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31. July 2008 @ 00:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my apologies Russ, didnt realise your were saying it in a jokey manner, and i take full responsibility. i was just replying to boozer and i was making him learn how crap asus are at TIM. they use the worst crap i have ever seen it was a bitch to take off as well. so hard i had to hold a full heat hair dryer to remove half of it, by which time my hand was burning due to the heat sink, and the rest to alot of credit card to take off. non of the ISO propanol i use worked, not did the arctic cooler 2 part solution for cleaning TIM. yes i like the asus board, their layouts, colours, Inability, stability, BUT why the hell do they have such crap TIM on an Ocing board, i dont know, not to mention their horrid (read non existent) email customer service. :(

and boozer, unlucky, but until the P5Qs, their low end boards are horrible to put it nicely. now event he P5Q normal one, is simply superb (for Ocing, stability), and for the price, cannot be beaten.

cant you give back the P5K pro and buy the P5Q? OR get a nice P35 GB board?



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31. July 2008 @ 00:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I like the damn board. Plus it's not "low end" more like mid-range. It's still freakin pissed me off though. Plus I cant return it. Unless someone wants to buy it for 80 plus shipping.
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That small enzotech works better than the gigabyte heatsink?


The temperature is the same with both, but the Enzotec pulls a lot more heat out of the motherboard (as Nuck said it would) so the CPU temp went down a bit too! With the 40mm Antec on it, it works perfectly! 2200 rpm, 6.5 cfm and 26Dba! Works very well with none of that high pitched scream most 40mm fans make!

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31. July 2008 @ 07:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Midrange boards are the only trouble zone. we just refer to those as 'low end' in the face of brutes like the X48-DQ6 and Rampage Formula. My school has around a hundred cheap barebone systems that are all Asus, and only two of them had gone wrong in 3 years. However, midrange boards like the A8N-SLI SE, P5N-E SLI, P5K-SE, A8R-MVP, etc. hmmm...



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They didn't line up the memory slots on the board. Now I cant properly install the dominator memory fans because it wobbles
IF it helps they don't seem to be real snug on any board but once they're seated they do work.

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Well I will try to see if they work. If not I'll give them away or something.
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Pretty good deal here to build a decent backup computer. Add some decent memory, a CPU cooler, a hard drive and some fans, an it should be under $300 for the whole thing.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/...u=M452-2845%20A

Spare me the C2D vs AMD bit, as we're talking about a back up computer here, not a front line machine! $149 ain't bad for what you get!

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That's actually quite impressive. As far as I'm concerned though, it doesn't include a power supply.



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Hmm! I could use a back up PC, the three C2D's that I have, the two Opterons 170 and 175, The D45, and the CD2 laptop that I currently have might not be enough?:P

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Hmm! I could use a back up PC, the three C2D's that I have, the two Opterons 170 and 175, The D45, and the CD2 laptop that I currently have might not be enough?:P

ROFLMAO!! We're so poor here, we only own 4 desktops and 2 laptops at the moment! LOL!! Still, add less then the $149 price tag to it and you have very fine backup computer that's plenty fast enough to do the job! It's always nice to have spare or two! LOL!!

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As far as I'm concerned though, it doesn't include a power supply.

I'll reserve judgment on that until I can see what's in the one provided. As long as it's not dangerous, I'd probably stick with it! If it is P-Poor, Decent replacements are available cheap enough!

Corsair XMS2 PC2 6400 $34 after $25 MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145175
Arctic Freezer 64 $26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185125
Seagate 250GB 16MB cache $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148262

Throw in a couple of fans and you're in business for cheap! Not a recommendation, but just what I would put in one for me! It still wouldn't be a bad deal at under $300!

Best Regards,
Russ


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Is it likely to be any good in a barebone that includes that many parts for $150?



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I saw that too and it is a good deal for the money. too bad the mobo doesn't have an AMD chipset. I'm staying clear of nvidia chipsets period.

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Russ


It is truly a good start for someone looking to get in and out cheaply, especially if they have an extra operating system and other parts on hand. Hmm! I have 3 matched pairs of corsair DDR2, two PCIe cards, 3 power supplies, a water cooling system (giving one away to the winner of Fantasy Football), 2 DVD RW drives both Lite-On, one CoolerMaster Centurion, but I will need a new hard drive.;D

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I saw that too and it is a good deal for the money. too bad the mobo doesn't have an AMD chipset. I'm staying clear of nvidia chipsets period.
Understandable but the pre C2D chipsets by Nvidia worked quite well.

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The nForce 4 was a good chipset, but I don't know about the nforce 5 as I never owned an AM2 CPU.



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I saw that too and it is a good deal for the money. too bad the mobo doesn't have an AMD chipset. I'm staying clear of nvidia chipsets period.

It has the 405/6100 chipset! The nVidia 4 chipsets are solid as a rock, so don't let the chipset be the determining factor! I use them when someone wants MSI and they're pretty much bullet proof. Never had one fail yet! I've even been able to overclock one a couple of hundred MHz, with the on-board graphics! You would have to get into more expensive graphics to really overclock it unless you had a spare PCI-E video card hanging around not being used! LOL!!

Best Regards,
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My friend's file server board is a £30 MSI Geforce 6100 chipset mATX board. It's still going strong after 18 months... That's longer than any of my Asus boards lasted.



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It's still going strong after 18 months... That's longer than any of my Asus boards lasted.
Lasted or he kept it longer?:D

I still have the A8N SLI Deluxe and Premium and they both work great after more than two years. Can't actually remember but I feel reasonably certain they are more than 2 years up and running and probably more like 3.


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Lasted. All three of my Asus boards are now dead. The said MSI board is not only still working, still in use. Not used for gaming but it's been left on 24/7 save for occasional system maintenance for almost all of those 18 months. My A8N-SLI SE lasted 5 months, my P5N-E SLI 8 months and my A8R-MVP 16 months.



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Lasted. All three of my Asus boards are now dead.
Man! You're a death sentence to a piece of electronics! LOL I've had two bad boards in the last 13 years and that's a lot of boards. More than I can hope to remember even conservatively. I even built with some PC Chips board back in the 90's and the worked until I finally gave the system away.:P

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I got the message after the P5N-E SLI went south and avoided Asus' midrange stuff. My P35C-DS3R was in my care for 7 months, and has been operating successfully in another PC for 3 months and counting.
My X38-DS4 has also been operating for that length of time, so far without incident. Worthy of note, my MSI board still works after 4 1/2 years, and survived a PSU blowing up!



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my ole asus P4P800 SE is still going strong although it belongs to my brother now. it's got to be close to 4 years old. it only cost $89 and did everything I wanted to do at the time.

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My P35C-DS3R was in my care for 7 months, and has been operating successfully in another PC for 3 months and counting.
My X38-DS4 has also been operating for that length of time, so far without incident.
Let's hold a midnight mass and prey.:P

BTW, one of the two only boards that I've ever had go south was a Gigabyte GA-P965-DS3 which arrived DOA and was RMA'd the very same day. In less than a week I had a replacement that's still working like a champ to this day, and still running the E6600.

This is no reflection on Gigabyte it was just one bad board.

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Despite those three short-lived boards, I've yet to have a DOA motherboard...



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my ole asus P4P800 SE is still going strong although it belongs to my brother now.
My P4800 SE is seating a Northwood and still running strong for my wife.

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