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Despite those three short-lived boards, I've yet to have a DOA motherboard
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the golden P965 DS3. that has to be one of the best boards i have seen.



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I think we can all agree the P4P800 SE and 965P-DS3 are in the 'legendary boards' category. I daresay the A8N-SLI Premium and P35-DS3R are in that category too.



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tbh i dont think there were any legendary P35 boards, all of the mid to high were birllaint. well infact for GB from the P35-DS3L to the DS4 were brilliant, so that would be every one they made i cant remember if they did a DS5 and DQ6. for ASUS it was onyl the P5K-E and upwards.

the abit PRO was probably the best P35, if i had to chose though. and for the price the DFI blood iron.



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I think we can all agree the P4P800 SE and 965P-DS3 are in the 'legendary boards' category. I daresay the A8N-SLI Premium and P35-DS3R are in that category too.
Very true!

My A8N SLI Deluxe was easier to mod and in the end pushed my Opteron 170 almost 200 MHz farther than my wimpy arsed 175 did on the premium. The only real difference between the two boards was that the Premium was one of the first with Passive chipset cooling. It was nothing to remove the inferior coolers that came with the Deluxe and upgrade them. I wished Asus would give the option of no passive cooling because in a high overclock they often get in the way.


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my ole asus P4P800 SE is still going strong although it belongs to my brother now.
My P4800 SE is seating a Northwood and still running strong for my wife.
as is mine (my brothers now). a P4 northwood 3.4ghz @ 3.6ghz to be exact. it still kills me to think I paid $265 for that cpu. lol

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A little more modern, but I paid the equivalent of $450 for my 4200+...



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it still kills me to think I paid $265 for that cpu. lol
I haven't got a clue as to what I paid for mine, because it all seems so long ago. I suppose if I went through my zipzoomfly (used to be Google something) records I suppose I could find out. Since it was the first 2.8 GHz release which and predated Hyper threading I would say it goes a bit further back in time and just as expensive.

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don't feel bad Soph. I had to go dig up the invoice (from starmicro) too. I've got invoices running out my yang. I even keep them for items as insignificant as case fans and even a miniature pizzo case speaker I ordered since my CM 830 EVO case didn't come with one.

the bad part is the only reason I bought the P4 3.4 800mhz HT was to replace a prescott P4 2.8 533mhz non HT which would OC a lot better and nearly as high as the 3.4 northwood.

just for fun I looked up what that 3.4 goes for now at starmicro. it's still $160.50 lol

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AHHHH, my Tuniq Tower is crooked. Will this be a problem?
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How so. Can you give us a picture or describe it?



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AHHHH, my Tuniq Tower is crooked. Will this be a problem?
Only if it affects the contact between the heat spreader and heat sink and if the fan can't blow over the radiator effectively. People bend and mod fans all the time when possible to make them fit.

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It's like this. When you put it on a flat surface one heatpipe is bent.

It's alright I guess.
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shaffaaf,
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tbh i dont think there were any legendary P35 boards, all of the mid to high were brilliant. well in fact for GB from the P35-DS3L to the DS4 were brilliant, so that would be every one they made i cant remember if they did a DS5 and DQ6.

The DS3L, by virtue of it's sales and performance for the dollar and the DS3R for having enough bells and whistles to be taken seriously by enthusiasts. The GA-965P-DS3 put GigaByte on the map as a serious contender, and the DS3L and the DS3R kept them there!

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That's probably one of the most accurate sentences I've read for quite some time. Couldn't have put it better myself.

Abuzar: It doesn't sound too serious. Fire it up and have a look at the temps!



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It's like this. When you put it on a flat surface one heatpipe is bent.

It's alright I guess.
Make a judgment call and return it if you feel uncomfortable with it. The main thing is doesn't it get in the way and it does what it's supposed to do, but that being said you also♠ not be nagged by what ifs'.


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Originally posted by theonejrs:
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tbh i dont think there were any legendary P35 boards, all of the mid to high were brilliant. well in fact for GB from the P35-DS3L to the DS4 were brilliant, so that would be every one they made i cant remember if they did a DS5 and DQ6.

The DS3L, by virtue of it's sales and performance for the dollar and the DS3R for having enough bells and whistles to be taken seriously by enthusiasts. The GA-965P-DS3 put GigaByte on the map as a serious contender, and the DS3L and the DS3R kept them there!

Best Regards,
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id have to agree with that.

wonder how their P45s will be, as from my knowlege, DFI and asus were the main sellers for the X38/48



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shaffaaf,
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wonder how their P45s will be, as from my knowlege, DFI and asus were the main sellers for the X38/48

Both the X38 and X48-DS4s were good performers! So far no bad reports on the GB P-45s at all. I haven't found any Tom's or Anandtech reviews or tests yet, but they'll be along! LOL!! I'm sure we'll get a proper P-45 MB Shoot out before long, with all the MB manufacturer's represented!

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As an X38-DS4 owner, I'm delighted with it. Cool running chipset, monstrously powerful PCI express bus, rock solid stable, ample USB, Firewire ports etc. Can get a bit cramped when using crossfire, but what board doesn't?
My only criticism is the sideways IDE port. That's a pain when you use a midi tower case with a non-removable bay rack.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduc...tm_medium=email

There's a Rampage Extreme now? What have they added?



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yeah, i know they were good :D

and yeah, not seeing much for the P45s, where as everyone has done all the ASUS's already, so its unfair to judge yet. we need a shootout :)


as for the rampage extreme, its DDR3 and OCs as good at the P45s.

i havent read alot, but i willl do and report tomorow :)

plus is looks sxy haha



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Looks expensive.. You could buy two X38-DS4s for that...



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16 phase design.

watercooling for NB

tubing, cliping etc etc (for water cooling)

lcd post

extensive bundle

you can sign the mobo (THATS THE KILLER FEATURE HAHAHA)

x-fi sound card (i pronounce this as X F I, not X fi) with support up to EAX 4.0 (no 5.0 but its FAR better than onboard)


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The Maximus II Formula gave us some cool-looking new 'Start' and 'Reset' buttons, but the Rampage Extreme adds to this by providing a new set of toggle and confirmation buttons coupled with a selection toggle switch. "What for?", I hear you ask. To put it simply, these controls allow you to interface with the BIOS directly via the Rampage Extreme's LCD poster, so that you can either monitor the hardware or, even more impressively, alter BIOS settings on the fly, making for an ideal way to tweak your overclocking attempts in real-time as necessary to get the best out of your system. It might not be something you use every day, but it's yet another fantastic little innovation from ASUS that can only be applauded.
multiple heatsinks for mofsets and NB supplied for hight differences and water cooling


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It seems like every time we have a Republic of Gamers motherboard land in our review dungeon, we end up lavishing praise upon it, and to be honest it's always hard to find anything to criticise about these parts. Hardware aimed at enthusiasts is ten a penny these days, but ASUS' motherboard offerings along these lines always seem to get it right by choosing the right features to offer up without piling on unnecessary items just to add to the list of marketing checkpoints, while also creating a sensible board layout that is rarely physically restrictive in any way. Each new Republic of Gamers part also manages to trump the last by adding something new and innovative, and this time around we find ourselves with both some supplied alternate chipset coolers and the ability to control BIOS settings via the provided LCD poster - Both excellent ideas to my mind, and again in keeping with the enthusiast-level, overclocker-centric focus of the part.

Speaking of overclocking, you'll be hard-pressed to find an Intel motherboard with more overclocking headroom than this, as the Rampage Extreme offers an absolute cornucopia of voltage and tweaking options, coupled with the hardware and cooling capabilities to match whether your aim is to use water or air cooling.

Of course, the one big issue which is always going to be a factor with such high-end motherboards is the price, and make no mistake about it - At around £270 including VAT in the UK, the Rampage Extreme is hugely expensive. I certainly wouldn't want to say that you don't get what you pay for on this occasion, as you get plenty for your money, but with Intel's Nehalem round the corner facilitating a change of motherboard due to its upgraded CPU socket, we're beginning to enter a period where enthusiasts may want to hang tight and see what this new architecture brings us in a few months time.

Having said that, if you are content to stick with Intel's current CPU line-up and are a hardcore overclocker for whom money is no object, then I simply can't think of a better motherboard to ply your trade on than the Rampage Extreme. Quite simply, it oozes class from every transistor, with some of those clever little additions (tweaking the BIOS from the LCD poster in particular) making life easier in many little ways so that you can concentrate on the serious business of pulling every last iota of performance out of your system. I'd love to imagine a world where this kind of motherboard was affordable to all and sundry, but realistically that's not going to happen, so all I can say is that, as of right now, this is pretty much the best Intel motherboard money can buy.
im pissed off that they didnt overclock..... :(



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The P5Q Deluxe has a 16 phase design and I built my own water cooling. :P

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does it have hardware OCing on the fly AND A PLACE TO WRITE YOUR SIGNATURE....THOUGHT NOT!!!

HAHAH

i joke.


IMO its not worth it, just like the blackops, but for the exreeeeeme e-peen 3dmarker it seems perfect :)

http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/604467/as...e-extreme.html#

they took it to 710 on the FBs, which is under the biostars 724 IICR BUT it is X48 so that makes it very impressive, the biostar was P45.

either way, its not worth it for everday clocks, because i am sure the P5E3 will be mroe than enough for non benching OCing.



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By the time I remove all the features most high end board that I don't use I am about right where I am now. I'm not going to make any more purchases until I see what Nehalem has to offer. I do a lot of video compression and for now what I have has been good but ripping and compressing a 30 Gigabyte Blu-Ray movie with H.264 encoding has changed all that. I remember back when I was converting movies to SVCD and Mpeg 4 and how it took as much as 7 hours and then faster computers came along and DVD compression which reduced the time to less than an hour for encoding and less than 12 minutes for transcoding. Now here I am again looking at more than 7 hours with all this power. It never ends!

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