Rich go man go, spend that $200, max the rig" Lol. Ok, I'm 3 years behind, I admit it.
I'm selling little tiny houses right now and I only make $2,000 a sale, so $1000 for a killer new build is nice, but a lousy $200 to keep going for a while (remember Booze you said no new build yet until Nehelem) until the end of the year or so - Yeah, good move Rich. :)
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18. September 2008 @ 16:59 |
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No, actually. I choose a CM690 because of less lights and I moved the front blue LED fan to the side.
Plus, you do realize that the power LED on your case is almost as bright as a LED fan? And the air cooling is not that good either, but that should be fine since you are doing water.
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spamual
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18. September 2008 @ 17:26 |
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actually we would be saying ditch the P4 and get an amd athalon XP system back then :P
yeah a 120.3 in the roof will be put, only 1 rad atm, might go to put a 120.2 in the front later on this year for the chipsets and mosfets and south bridge.
i will be w.c the CPU (E8600) and GPU(4870)
the case has 1 intake, and 2 out take. the PSU can be mounted top or bottom, ill choose bottom, and where it isnt (the top) will have a HDD cage with fan, and i wont be putting HDDs there, so itll be an out take fan or i might make it an intake and get cold air to the top mounted 120.3
its a beautiful all aluminium constructed case and oozes quality.
and no not from newegg as im from the UK, its from www.chilledpc.co.uk
the NZXT tempest as 2 intake at the front no?
and you knwo how most cases have rivets everywhere, well lianli even saw that and use screws instead, so the case is fully take-apartable.
you pay for ut most quailty and though with lian li
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spamual
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18. September 2008 @ 17:28 |
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why isnt air cooling fine, and no led is not that bright at all.
and was it not you who loved your plastic armour? and IICR the CM690 is plastic up front aswell.
nothing says quality IMO (remember this is my OPINION) like brushed aluminium.
also there are 2 front intake, a HDD cage and then 2 fins just behind the HDDs cage aswell.
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18. September 2008 @ 17:47 |
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my CM690 supported two front fans. Also it had a fan up top to get cool air DIRECTLY to the CPU cooler, and a side fan to get cooler air DIRECTLY to the video card.
Not something that Lian-Li case can do. And I did love my Armor(it's not Armour BTW, since it IS a brand name haha) but one of the main reasons for getting rid of it was the BRIGHT lights and clear side panel. I wouldn't buy one again as the cooling in that case isn't that great either. It's on par with that Lian Li though :)
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18. September 2008 @ 18:07 |
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In crossfire supported titles, the performance gain is a solid 2.4. Given that the HD4850 is only about 2.0-2.1 times as fast as the HD3850, it would win out, but as I say, Crossfire has to work to see those gains.
Rich: The P4 is such a bottleneck, you won't see any performance increase at all in games like Crysis, you do realise that right?
Oh and Spam is exactly right, three years ago we'd all be telling you to get an Athlon XP instead... haha, I would. Actually that'd be more like four years ago, three years ago and it'd be an Athlon64 3200+ instead... :P
As for the case, Lian-Li cases as a general rule aren't cooled as well as the average case, it's always been true, is still true now. However, Spam is using a Watercooled system, all these require is a decent path away from the radiator. With external watercooling, you're fine. With watercooling like he's using though, he will experience very hot passive components due to air stagnation. I know he likes his PCs quiet, so he won't have high speed fans in their to counteract the lack of room in the case. I have seen first hand what internal radiators do to cases without case fans - memory runs in the 70s (celsius) and graphics card voltage regs between 90 and 120 celsius during load, on a graphics card that uses a similar amount of power to the HD4870, if not less (an X1900XT-X). The southbridge also gets quite hot on modern boards too, so that may also suffer.
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spamual
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18. September 2008 @ 19:18 |
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well we will see and i shall report my temps then. and yes i will have fans on the rad, and its not a small cramped case, its absolutely massive.
well we will see :)
and boozer, DAMN THE AMERICAN BRAND SPELLING :p
its why i always misspell the case when looking at prices in the UK lol
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18. September 2008 @ 19:22 |
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As it's a brand name, I don't have that issue... :P
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harvrdguy
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18. September 2008 @ 19:40 |
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I hear you guys, I am not even going to try crysis on the P4. The $200 will allow the P4 to limp along for a while, during which time the new build will slowly come together.
Yeah going back 3 years, or four, AMD 64 bit ruled over the P4. These days it looks like none of you guys are going to use AMD cpus - everybody's in the intel camp these days, is that right?
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18. September 2008 @ 19:41 |
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yep yep
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18. September 2008 @ 19:45 |
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Any machine worth its salt does at the moment, yes.
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18. September 2008 @ 22:07 |
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AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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spamual
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18. September 2008 @ 22:18 |
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id say drop down to an E5200 and get a 4850 ,and drop the PSU to 450W VX and get a p45 mobo, OR even a OCZ 600w, among others.
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18. September 2008 @ 22:58 |
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Yeah, Spamual(lol) is right on this time.
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19. September 2008 @ 07:39 |
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Agreed on the E5200 and HD4850, but I'd disagree about the OCZ 600W PSU. A VX 450 Corsair is fine, but for a build like that, even a 380 Earthwatts would do fine.
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19. September 2008 @ 16:05 |
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Yeah, you're probably right. An OCZ StealthXStream 600W is too much for that build, though I think it would work well all the same. Mine does just dandy with an OC'd Core 2 Duo and an 8800GTS G92. I think it's at least of a much higher quality than other 600W PSUs in that price range. Certainly capable of 600W+
But I think the 450VX is is about the perfect balance of wattage and quality for the price. They're under-speced too. I've seen them shut down at well over 500W. All Corsair PSUs don't even ramp the fan up until you reach the specified max power draw. But this is due to the built in sensor, not the temps. You can push them quite high above the "max power". My 620HX does about 750W on our local PC Shop's tester before it shuts down for safety with a temp of only 53*C. Though I don't think it's a good idea to do it all the time or depend on it. It's just really nice to know that the extra power is there :)
Nothing against Antec, but... 380W with an 8800GT... *shudder* lol
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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19. September 2008 @ 16:32 |
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To be fair the 380 Earthwatts is actually pretty damn good.
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19. September 2008 @ 16:36 |
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I know, but I mean... 380W... It just doesn't seem right, lol
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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19. September 2008 @ 16:38 |
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lol I know it doesn't seem right but the efficiency is right up there with the Corsair units
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