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26. August 2008 @ 15:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol. Kind of puts my upgrade plan into perspective...



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27. August 2008 @ 02:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by TheftAuto:
Well ZoSoIV, you are running an old video card...older than the 8800 series, Your RAM is shit too.

well this old video-card runs all the games i play fine (Call Of Duty 4,Battlefield 2 and Ghost Recon)I don't game all that much, so i really see no need to get a new one until i have to. and as far as the Ram I'm running its pretty good stuff. most of us run the Corsair so thats an insult to everyone in here. BTW I would put my PC up against yours any-day!! Maybe you should do the right thing and edit your post!




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27. August 2008 @ 04:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol! I've just seen what RAM you use Zoso, I'd probably vote that the best RAM of the lot! What a nub...



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27. August 2008 @ 06:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my ram is running much better :P

Geil Black dragons at 2.1Vs runnign at 1130 555 15, rated to run 1066 555 15 at 2.2
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27. August 2008 @ 06:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A rather interesting question to ask, does anyone know if Thermalright's stock thermal compound is any good? Turns out all three of my tubes of Arctic silver V have gone missing.
No matter, as the CPU still hasn't turned up yet - worse, the £22 charge for shipping was correct, I just didn't read the TnCs. No more shopping at Aria after 4pm after that...



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28. August 2008 @ 08:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Zalman's Super Thermal Grease and Arctic Silver are all I'll use. Both will lower temps below most other thermal compounds used (Super Grease is easiest to apply). Last I knew, Thermalright was among the "other" compounds.


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28. August 2008 @ 08:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not using it again for the simple reason that nothing comes out the tube until you push hard - then guess what happens...
I spent quite a while cleaning it out one of my PCIe 1x slots...



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28. August 2008 @ 10:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by TheftAuto:
Or you could have it hooked up to a 600W RMS amplifier.

Well ZoSoIV, you are running an old video card...older than the 8800 series, also none of components are OC'd. Your RAM is crap too.

My RAM requires 1.7 Volts to run at 1600MHz, but I have at 1.9.

You also definitely missed out on the 1200W PSU discussion.


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28. August 2008 @ 10:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
But his Ram is NOT crap. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if his computer was faster than yours. His Ram is just as good performance wise as yours.

Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
as far as the Ram I'm running its pretty good stuff. most of us run the Corsair so thats an insult to everyone in here. BTW I would put my PC up against yours any-day
1066MHz??? Not that great. Especially for DDR2. That crap is cheap.
Corsair does make some of the best memory, but that doesn't mean everything of theres is elite.

1600Mhz is alot more responses, plus there is another clock...that is besides the fact that his ram requires more voltage. His RAM is not as good performance wise as mine, where do you get that from? His processor is ocd to the same speed as mine, and well...his video card sure doesn't match up.

His computer does not perform as good as mine.

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28. August 2008 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mate, I use 800mhz memory, which is still running at slack timings and underspeed (720mhz) because I've used all-auto settings for my overclock, and my PC still goes like a rocket. For one 1066 RAM isn't bad, and for two, please stop swearing.

You use DDR3 which means you paid too much and got uber-slack memory that performs similarly to older DDR2 let alone newer 1066 stuff, and as for this:
Originally posted by TheftAuto:
His computer does not perform as good as mine.
that's just downright bragging and rude...
Besides, mine has them all beat... :P nah, jk.



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28. August 2008 @ 11:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No it doesn't work like that.

From what I read (and what I know about electronics), DDR2 at 1066 doesn't perform as well as DDR3 at 1066. Besides the fact that mine is at 1600Mhz, it doesn't perform as well. 1066DDR2 is alright, but not for me, especially since 1600Mhz and 2000Mhz DDR2 is fairly cheap in regards to how fast it is, I wouldn't waste my money on "regular" RAM, which is what that is. I thought this was the dream computer thread..guess not. The only reason I came out viciously, was because some nob started insulting me for my PSU, which again, is better than his.


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Q6600 at 3.4GHz
Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz 7-7-7-20-1T
GTX280 710 core clock i think
Dual boot system with:Ubuntu 64-bit,Vista Ultimate 64-bit,
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28. August 2008 @ 11:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As far as I can remember, DDR3 is quad speed rather than dual speed, so to run at the same efficiency as DDR2 it has to be twice as fast, so you effectively have PC6400 CAS7. Of course it's nowhere near as bad as that, but nonetheless I wouldn't necessarily say 1600mhz DDR3 is leaps and bounds ahead of DDR2, not when it's $250 vs the $140 of the same amount of Corsair Dominator 8500.

besides, this is the dream computer thread, not the 'my computer' thread...



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28. August 2008 @ 11:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No it doesn't work like that.

There is 3 clocks, with a 1600Mhz frequency response.
while with DDR2 there is 2 clocks, with a 1066 frequency response.
So for every rising and falling edge of the clock of the DDR, DDR2 has two, and DDR3 has 3. The amount of data you can send through the RAM at a time is amazing in DDR3, speed and cycle aside, it performs better. This is besides the fact that DDR3 uses less voltage and is more stable.

You'll want a DDR3 and DDR3 MB soon enough here.

xfx 790i P08 Bios
Q6600 at 3.4GHz
Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz 7-7-7-20-1T
GTX280 710 core clock i think
Dual boot system with:Ubuntu 64-bit,Vista Ultimate 64-bit,
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28. August 2008 @ 12:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
TheftAuto, they dont MAKE 2000mhz DDR2. Where do you get your info from?

Oh and his computer IS faster than yours convertings videos and stuff. He has a better CPU and motherboard. Not everyone games...
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28. August 2008 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:

Oh and his computer IS faster than yours convertings videos and stuff. He has a better CPU and motherboard. Not everyone games...
He has a better CPU, but his CPU is currently the same speed at 3.4GHz...so its the same.
And the motherboard is debatable. I have better ram, and video card. It isn't better.

For converting videos it is mostly the CPU, but it does involve RAM. The differences in the FSB response between MB is very minor.

xfx 790i P08 Bios
Q6600 at 3.4GHz
Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz 7-7-7-20-1T
GTX280 710 core clock i think
Dual boot system with:Ubuntu 64-bit,Vista Ultimate 64-bit,
Electrical Eng, Gamer, and Heavy PC user.

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28. August 2008 @ 12:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
45nm quad > 65nm quad at the same speed. Granted, they may be a little more finicky, but you can basically get a 9450 to 3.4 stock voltage, I defy anyone to pull that off with a 6600.



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28. August 2008 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If they are both at 3.4Ghz, it doesn't matter. You should know that. The speed is the same. I'm not saying my processor is better, but he could overclock his more.

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Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz 7-7-7-20-1T
GTX280 710 core clock i think
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28. August 2008 @ 12:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you're going to be pedantic about performance, it [b]does/b] matter, because his CPU at 3.4Ghz is faster than your CPU at 3.4Ghz, and by quite a sizeable margin too.



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28. August 2008 @ 13:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
because his CPU at 3.4Ghz is faster than your CPU at 3.4Ghz, and by quite a sizeable margin too.
No it isn't. It doesn't work like that. Please, post links.

The only thing I can see on the web is 6-7%, and that is with different types (xeon/wolfdale) at the same speed.

xfx 790i P08 Bios
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Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz 7-7-7-20-1T
GTX280 710 core clock i think
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Electrical Eng, Gamer, and Heavy PC user.

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28. August 2008 @ 13:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the penryns clock for clock are about 10% faster than the 65nm quads.

and DDR3 is quad pumped, take the OCs, if you put your FBS to 400, you WILL need 1600 if you have a 1:1 (non effective) ratio between ram and FBS using DDR3,

yes it has a higher latency, but then DDR1 had very low latencies of 2, vs the lows of 4 for DDR2, and you really cant get 4 at 1066, it will have to be 5.


look in the end, grandtheft, if you were celver you wouldnt touch DDR3 till nehalem, and even more stupidity was to get a 790i chipset board, instead of an X48, BUT if it works, then what am i to put in my OPINION.


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28. August 2008 @ 13:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
5.5%-7% gains. Fair enough. DDR2 1066 is not better than DDR3 1600 however.

xfx 790i P08 Bios
Q6600 at 3.4GHz
Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz 7-7-7-20-1T
GTX280 710 core clock i think
Dual boot system with:Ubuntu 64-bit,Vista Ultimate 64-bit,
Electrical Eng, Gamer, and Heavy PC user.
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28. August 2008 @ 13:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's not better, but it's not worse. It's different... :)



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28. August 2008 @ 13:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
It's not better, but it's not worse. It's different... :)
It worse performance wise, better price wise.

xfx 790i P08 Bios
Q6600 at 3.4GHz
Patriot Viper DDR3 1600MHz 7-7-7-20-1T
GTX280 710 core clock i think
Dual boot system with:Ubuntu 64-bit,Vista Ultimate 64-bit,
Electrical Eng, Gamer, and Heavy PC user.
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28. August 2008 @ 13:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
the 1600mhz DDR3 scores about 10% lower than 1066mhz DDR2 in PerformanceTest. I therefore deem it worse, performance and cost wise...



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