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**Read First** Dvd Burners.. What to look for?! **
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Frankwm
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30. December 2007 @ 01:44 |
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I read on another thread (I totally forget where) that some guy who is fairly knowledgeable with hardware, opens the cd/dvd burner case & checks that all the screws & nuts are properly tightened. With shipping across oceans, etc., some of them can loosen up. If your burner is out of warranty, you might try that before buying a new burner.
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ben7337
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30. December 2007 @ 12:15 |
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but the drive only cost like $30, why pay $30 to ship ti overseas for repairs? Besides, I don't know how long the pioneer warranty is but I would like to assume it is a 1 yr limited warranty, and I doubt I am applicable but it seems there is an issue with a few of their burners including the 112D that cause it to not work in certain conditions and the site says they will send a replacement or newer model free of charge if that is your issue, but they don't even ask about the conditions that the drive endured when in use, so I don't know if I want to try that as I doubt my house meets and rare extreme conditions that the drive should be able to withstand.
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30. December 2007 @ 12:39 |
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@ben7337
Update the firmware to 1.24 if you haven't already.
What media are you using? Might be why. Now the reading part where the drive was having trouble - may just be the disc itself - there may be a problem w/ it.
The Pioneer could be going - nothings ever 100%. I have found the Pioneer to be a good drive along w/ the LiteOn. I would recommend both.
2 of my 4+ years old drives are a LiteOn and Pioneer - still kicking :)
I would go w/ Sata if you have the ports - It's what I'm moving too. I think they have faster access times plus they don't have those bulky cables.
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ben7337
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30. December 2007 @ 13:06 |
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yeah I am thinking of getting a Pioneer 215D when they come out in the USA, I remember I went with the 112D as opposed to 212D both because the computer it was originally put in had no sata ports and because I heard that ATA/IDE was better and that SATA disk drives went horribly slowly, though I don't hear anyone saying that now.
I am not sure what was up with my drive, as I said yesterday I did update to 1.24 firmware. the media that has been making noises was Memorex 16x DRD-R's burned at 4x I think, maxell dvd-rw's burned at 2x, and the disks I recently burned verbatim printable dvd+r's. However I found that the printable discs don't have any waterproofing and any water on them will make the ink run so I am planning on getting Taiyo Yuden dvd-r's with watershield and since someone said pioneer is better with dvd-r as opposed to +r I guess that is kind of a good thing even if it does have older correction on the disc.
Recently burning a few discs today, on my second one, heard some slightly quieter noises but they sounded okay, much more the way a hard drive normally can ahve slightly quiet accessing noises and they seemed normal to me. In burning discs the accessing light is holding constant and so far 1 disc came out good and this other one will be done in a few minutes hopefully also good (I am burning as 4x). I have yet to try asking it to access data on a disc to see how things go there as that is where most of the noise seemed to lie though. Since I only have one drive it can't hurt to get a second one.
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30. December 2007 @ 13:20 |
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I'd bump up the burn speed to 8x on the 16x speed media. Not all the newer 16x media will do well at the lowers speeds - 4x and under.
The firmware sounds like it did make a diff. When a drive has a harder time reading the disc because it's not supported by the firmware then my experience has been it's a little noisier.
Buy yeah since you only have the 1 I would definitely pick up a 2nd. The more the merrier imho :) Plus the prices are so cheap now for a good drive.
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ben7337
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1. January 2008 @ 15:09 |
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alright. I was just copying some data from a disc I had burned recently. It went at 5 mBps max and there was a good while where it was going at 500kBps-1mBps. It was very sad.
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1. January 2008 @ 16:44 |
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That could also be due to the discs you were using - if they were poor quality the drive may have a hard time trying to read it.
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ben7337
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2. January 2008 @ 21:54 |
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well it started making some lovely very loud noises and had some real issues installing software from a disc that came with my printer as the disc is needed to install a piece of software that I wanted.
It seems the 215D isn't coming out for a while. what would people here recommend as a specific drive? It can use either sata or ide, doesn't need to burn over 8x and i don't think any new drive go below 12x anyway, and it just needs to be known as a good drive that will last. are there any good new nec drives? I know that my parents 4 yr old computer, well 4 and a half almost has a nec 1100a or something that still works just fine and nec seems to be known for good drive, I always see people talking about their "old 3500a" or something like that.
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2. January 2008 @ 22:05 |
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I recently purchased a Samsung SH-S203B (SATA) drive. I got it simply because I had never owned a Samsung drive before. This thing burns really well and is one of the quietest drives I've ever owned. About the only fault I can find is that I cannot do Disc Quality scans using Nero CD-DVD Speed with it.
The burn quality is very good, however, rivaling my Plextor. Fortunately, I still have 4 BenQ drives as I still haven't found their equal.
The search continues . . .
V.....
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2. January 2008 @ 22:51 |
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I haven't heard much about the NEC - they are probably still good drives.
Here's a site you can check to see if there are any reviews - videohelp.
Check out the one catfreak recommended. I'd also recommend the LiteOn's too.
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ben7337
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2. January 2008 @ 23:41 |
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catfreak the samsung sounds nice, however I wonder which program you use to verify that the data burned properly then? I never used to check on my dvd drive but now that it is dying I feel it is necessary and am realizing that the extra 3 minutes or so to verify data is probably worth it. Are there simple programs to verify that a disc burned properly?
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3. January 2008 @ 01:58 |
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There are a number of ways . . if I really want a quality test, I use one of my other burners. If you just want to verify, the samsung will do a Nero surface test or you can use VSO Inspector and do a file test and a surface test. Or, if you use ImgBurn, you can verufy your burn.
As far as I can tell, the Samsung works with all tests except the Nero Quality Test . . .
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3. February 2008 @ 05:36 |
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Hi Guys - great thread Ripper.
I have two Optiarc 5170A DVD Rewriters and they work great at burning single layer Verbatim-r discs at basically any speed (even 18x, although I normally use 8x)have only had a couple of fails in 2 years and those were due to the computer rather than the drive, however I have yet to successfully burn a double layer disc of either the plus or minus variety.
I have tried 3 or 4 different brands of double layer discs and some fail almost instantly and some even get to about 5% completed before failing.
What Im wondering is if anyone else has this drive and has successfully managed to burn to DL discs and if so which brand they used.
Or can anyone recommend a good SATA or IDE internal drive to use for DL burning.
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3. February 2008 @ 06:14 |
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Originally posted by Pepp77:
Hi Guys - great thread Ripper.
I have two Optiarc 5170A DVD Rewriters and they work great at burning single layer Verbatim-r discs at basically any speed (even 18x, although I normally use 8x)have only had a couple of fails in 2 years and those were due to the computer rather than the drive, however I have yet to successfully burn a double layer disc of either the plus or minus variety.
I have tried 3 or 4 different brands of double layer discs and some fail almost instantly and some even get to about 5% completed before failing.
What Im wondering is if anyone else has this drive and has successfully managed to burn to DL discs and if so which brand they used.
Or can anyone recommend a good SATA or IDE internal drive to use for DL burning.
Thanks :-)
Firstly, I'm not sure on the specs of your burner but it might be that it just does not support DL burning. However, if you have not already done so, update your firmware to the latest, 1.13.
If that fails, then, for instance, a burner like this would be a cheap, decent choice. Have a look at newegg.com for Pioneer/LiteOn drives - as far as they go, most of their new ones good, as far as I'm aware.
Edit: According to this page your burner should support DL writing. Update your firmware and give it another go. If that fails, tell me:
What speed are you trying to write at?
What media have you tried/are using?
What program are you using to burn DL discs?
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cybrspwn
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7. February 2008 @ 02:04 |
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215d (sata) has been out for a lil while here in australia and my uncle has the 115d (ide). notice how pioneer use 1xx as ide and 2xx as sata for there burner names like 112d (ide), 212d (sata),115d (ide), 215d(sata) see my point.
dont know where u live but i think it should be out where u r and you could get the 112d or 212d wich came out before the 115d and 215d
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bratcher
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14. February 2008 @ 20:38 |
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Originally posted by catfreak:
I recently purchased a Samsung SH-S203B (SATA) drive. I got it simply because I had never owned a Samsung drive before. This thing burns really well and is one of the quietest drives I've ever owned. About the only fault I can find is that I cannot do Disc Quality scans using Nero CD-DVD Speed with it.
The burn quality is very good, however, rivaling my Plextor. Fortunately, I still have 4 BenQ drives as I still haven't found their equal.
The search continues . . .
V.....
I've got a Samsung SH-S183L (IDE) that burns just as good as my Plextor 716-A and is a quieter drive to boot. I think I made the right burner choice. I just hope it lasts as long as my Plextor did...
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Erfan223
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17. March 2008 @ 15:25 |
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I went to www.amazon.com to look for Dvd Drives and found the Lite-On 20x Super All Write LightScribe Internal DVD/Dual Layer RW Drive (LH20A1L06)...Should I get this.I read what you said and it's a SATA drive as well.I also noticed that this drive is compatible with all types of Cd's.So I was wanting to know if any of you guys have had experience with this and can tell me that its reliable.
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anime_99
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2. April 2008 @ 02:24 |
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I have a PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A burner. I want to burn CD-Rs under 12x speed but my burner won't let me do that because that is the minimum speed it will burn at and cannot go any lower than that. Also I found out that my Plextor burner can only burn 12x speed for CD-Rs minimum at some website.
So my question is do I need to get a new DVD burner that burns CD-Rs lower than 12x speed? More specifically a burner that can burn CD-Rs at 4x to 1x. Are there any DVD burners like that? I doubt this has anything to do with the speed restriction but could it be the CD-Rs themselves have minimum speed restrictions?
I did research on DVD burners but they never put minimum speeds, always maximum speeds.
If anybody has any idea, please let me know. Thanks in advance.
If this the wrong place to post my question, I'm really sorry if I posted in the wrong section.
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bratcher
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2. April 2008 @ 11:15 |
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Originally posted by anime_99:
I have a PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A burner. I want to burn CD-Rs under 12x speed but my burner won't let me do that because that is the minimum speed it will burn at and cannot go any lower than that. Also I found out that my Plextor burner can only burn 12x speed for CD-Rs minimum at some website.
So my question is do I need to get a new DVD burner that burns CD-Rs lower than 12x speed? More specifically a burner that can burn CD-Rs at 4x to 1x. Are there any DVD burners like that? I doubt this has anything to do with the speed restriction but could it be the CD-Rs themselves have minimum speed restrictions?
I did research on DVD burners but they never put minimum speeds, always maximum speeds.
Why do you want to burn CDR's at 1 to 4x? Media today does not burn well at speeds that low. Usually I burn CD's in my DVD burner at 24x & they play back (as audiodiscs) in anything I put them in. The lowest my burner will go for CD's is 8x and the burned discs are still playable in my experience.
If anybody has any idea, please let me know. Thanks in advance.
If this the wrong place to post my question, I'm really sorry if I posted in the wrong section.
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varnull
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2. April 2008 @ 12:29 |
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I have a cd burner which goes down to 4X.. a HP MTCR-4804TE
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bratcher
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2. April 2008 @ 14:25 |
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Originally posted by varnull:
I have a cd burner which goes down to 4X.. a HP MTCR-4804TE
My first CD burner was 4x & took 20 minutes to burn a full disc!! Since then I prefer to burn CD's around 24 to 32x.
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anime_99
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2. April 2008 @ 23:16 |
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Originally posted by bratcher:
Originally posted by anime_99:
I have a PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A burner. I want to burn CD-Rs under 12x speed but my burner won't let me do that because that is the minimum speed it will burn at and cannot go any lower than that. Also I found out that my Plextor burner can only burn 12x speed for CD-Rs minimum at some website.
So my question is do I need to get a new DVD burner that burns CD-Rs lower than 12x speed? More specifically a burner that can burn CD-Rs at 4x to 1x. Are there any DVD burners like that? I doubt this has anything to do with the speed restriction but could it be the CD-Rs themselves have minimum speed restrictions?
I did research on DVD burners but they never put minimum speeds, always maximum speeds.
Why do you want to burn CDR's at 1 to 4x? Media today does not burn well at speeds that low. Usually I burn CD's in my DVD burner at 24x & they play back (as audiodiscs) in anything I put them in. The lowest my burner will go for CD's is 8x and the burned discs are still playable in my experience.
If anybody has any idea, please let me know. Thanks in advance.
If this the wrong place to post my question, I'm really sorry if I posted in the wrong section.
The reason I need a DVD burner that burns CD-Rs at low speed because my console games for example Playstation requires to burn at low speeds, 4x or lower. They won't work if its not low speed. If there are any good DVD-burners that burn CD-Rs at 4x or lower please let me know. I would like to buy a new one.
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Trane1
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19. September 2008 @ 21:24 |
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Originally posted by anime_99:
I have a PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A burner. I want to burn CD-Rs under 12x speed but my burner won't let me do that because that is the minimum speed it will burn at and cannot go any lower than that. Also I found out that my Plextor burner can only burn 12x speed for CD-Rs minimum at some website.
So my question is do I need to get a new DVD burner that burns CD-Rs lower than 12x speed? More specifically a burner that can burn CD-Rs at 4x to 1x. Are there any DVD burners like that? I doubt this has anything to do with the speed restriction but could it be the CD-Rs themselves have minimum speed restrictions?
I did research on DVD burners but they never put minimum speeds, always maximum speeds.
If anybody has any idea, please let me know. Thanks in advance.
If this the wrong place to post my question, I'm really sorry if I posted in the wrong section.
This is an excellent question that I would also like to know the answer to. I already have CD-Burners that burn at 4x but would like to know if there are DVD-Burners that burn at the same rate or even lower. I like to rip my CD collection to lossless WAV or FLAC files and burn a disc. But the faster you burn audio, the lower the quality. If possible I would like to burn my disc at 1x, I couldn't care less about the time it takes.
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varnull
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20. September 2008 @ 02:26 |
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Theres probably a good manufacturing reason why dvd burners only go so slow on cd's..
personally I don't think dvd burners do a very good job burning cd's.. which is why I have a few cd only burners hanging around.
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zonedout
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20. September 2008 @ 23:19 |
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I dont care what technology is in a dvd burner or which kind of media it can burn on I just want my CD/DVD burner to be robust and not quit working after just a few months like every other piece of crap cd/dvd burner I have owned (7 to date) and all of them quit after harldly any use other than reading some software installation disks, watching half a dozen movies and burning maybe ten discs at most.
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