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12. February 2010 @ 10:11 |
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Mushkin RAM is hella expensive yes. My 2 x 1GB CL4-4-3-10 kit was over $200 at the time. My 2 x 2GB kit I was lucky to get cheap at $110.
RAM prices dropped to rock bottom for a few months last year. You could get a reasonable spec 2 x 2GB kit for $35 not even kidding. Several of my friends upgraded then.
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12. February 2010 @ 10:17 |
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12. February 2010 @ 10:18 |
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I would. That is some sexy RAM ;P
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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12. February 2010 @ 10:55 |
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BukyOHare: Hi and welcome. You are fortunate that a multimedia PC does not require particularly powerful parts as it is gaming and video encoding that really requires processing power. You can get away with a cheap dual core and basic graphics card for HD video with the advent of GPU video decoding.
Bluray drives aren't that expensive, and DVD drives are very cheap. As for the number of hard disks, you can never have too many :P It really comes down to how much you think you will need or can afford. Most large cases can fit a lot of hard drives.
For sound, the onboard sound built into a motherboard can produce 7.1 audio with good quality. This is something else that is only an issue if doing professional work or playing games.
4GB of RAM is the typical standard for any powerful PC. It does not cost a fortune, for the uses you describe, 4GB is ample.
The video outputs you describe are standard on modern graphics cards. If you want more than three outputs you may have to buy a more expensive graphics card, but it is doable. Cards such as the HD5750 have four outputs.
The motherboards I specify for mid to high-end PCs have two USB3 ports fitted as standard, as well as S-ATA3, so that's no real issue.
For wireless networking, you will need to buy a wireless card, as that does not come as standard. The same goes for bluetooth, you can use it but wil need to buy a USB dongle for it.
Russ: It's an evil marketing scheme I agree, but it's nowhere near as bad as other examples. AMD CPUs themselves aren't crippled, they just aren't able to run programs written using a rival's compiler as fast as said rival's own CPUs. Let's be honest, if AMD want the best performance, they should make their own compiler!
This is all made to sound like it's suddenly appeared out of the blue and nobody knew about it before, I've known it for ages... Just remember, Intel aren't stopping AMD CPUs from running certain programs full stop, like a certain company in the PC sector does.
Rob: I've seen a 4.4Ghz Q9550 outperform mine, so I think SuperPi really cares about it being Intel, and being a high clock speed, not which Intel you have. My i5 stomps the Q9550 in 3dmark, but in SuperPi is relatively unaffected. Still faster, but I never got my Q9550 to 4.12Ghz :D
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12. February 2010 @ 11:11 |
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Sam what mobo did you have your 9550 on the X48? takeing mine from the DS3R to the new UD3P the mobo makes a big difference.
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12. February 2010 @ 11:17 |
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X48-DS4. Needed a lot of volts to get the FSB up. 3.8 was about as high as I could get on 1.55V. Going any higher caused the PCIe bus to shut down since there were two cards fitted.
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12. February 2010 @ 11:24 |
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BukyOHare: everybody here will help you big time with your build, I read you want to burn a lot of BR disc's, I would read up some more on burning the BR's as a lot of reports are coming in about thier lasting unregularly, there is a blnak media thread on AD that explaines a lot about the blank BR disc's, people are having trouble no matter what brand.
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12. February 2010 @ 11:25 |
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I got the idea the drive would be used more for reading than burning discs, but yeah it's worth noting that bluray recording isn't really an exact science yet.
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12. February 2010 @ 11:28 |
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yes the actual burning of the BR media isnt perfected as of yet, but RIPPING a BR disc and then working it over and burning to a DVD5/DVD9 disc is a good thing to be doing.
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12. February 2010 @ 11:29 |
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Or keeping it on a hard disk instead :P
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12. February 2010 @ 11:35 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I got the idea the drive would be used more for reading than burning discs, but yeah it's worth noting that bluray recording isn't really an exact science yet.
I don't know Sammy... he did mention getting a DVD-ROM drive...
If it was me BuckyO... I'd look at a BlueRay Reader, something like the Liteon iHOS104 for about $60 and an ODD similar to the Sony AD-7240 for about $28 and not look back. :) Of course use the BR ODD for reading BR discs and the Sony for burning and such... I would even consider a DVD-ROM drive for reading "regular" DVD's as well... (maybe one of these DVD-ROM's) that way you don't prematurely end the lives of you ODD's. ;)
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12. February 2010 @ 12:09 |
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and the driveman(not greensman change the name now!!!)come through again.
i think im gonna do that very thing get a BR reader instead.of course after i get the 4gb of mem..lol
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12. February 2010 @ 12:55 |
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So when you buy intel, you're buying their compiler. How nice...
Rob, I Haven't seen intel hit 9.5seconds... that would be double... you compared to an athlon propus if i'm not mistaken. My Phenom II has hit 19+ seconds. Estuansis has beat that :)
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12. February 2010 @ 13:09 |
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More accurately, if you buy an Intel CPU, you can run programs designed for Intels faster than on an equivalent AMD. Likewise, if you buy an nvidia graphics card, you can run games designed for Geforces faster than on an equivalent ATI, same thing. However, for the graphics situation it's worse, as with an AMD CPU, you can still do everything you can with an Intel CPU, just slower in this example. With nvidia vs ATI there are certain features that are completely disabled unless you're using a Geforce card. This isn't just limited to proprietary technologies, but also game-specific Anti-Aliasing. We're not talking driver bugs or incompatibilities here, just a simple "if graphics processor = ATI, Anti-Aliasing = disabled" line of code. Remove it, and all works fine. Intel are pretty mean, but I don't consider them the worst at those sort of practices, nvidia have beaten them to that post.
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12. February 2010 @ 13:14 |
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Touche LOL! Its a shame companies like intel/amd nvidia/ati can't merge. Could you imagine how much better off we'd be :) Coding would be better, there would be no rivalry. I suppose friendly competition does effect both the market, as well as innovation.
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12. February 2010 @ 13:15 |
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Um, no it really wouldn't be better :P
With no competition, no more CPUs would ever get developed, and prices would increase massively. You'd paying $500 for a Core i5 for the rest of your life, can you imagine that?
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12. February 2010 @ 13:20 |
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I imagine it would be much like Ram/Gasoline...
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12. February 2010 @ 16:37 |
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What do you guys think of this review, Bull or not?
Crucial RealSSD. Real impressive.
Don't take our word for it: check out these early reviews of the Crucial RealSSD C300 products, and show that your customers can get all the benefits of an SSD at a surprisingly affordable price.
From TweakTown, reviewer Chris Ramseyer was very impressed with the offering. He writes:
"At this point in time there is no other drive, platter or solid state that is in the same league as the Crucial RealSSD C300. This is the drive enthusiasts have been begging for, mainstream users will hear the buzz about and anyone who requires high speed storage devices will be pre-ordering. The best thing is that we can actually afford the RealSSD C300!"
Tweaktown editors gave the RealSSD C300 an enviable 93% rating and a Tweak Town "Must Have It" Editor's Choice Award.
Likewise, Olin Coles of Benchmark Review heaped the praise on the Crucial RealSSD C300. He writes: "Micron deserves credit for bringing SATA-6Gbps support to Solid State Drive products. The Crucial RealSSD-C300 is the first to offer ONFI 2.1 synchronous NAND flash, and makes good on delivering 355/215 Mbps bandwidth performance. ?. Based on the performance tests, Crucial's RealSSD C300 series is going to set the bar for Solid State Drive performance in 2010."
And with that, the Crucial RealSSD-C300 earned the Benchmark Reviews Golden Tachometer Award.
Tarinder Sandhu of Hexus was impressed with the speed and performance of the RealSSD C300 as well. He says: "The RealSSD C300 is the fastest solid-state drive that we've come across, and we'll be conducting an in-depth test shortly."
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12. February 2010 @ 16:43 |
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Sounds like the review I've been waiting for LOL! Just where did you find this review. Linky please...
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12. February 2010 @ 16:49 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
Good LAWDY Robert.. don't get him started!!!! ROFL (Russ that is)
GM,
There's nothing to get started. Until Intel fixes the compiler codes they rigged to cut the real performance of the AMDs, any benchmarks will be redundant! I always felt that there was something wrong with the benchmarks when it came to AMD. I replaced an E6750, which was an excellent chip with an AMD 7750 dual core, and the benchmarks were poor compared to Intel, yet all the programs I use ran better and faster on the AMD, so I always felt there was something terribly wrong. To discover that Intel deliberately crippled AMD's performance for their own benefit, didn't surprise me at all.
I can tell you this! I'll never buy another Intel as long as I live. I don't do business with companies that cheat and lie like that! I imagine Intel is going to be very embarrassed when we finally get to see what the real benchmarks and performance look like for AMD CPUs. From what I can tell, it depends on what AMD chip is used, as to how much the performance is crippled. The best CPUs are obviously crippled the most. I would assume that Oman7's Phenom II 965BE, since it's the top of the line, would be hurt the most. I imagine that Oman7 is drooling over the prospect of a 47.4% performance increase, when Intel get's off it's dead ass and fixes the problem. It's not just benchmarks either. The compiler code causing the problem affects the performance of many other programs as well. There's a great deal of difference between Intel optimizing the code for Intel performance, and Intel deliberately crippling programs to run much slower on an AMD, through the use of illegal compiler codes specifically written to do deliberate harm to AMD, Cyrix and Via. Parity is going to be an ugly pill to swallow for the Intel fans! :)
I don't see AMD raising the prices at all, as it would be foolish on their part. They are making money, so why risk losing any business, especially when some of the AMDs should be able to flatten higher priced CPUs from Intel on a level playing field! The new GM chips overclock to 4.0GHz, without breaking a sweat. The Intel's may overclock a little higher, but who knows whether they can overclock enough to overcome the 47.4% performance advantage the AMD will have, with all things equal! It's no wonder that Intel settled this lawsuit so quickly with AMD!
Russ
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12. February 2010 @ 16:53 |
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omeg, sorry buddy, damit I wish I had kept it, it came by e-mail from crucial, I deleted it to soon, sorry, I also checked thier web-site and nothing on it which was strange.
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12. February 2010 @ 17:00 |
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Oh yes russ, I'm drooling LOL! I'm drooling at the upgrade alone! :D
Thats ok Fred. If you're running firefox, you might try seeing if you still have it saved via cookie. Just simply typing a word, may help you find it. E.g. when I run video capture searches, I would type that first, then go from there.
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12. February 2010 @ 17:22 |
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GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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12. February 2010 @ 17:26 |
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nope, tried that also omeg, I think it's because it was an e-mail not a website that I can't relocate it anymore. Nobody ever askes me for anything on this thread and the one time I could have suppled some help I blew it. ):
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12. February 2010 @ 17:29 |
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LOL, leave it ti Russ to save my ass, those links have way more info than the e-mail I got.
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