Originally posted by sammorris:

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Rob: Hmm, the on/off switch, is that a feature of the 922? Quite a nice feature I must say, as in a case with a large number of fans, you don't need them all on all the time, which is why I like 0-12V fan controllers versus the usual 5-7V minimum.
Rick: The HAF932 can mount the PSU at the top or the bottom.
Maw: The front panel of the Zero is not to everyone's taste. I haven't owned one, but I prefer the finish of the Lexa that I owned, which is reasonably well done. They aren't thoroughly resilient, but you can order replacement front panels for free on warranty just by providing proof of purchase. Other cases, once they're scratched, that's your lot. Coolermaster have no customer service division whatsoever, which is frankly rather poor.
Rob again: The 932 has mesh instead of filters, it's not perfect but it still works reasonably well compared to large openings.
Shaff: Thuban prices seem about expected to me. TDP is probably going to be quite high, but they'll be good value for encoding PCs, not for anyone else.
Russ: Any proper review would disagree, as side ventilation is of paramount importance for high-end gaming PCs, which let's face it, is what the HAF gets used for. A lot of case reviews use basic hardware so it can be used in all cases small or large, makes perfect sense as you can have direct comparisons, but it's relatively useless for a case like the HAF, as you don't see low-end systems in such high-end cases very often, and that is where side ventilation comes into its own.
As for the purist fanboy remark, I didn't mean it physically looks silly, but rather, when you own a case with AMD logos all over it, and explain it has an Intel CPU in it, you look silly. These things do happen, if someone is a big fan of AMD products but then with the next wave of products it turns out to be better to use a rival brand, or vice versa, if they don't have the means to replace the case, then they're stuck with that situation. Same story with when you place stickers, only to a lesser extent. It's hardly a major issue, just something that a few people would want to consider when purchasing such a case.
Personally I agree with Rob, the dragon logo is just too overdone for my liking.

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Originally posted by shaffaaf:

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sorry yes 840. dont know where i got 284 from lol.


the thuban CPUs form AMD are priced insanely well.

the topend one, shoudl cost under $300, at 3.2GHz, with a turbo mode to 3.6GHz and its a black edition. aroud the same price as the 930 i7.

and the lower clocked one at 2.8GHz, none black, with turbo of 3.3 should come under $200.

those are some fantastic prices!

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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To be fair, AMD's marketing emblems are nicer than those of Intel. While I'm no real fan of the dragon, and the slogan "the future is fusion" makes me cringe, the AMD emblem now used in the intro to several games is very nice, I like it. A fitting successor to the age-old Pentium jingle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxhJUv9zhO4&fmt=22

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Nah, the i7 930 is a nice CPU, better value than the 920 (including the D0 version) as it has the same overclock percentage, a higher starting clock speed, the same TDP but the same price. In a games environment the i7 930 is a superior chip to the AMD 6-core CPUs, but in a fully multi-threaded environment you'd have to max one out at 4.2-4.3Ghz to be able to compete with the 6-core CPUs. You would compete, but of course you can overclock the AMDs too. If the 6-core AMDs are available soon then AMD have a clear headstart on Intel for reasonably priced hex-core CPUs, and best of luck to them for that.

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Originally posted by shaffaaf:

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i dunno 130w isnt bad, esp when you consider its at 130W tdp, when intels is the same tdp for 32nm. then again the intel 6 core is mindblowingly fast, which i doubt these will be

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Originally posted by rick5446:

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Personally I like the Black haf932
Like the added usb ports
Lotta big fans
But don't care 4 bottom PSU
Nice 6 min
Check this Video Nice 6 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvsG7AH-9c0

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Originally posted by omegaman7:

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LOL! I blew it off after seeing that.

I'm a bit disappointed that the fan did not come with a grill. Looks like I'll have to purchase one. Hate to have something fall through there...

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Originally posted by omegaman7:

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LOL! I blew it off after seeing that.

I'm a bit disappointed that the fan did not come with a grill. Looks like I'll have to purchase one. Hate to have something fall through there...

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Oman7,
If that's a 120mm fan, I've got one in my hand, in gold! Should look nice on the top of a black case! Send me a PM, and let me know!

Best Regards,
Russ

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Originally posted by omegaman7:

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Originally posted by omegaman7:

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LOL! I blew it off after seeing that.

I'm a bit disappointed that the fan did not come with a grill. Looks like I'll have to purchase one. Hate to have something fall through there...

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Oman7,
If that's a 120mm fan, I've got one in my hand, in gold! Should look nice on the top of a black case! Send me a PM, and let me know!

Best Regards,
Russ

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I'm afraid its a 140mm. I went as large as I could for this case :p

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Russ: Mindblowingly fast presumably means 50% faster than a high-end i7, which is pretty damn fast if you ask me. For the fastest piece of hardware you can buy in its field, you can hardly poop on people getting excited. You don't like it when I do it, so don't do it yourself.
Just because it's expensive, doesn't stop it from being fast. You even complained at me when I said it was out of most people's price range! As in every part of the PC industry, high-end offerings are usually the breakthrough technology that soon filters down to the low-end. I'm sure reasonably priced 6-core i7s will show up in the not too distant future. Until then, AMD have the advantage, so there's nothing left to moan about!

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