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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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17. March 2010 @ 09:38 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
Just this one time listen to sammorris, he's younger and has a better Memory .
LOL, whether that's true or not, I also had less experience back when that was occurring. While I'm hardly going to refute praise, I think that's overblowing it just a little bit :P
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rick5446
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17. March 2010 @ 09:45 |
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I got a little repore with Russ, So I'm pretty sure he'll get a chuckle out of it. I'm just tryin to put a smile on
HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN UP TO snuff my self of late. But then the older ya get all ya get is 16 tons and another day older and deeper in debt
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Red_Maw
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17. March 2010 @ 13:48 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Maxtor are probably the next manufacturer on the list for low reliability behind Hitachi, so that should put the argument into perspective.
My Maxtor Quantum Fireball (IDE) had been running like a champ for more years then I can remember until it got retired recently in favor of a larger, faster hdd ;) Wouldn't buy a Maxtor Quantum drive now, but have to admit it's one the best hdd's I've ever owned lol.
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17. March 2010 @ 14:01 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Originally posted by sammorris:
Maxtor are probably the next manufacturer on the list for low reliability behind Hitachi, so that should put the argument into perspective.
My Maxtor Fireball (IDE) had been running like a champ for more years then I can remember until it got retired recently in favor of a larger, faster hdd ;) Wouldn't buy a Maxtor drive now, but have to admit it's one the best hdd's I've ever owned lol.
You win some, and you lose some. I've bought one seagate drive, and it began to fail in under a week. I've bought more western digitals than I can remember, and only 2 have completely failed. Never seen a samsung in person, I've seen a couple maxtors, and was not impressed LOL! Both were rather noisy.
I can't wait til SSD's are more mainstream, and reliable. I want one badly. I almost had one, but financial situations caught up with me :p Perhaps by the next tax return, there will be a very reliable drive out, and somewhat affordable ;)
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17. March 2010 @ 14:23 |
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The Maxtor Fireball was a rebrand of the Quantum Fireball, it was a Quantum product, not a Maxtor design.
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17. March 2010 @ 14:33 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The Maxtor Fireball was a rebrand of the Quantum Fireball, it was a Quantum product, not a Maxtor design.
LOL! My buddy has one of those drives. I recall laughing at the name ROFL! His computer is pretty old too. A 1999 if memory serves. That's a pretty old friggin drive! I think it has an 800Mhz intel processor(His computer that is). Not sure which model though.
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17. March 2010 @ 14:40 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The Maxtor Fireball was a rebrand of the Quantum Fireball, it was a Quantum product, not a Maxtor design.
Guess I need to update my post, no credit for maxtor lol.
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17. March 2010 @ 16:10 |
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I've got 2 Samsung 500gig very pleased with them..Not too sure of the larger ones though. What blogs I've read the larger ones have a tendency too fail. So pretty much stay with these for larger drives
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284
I take that back, I think I've got an Iomega that is a Samsung 1gig payed 79.00 for it. It was supposed to be a WD, But didn't realize till later, had a couple of mishaps with Iomega [Housing failure not drives] Iomega Techs were great though. They let me take out the HDD to recover my data B4 sending it back. If I'd have realized the new drive was a Samsung, I'd have kept the old one which was a WD
But so far so good, only time will tell
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17. March 2010 @ 16:18 |
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Glad you have that figured rick. The WD1001FALS is more than likely the best 1Tb drive on the market. Figuring for price, performance, and reliability, it can't be beat! I love all 3 of mine :D
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17. March 2010 @ 20:11 |
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Omega: Probably a P3 Coppermine.
Rick: HD501LJ? Probably the best drive Samsung made. Quality went sharply downhill after that one, starting with the F1 series. Supposedly better now, but I'm still a little wary. I do own an HD753LJ myself, but the 1TB ones were horrors.
The WD1001FALS drives seem tremendous though, almost Seagate-like with the racket they make, but they seem to be pretty solid and quite fast. The WD1002FAEX is the new performance champ, but for the price, simply isn't worth it just yet.
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17. March 2010 @ 20:58 |
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Done out of Here!
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17. March 2010 @ 21:30 |
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Yeah, the extra $10 is for the USB3 support it seems.
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17. March 2010 @ 22:43 |
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Now Bigwill68 my choice would be the Biostar for $119.00 since I've become a fan boy of them.my 7750 unlocked to 4 cores along with the 550 on the 790 boards.the 890 is the new board for the 965. The 955 ended up on the TA790Gx max i could get out of that stable with decent temps and voltage was 3.9 ended up running it at 3.6. on stock cooler.
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17. March 2010 @ 23:49 |
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Originally posted by ChrisC586:
Now Bigwill68 my choice would be the Biostar for $119.00 since I've become a fan boy of them.my 7750 unlocked to 4 cores along with the 550 on the 790 boards.the 890 is the new board for the 965. The 955 ended up on the TA790Gx max i could get out of that stable with decent temps and voltage was 3.9 ended up running it at 3.6. on stock cooler.
Chris,
You were very lucky. My 790X GigaByte would unlock both cores on my x2 7750, but neither of them were any good, not even at stock speeds! It wouldn't boot!
Best Regards,
Russ
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18. March 2010 @ 00:14 |
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Tried to install a OS on the i3 build and the system temp is getting way to hot causing it to shut down. Checking temps in the bios tells me the cpu is just under 30C and the system temp is 36C. Not a clue what I can do about this except return the MB, there's no reason for it run that hot.
Edit: the heatsink on the MB doesn't feel that hot when it shuts down, although I don't think it's the cpu because of the readings from the bios. Going to reseat the HSF and try a dedicated gpu tomorrow (later today) and see if that helps.
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18. March 2010 @ 03:57 |
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I think I bought the wrong PSU for my needs. I bought the CMPSU-550VX Corsair, And it might have been wiser to buy a MORE powerful PSU, just to have MORE proper molex, Sata connections. I'm finding that more than one Hard drive, does not like to have a Molex to Sata converter. Why that is I don't know. The first time it happened, I eliminated the problematic connector. Problem solved. Or so I thought...
Today I've encountered a Network issue, to which I blame the HDD in question. I was transferring a VERY large BD file, and just over half way through an error occurred. I shrugged it off and tried again. This time it succeeded. At the time, I figured I either Saturated the network speed(hardly a viable excuse), causing the error, or that the HDD dropped out for an instance. Just now, I noticed that speedfan picked up on another HDD sensor. One It should have noticed quite some time ago. Now I'm REALLY leaning toward a drive connection.
I get the feeling, that had I bought a more powerful PSU, I could have avoided these troubles. THIS is why people buy MORE than they need! To avoid problems like these LOL! Overkill? What's that LOL!
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18. March 2010 @ 04:12 |
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I'm trying to remember... isn't there 6 SATA connections with that PSU?? If not then the single Molex to SATA "extensions" should work nicely.... sorry it's not going your way buddy. :)
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18. March 2010 @ 04:30 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
I'm trying to remember... isn't there 6 SATA connections with that PSU?? If not then the single Molex to SATA "extensions" should work nicely.... sorry it's not going your way buddy. :)
I have 8 sata devices...
Sam suggested that Velociraptor and its power hungry nature, might prefer a more solid connection. I gave it one. The velociraptor has not had a problem since that day. But now, What I call X:\ Drive, may be having an issue. This weekend, I'm gonna make EVERYTHING proper. I'm not gonna leave one molecule unturned LOL! I need to eliminate the PSU as being the problem. This is the first Single 12V rail PSU I've bought in a while. I sure hope the fact that it is SINGLE 12V rail, is not the problem.
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18. March 2010 @ 08:14 |
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Maw: If those temperatures are so low, why do you think it's an overheat causing the shutdown? It could be the PSU you realise...
Omega: Most drives are fine with molex to S-ATA adapters, while I wouldn't recommend using one on a velociraptor, you shouldn't have any issues with any other drives. Have you checked that your S-ATA data cables aren't the cause of the issues?
The PSU being single rail actually makes it less likely that the PSU's an issue, not more.
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18. March 2010 @ 12:00 |
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Thanks sam, unfortunately replacing the PSU didn't change anything :(
I assume it's overheating because in the bios the system temp, which I'm assuming is the MB temp, reads 36C (my rig idles at 29C and maxes at 35C right now, and it generates a lot more heat). While I prefer the MB temp to not go over 40C, I don't really know what's considered too hot or where the safety shut off point is so I am just guess at the problem.
I did notice that when it does make it to the windows loading screen, (the one with the glowing windows logo) right before it crashes it looks like every other pixel was removed and a few green patches show up. Makes me want to try a dedicated gpu but even if it works then I still wouldn't know if the problem is the CPU or the MB (using the i3 530 IGP capabilities for this system) :\
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18. March 2010 @ 12:03 |
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The safety shutdown point is usually 90ºC or so, you're nowhere near it. If you're getting corruption in the integrated graphics it could be a faulty board.
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18. March 2010 @ 12:43 |
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woah, 90C for the MB (not the cpu)? Way higher then I expected. Thanks for advice sam.
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18. March 2010 @ 12:46 |
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It is typically 90C for the CPU. I see NB overheats so rarely that I don't know what the limit is for them, but suffice to say it will be at least 70, almost certainly higher.
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18. March 2010 @ 16:01 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Omega: Most drives are fine with molex to S-ATA adapters, while I wouldn't recommend using one on a velociraptor, you shouldn't have any issues with any other drives. Have you checked that your S-ATA data cables aren't the cause of the issues?
The PSU being single rail actually makes it less likely that the PSU's an issue, not more.
Clearly I don't know much about PSU's then, if that's a fact! LOL!
I've been using the Sata connections for a while now. The only change I've made is rerouting the Sata Power connections.
What I plan on doing now, is Giving the optical drives the Molex to sata conversions. And making Damn sure they're secure, and proper. It's all gonna have to wait til sunday though. I'm leaving for the big city tomorrow night. Sunday, MAJOR changes will ensue LOL! Too many things to mention. Will post pics about the secondaries Physical alterations ;)
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18. March 2010 @ 16:57 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
It is typically 90C for the CPU. I see NB overheats so rarely that I don't know what the limit is for them, but suffice to say it will be at least 70, almost certainly higher.
Sam,
Rick has an Athlon 6000+ on an ECS MB, and it was getting as high as 94C before it shut down. That's right at about 200F! He re-did the thermal paste on the CPU cooler, and it's now about 63C at idle. I think either his CPU cooler isn't adequate, or his case cooling sucks! I would bet on it being poor case airflow! At least he's no longer running in the 90s! LOL!!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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