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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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1. March 2010 @ 09:51 |
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Is now a bad time to say I'm loving the office 2010 Beta?
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1. March 2010 @ 13:14 |
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Now HERE is a freak of a fan!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213006
It's likely the most powerful fan on the egg. Though someone mentioned one more powerful. 4,000 Rpms, 150CFm, 1.5amp(17.4W). Very electric hungry fan! I'd be worried of running it off the mobo. I'd probably run it directly through a fan controller. Though if it were the main CPU cooler, I'd have to shut off all cpu warnings. Thats kind of scary. Although, with the right controller, the controller could warn me if the fan didn't engage ;)
Would any of you enthusiasts ever consider such a freak?
It's been compared to a blow dryer for noise! LOL!
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1. March 2010 @ 13:32 |
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1. March 2010 @ 13:34 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Now HERE is a freak of a fan!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213006
It's likely the most powerful fan on the egg. Though someone mentioned one more powerful. 4,000 Rpms, 150CFm, 1.5amp(17.4W). Very electric hungry fan! I'd be worried of running it off the mobo. I'd probably run it directly through a fan controller. Though if it were the main CPU cooler, I'd have to shut off all cpu warnings. Thats kind of scary. Although, with the right controller, the controller could warn me if the fan didn't engage ;)
Would any of you enthusiasts ever consider such a freak?
It's been compared to a blow dryer for noise! LOL!
Oman7,
You couldn't stay in the house with that much noise all the time. Being in the same room for very long would be out of the question. It would hurt your ears! Mine anyway! LOL!!
Russ
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1. March 2010 @ 13:37 |
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Ahh yah. I've used a similar PCI cooling fan. I believe I've posted it before. It was believed to have little or no effect in a good cooling system. Though it had a VERY extreme effect in a cramped case ;) It did its job well cooling an AGP card in my late HP computer.
Russ, that's why I'd connect it to a controller ;)
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1. March 2010 @ 13:38 |
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As an idea:
Those fans are the dual-rotor extreme edition ones.
Here are two of the slower, quieter, single-rotor fans in use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKF16kQimWs
So then, if the one you posted is louder than that...
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1. March 2010 @ 13:40 |
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Wow sam! The specifications don't prepare you for that LOL!
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1. March 2010 @ 14:40 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Ahh yah. I've used a similar PCI cooling fan. I believe I've posted it before. It was believed to have little or no effect in a good cooling system. Though it had a VERY extreme effect in a cramped case ;) It did its job well cooling an AGP card in my late HP computer.
Russ, that's why I'd connect it to a controller ;)
Oman7,
why would you pay $32 for a fan and then hook it up to a controller to reduce it's airflow and noise, when you could buy any number of fans that move the same amount air as a reduced speed one of those contraptions? At 1000 rpm it will still be quite noisy!
Buy one of these instead for 1/4 the cost, and use a fan controller!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185058
I personally think you would do better with no fan controller and one of these!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185057
That $32 noisy bastard won't even start at a voltage low enough for it to be quiet. It will run, but it ain't gonna start. Not with a 7v minimum voltage. Besides, by the time you get it quiet enough to live with, it won't move as much air as the 40 cfm Scythe at 800 rpm, and it won't be anywhere near as quiet!
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1. March 2010 @ 14:49 |
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As it happens, the minimum voltage of Delta fans is around 2.8-3.2V, you can actually get them running off a pair of AA batteries believe it or not. However, the problem with Delta fans is that due to the way they are designed for absolute speed, their acoustics at low rpms are disgusting compared to normal fans, as is their comparative airflow. Unless you will use the maximum speed of a Delta fan on a semi-regular basis, there is indeed no reason to own one. What's also worth bearing in mind is that the most powerful ones must actually be kept away from EMI-sensitive components such as networking as the fields generated by the extreme power of the fans actually interrupts data flow, causing network dropouts.
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1. March 2010 @ 15:15 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
As it happens, the minimum voltage of Delta fans is around 2.8-3.2V, you can actually get them running off a pair of AA batteries believe it or not. However, the problem with Delta fans is that due to the way they are designed for absolute speed, their acoustics at low rpms are disgusting compared to normal fans, as is their comparative airflow. Unless you will use the maximum speed of a Delta fan on a semi-regular basis, there is indeed no reason to own one. What's also worth bearing in mind is that the most powerful ones must actually be kept away from EMI-sensitive components such as networking as the fields generated by the extreme power of the fans actually interrupts data flow, causing network dropouts.
Sam,
2.8-3.2v you could work with, but with a 7v minimum on the Delta FFB1212EH-F00, it wouldn't stand a prayer at voltages that low. The amp load would be so high, it would probably melt the motor housing before it stopped making noise, permanently! LOL!! Throw in the EMI problem and it's a total waste!
Russ
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1. March 2010 @ 15:25 |
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Almost all fans have an official minimum voltage of 6 or 7. In reality, they'll go a lot lower than that. Also, as an electrical engineer I can't believe what you just wrote.. Rethink that sentence :P
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1. March 2010 @ 16:08 |
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I probably wouldn't buy one really. I was merely impressed by it's capabilities. One reviewer stated that he got his processor to 4.8Ghz on two of those fans. If I had the computer behind a closed door or something, that would be ok, but otherwise you're correct. The fans are overkill if I merely buy them to control them at a slower speed ;)
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1. March 2010 @ 16:51 |
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I reckon he would have pulled off the same overclock with a 1900rpm Slipstream as well.
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1. March 2010 @ 16:55 |
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Hehe newegg reviewers make me LOL. You can tell most of them have no clue what they're talking about. And half of the lower scores are from idiots who messed it up themselves or couldn't figure out how to use the product properly. Newegg reviews can be useful, for predicting and averting potential problems with a product. But read carefully, because you'll usually find an idiot between the lines :P
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1. March 2010 @ 16:56 |
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Indeed. He probably said he got his CPU to 4.8Ghz because it was a dual core 2.4Ghz...
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1. March 2010 @ 17:14 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Indeed. He probably said he got his CPU to 4.8Ghz because it was a dual core 2.4Ghz...
I'm aware of certain fools on newegg LOL! But that one, hadn't occurred to me. A 1900 slipstream eh....
I wonder if that would fit in the Tuniq 120 tower...
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1. March 2010 @ 17:39 |
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Or people who put a 1200W Generic Brand PSU into a computer that takes maybe 250 at max load.
Hehe at the dual core reference. Surprisingly I'm still fighting that bit of misinformation even today. I don't even know why I bother with youtube comments :P
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1. March 2010 @ 17:43 |
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Heck, I'm no genius. As I'm sure most/some of you have gathered. I have my moments. Which is why I like this site. Friendly people who are willing to voice their opinions and experience.
Such a shame I didn't bump into this site earlier. Perhaps life would have dealt me a completely different hand...
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1. March 2010 @ 18:04 |
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Haha my favorite youtube comment of all time
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theres no such thing as a i5 750 dumbass
Oh the irony XD
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1. March 2010 @ 18:15 |
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People really need to think before they speak...err type. Or at least google. Probably good advice for myself :p
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1. March 2010 @ 18:41 |
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My favorite part about youtube is the trolling :P
I love to rip apart people like that. When I offer a factual arguement to their bulls*it, they always come back with insults and "my computer is faster than yours". And I'm like "no it isn't because those parts don't even physically fit together you ignorant prick."
I mean sure, I probably fuel the fires. But at least my e-peen is real and I can actually tell you what parts are in it. The most common response is "I have an i7 and an HD5800 series Dx11 card."
And I'm like "First off, it wasn't a contest for the fastest computer. Second, you misspelled half your words. Third, any idiot who can claim to have built their own computer could at least tell me the model numbers of the CPU and video card. Which you obviously don't know because you have no computer like that, nor a clue as to what you're talking about."
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1. March 2010 @ 18:55 |
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you think they would atleast say SLI 59 series instead :P
speaking of which, i saw an ebay lsiting for a 5770, which was in "sli" with another
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1. March 2010 @ 20:02 |
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Haha my favorite youtube comment of all time
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theres no such thing as a i5 750 dumbass
Oh the irony XD
I raged, and I wasn't even there!
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1. March 2010 @ 20:15 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Almost all fans have an official minimum voltage of 6 or 7. In reality, they'll go a lot lower than that. Also, as an electrical engineer I can't believe what you just wrote.. Rethink that sentence :P
Sam,
First off, I'm not an Electrical Engineer and never claimed to be. I should have made my meaning clearer, and I apologize for that. The motor draws 1.45A. You would have to decrease the voltage considerably below 7v to get it quiet enough to live with. I doubt very much on startup that it would run at all without cranking up the voltage to get it started again. maximum load would be at startup, so if the motor isn't turning at say 4v, it's going to get very warm. I've only seen one that had actually melted the housing and part of the blade hub because the fan froze up, but I have replaced a lot of them that had melted the insulation on the wires, because someone tried to control the fan speed with a wire wound potentiometer.
Electronic fan controllers probably wouldn't be a problem, but cheap resistance ones would be. I couldn't find a single controller that could handle 1.45A, since most 120mm fans only draw around 0.25A
BTW, that 150 CFM fan that was posted isn't the CFM champ. This one from Delta is!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213010
190 CFM, and a claimed dBA of 59! Hurts my ears just to think about something that loud! LOL!!
Russ
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1. March 2010 @ 20:21 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by sammorris:
Indeed. He probably said he got his CPU to 4.8Ghz because it was a dual core 2.4Ghz...
I'm aware of certain fools on newegg LOL! But that one, hadn't occurred to me. A 1900 slipstream eh....
I wonder if that would fit in the Tuniq 120 tower...
Oman7,
It's a standard 120x120x25 fan, so it should fit. here's the part number!
Scythe SY1225SL12SH 110 CFM!
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