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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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24. May 2010 @ 23:00 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Someone say gaming rig? LOL
http://www.cracked.com/article_18571_5-r...oure-gamer.html
I was quite entertained with this author's article thanks fer tossing it up here.
I wonder what he would say about the game I've sunk the most of my free time in which
is a purely text game. If anyone used to read the choose your own adventures and care to play a large mud 3kingdoms has kept my attention for uh dang 14 years now
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24. May 2010 @ 23:05 |
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ill vouch for asus being up there with the best mobo makers, but i am basically a fanboy of their mobos, which is ironic becuase i chose a DFI mobo over their brand for uATX... though i regret it as IMO the asus bios is number 1 in my book. i hate how you cant select the acutal votlage but only go up in increments, but that might just be this one.
otherwise, everything else jeff said was perfect :)
PS ATI for gaming right now is the ONLY way to go. and yes please update the PSU, firstly if you get a better case the cables will be tiny, and corsair once agian is the way to go IMO.
i have a corsair H50 cooler, and it works superb. i can vouch for it.
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24. May 2010 @ 23:07 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
3kJodo, I think Estuansis covered just about everything but I'll toss my 2 cents anyway.
To be perfectly honest water cooling is probably something you don't need at this point as it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend a lot of money cooling old/low end hardware unless you're only goal is quiet. If you're interested in it the liquid cooling section on XtremeSystems.com is a very good place to start learning (reading).
Before you keep that ram, the stuff you listed (PC3) won't be compatible with your new system. You need PC2 (DDR2) not PC3 (DDR3).
I would also suggest WD hdd's instead of Maxtor but that could just be me, I'm not familiar with Maxtor.
Unless something goes cattywompass tomorrow the MOBO graphics card and PSU will all go back.
The Maxtor was what was in my first computer and my main goal with that will be to retrieve the data and possibly use it as extra storage and at worst bring the pc to life at least temporarily untill a bigger better HDD is installed
I thought the 790sli ultra took ddr3 chips not that it will matter since its going back
frankly I've looked at so many bloody computer parts in the last 2 months its a purple haze. As for the liquid cooling thats more out of curiosity than implementation and I will definately check out that site if only for learning purposes. I just hope a kernel or two sticks in the ole noggin. I seriously need to start taking notes
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24. May 2010 @ 23:10 |
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maxotor drives for a while now are rebranded seagates, but if you are just using an old one, then no worries. i would recommend a new sata drive aswell, as i assume your ones are IDE?
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24. May 2010 @ 23:14 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
maxotor drives for a while now are rebranded seagates, but if you are just using an old one, then no worries. i would recommend a new sata drive aswell, as i assume your ones are IDE?
you are correct sir! and if you would have asked me that question 6 months ago I would have stared at you blankly
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24. May 2010 @ 23:22 |
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At this point I wonder if it would be better to eat the CPU cost and since I'm basically starting all over go with a mobo that will take an i5 750 I think thats what I have been reading about. I think I'm up to march posts and there seems to be alot of discussion over i7 vs i5 or go the amd route and try that. At some point take the q6600 plop it onto build number 2 and make that a htpc(term learned from here I feel all hip and stuff)
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25. May 2010 @ 00:02 |
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I wouldn't necessarily dump the Q6600 if you don't feel like spending big bucks. It's still a pretty fast CPU and for the price you got a good deal so I'd say use it. Video cards are more important for gaming performance as well, so unless you do something that absolutely needs a monster CPU, the full upgrade to i5 or i7 isn't needed.
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I forgot to put in my monitor(2 years ago christmas present) 22" sceptre Tiny compared to the beasts that are discussed but its at least a flat screen and better than the monitor I had before
Also yeah then you are fine as far as monitors go. I only use a 24"
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25. May 2010 @ 01:10 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
ill vouch for asus being up there with the best mobo makers, but i am basically a fanboy of their mobos, which is ironic becuase i chose a DFI mobo over their brand for uATX... though i regret it as IMO the asus bios is number 1 in my book. i hate how you cant select the acutal votlage but only go up in increments, but that might just be this one.
otherwise, everything else jeff said was perfect :)
PS ATI for gaming right now is the ONLY way to go. and yes please update the PSU, firstly if you get a better case the cables will be tiny, and corsair once agian is the way to go IMO.
i have a corsair H50 cooler, and it works superb. i can vouch for it.
Shaff,
Not playing fan boy here, I can assure you, but I would love to see some screen shots of the H50 in action. I know what my Coolit ECO can do and I've posted a lot of results of my testing on this thread. Bigwill bought one and his results pretty much mirror my own. Rick's results are basically off the charts. His CPU idle temps of 91-92C dropped 44-45C, to 47C. Granted, this is in an antiquated case, that has very poor airflow, but his results are eye-popping to sat the least. I know they are not Shopped, because Rick couldn't be bothered, wasting the time, because he could care less. He doesn't overclock, and he thinks stress testing is a waste of time!
One of the reasons I bought the Coolit was how much the ECO improved when the stock fan was swapped for a Yate Loon fan, in the FrozenCPU tests. Now that I know the cfm of the stock fan is 63 cfm, I'm even more curious.
So far the combination of the Scythe 68 cfm, 1200 rpm fan on the rear, pulling air out of the radiator, and the stock 63 cfm, 1800 rpm fan, moved to the front pushing air in, is better than any other combination I've tried to date. The one thing I can't explain is that after I was done swapping the front fan for a 53 cfm Silverstone and that one for an unknown cfm Cooler Master that came with my case, and then reinstalling the stock 63 cfm fan, it now runs much quieter. I haven't got a clue as to why!
Best Regards,
Russ
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25. May 2010 @ 01:37 |
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Originally posted by 3kJodo:
Thanks hmm thats odd where did the rest of my reply go I am also new to using forums
I still live in the 19th century
Where was I oh yes thanks for the prompt helpfull replies and aye I look forward to learning something new. It keeps life interesting that way
As for the damn RROD next time it breaks I'll ponder the decision of voiding the warrenty
I wish I could go back in time and just buy a durn ps3 for twice as much oh well
So tonight I'll be looking into return policys hopefully they will be merciful. My luck I had to pick such a lousy PSU. Will keep the CPU/cooler and RAM and try returning the few other things on order
Luckily for me Tigerdirect after calling them says that if I refuse the package tomorrow then I will only be charged for the shipping and handling so I will only be out 9 bucks
So my current hardware then would be just the q6600 and 4 gigs of ram with the tuniq cooler in the mail
I forgot to put in my monitor(2 years ago christmas present) 22" sceptre Tiny compared to the beasts that are discussed but its at least a flat screen and better than the monitor I had before
Sceptre makes some pretty good monitors. I have a 20.1" Naga III X20, and it's so good that after lasting through 4 years of hard use, I had it rebuilt for $100 as opposed to buying a new one. They replaced everything but the front and rear covers The big problem with almost all 22" LCD monitors is the 1680x1050 resolution. They are the same 1680x1050 resolution as my X20, so it's never quite as sharp, because the pixels are spaced farther apart because of the increased size of the screen.
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Russ
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25. May 2010 @ 01:39 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Shaff,
Not playing fan boy here, I can assure you, but I would love to see some screen shots of the H50 in action. I know what my Coolit ECO can do and I've posted a lot of results of my testing on this thread. Bigwill bought one and his results pretty much mirror my own. Rick's results are basically off the charts. His CPU idle temps of 91-92C dropped 44-45C, to 47C. Granted, this is in an antiquated case, that has very poor airflow, but his results are eye-popping to sat the least. I know they are not Shopped, because Rick couldn't be bothered, wasting the time, because he could care less. He doesn't overclock, and he thinks stress testing is a waste of time!
Best Regards,
Russ
This is why I like Rick... his attitude mirrors mine at times... just gimme something that works correctly and is stable and get the heck out of the way!!! LOL. ;)
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I think that Gigabyte is a viable mobo for your uses 3kJodo. Simple and good all in one package. As Jeff said NOTHING wrong with the Q6600, just get a good mobo and some good RAM to go along with it. ;) IF wanting to play some games the VIDEO card is MORE important than the CPU if you ask me. ;) BUT Sammy and the yungins here are a better resource for that debate. ;)
OH.. and the psu Jeff linked to is dang good. You can get more power if you want to but it'll run just about any combination of cpu, video card, and other components you can think of!! I have one and it's brilliant!!!
GOOD LUCK to you!!
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25. May 2010 @ 01:46 |
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3kJodo, your power supply is in dire need of replacement. I wouldn't trust that power supply to power a watch LOL! I hate to seem rude, but you really do need to hear it. If you want a good power supply, (others have said it) get a corsair power supply. You won't regret it. There are other good brands too. a 550W PSU is pretty good. I have one :D I also have a 750W corsair. Most stable PSU i've used ;) The 550W was close, but I think I have a slight bit more hardware than that badboy wants to run. I was aiming toward MORE proper sata connectors though too.
I believe shaff said that Maxtors are rebranded seagates. I concur. I've dealt with a few situations ;) Seagates in MY experience are not always very good drives. That could just be bad luck, but my luck seems to be with Western digital :D
Never had an Nvidia board. If it lasts more than one year though, perhaps you got your money worth. That's all I expect anymore. I seem to upgrade yearly now LOL!
I have the Tuniq cooler. It won't disappoint.
I believe someone else commented on the ram. Be sure that the ram you buy is compatible ;) Shipping times can burn up a lot of play time ;)
Estuansis, 24" only? You should be ashamed. And so should I LOL! XD
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25. May 2010 @ 02:01 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
3kJodo, your power supply is in dire need of replacement. I wouldn't trust that power supply to power a watch LOL! I hate to seem rude, but you really do need to hear it. If you want a good power supply, (others have said it) get a corsair power supply. You won't regret it. There are other good brands too. a 550W PSU is pretty good. I have one :D I also have a 750W corsair. Most stable PSU i've used ;) The 550W was close, but I think I have a slight bit more hardware than that badboy wants to run. I was aiming toward MORE proper sata connectors though too.
I believe shaff said that Maxtors are rebranded seagates. I concur. I've dealt with a few situations ;) Seagates in MY experience are not always very good drives. That could just be bad luck, but my luck seems to be with Western digital :D
Never had an Nvidia board. If it lasts more than one year though, perhaps you got your money worth. That's all I expect anymore. I seem to upgrade yearly now LOL!
I have the Tuniq cooler. It won't disappoint.
I believe someone else commented on the ram. Be sure that the ram you buy is compatible ;) Shipping times can burn up a lot of play time ;)
Estuansis, 24" only? You should be ashamed. And so should I LOL! XD
Heh no offense takin bout the PSU it just seemed liked a good choice for whatever uneducated reason that I chose it and it wont even make it out of the box :)
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25. May 2010 @ 02:30 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
maxotor drives for a while now are rebranded seagates, but if you are just using an old one, then no worries. i would recommend a new sata drive aswell, as i assume your ones are IDE?
ah, good to know. thanks.
Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Someone say gaming rig? LOL
http://www.cracked.com/article_18571_5-r...oure-gamer.html
lol, sad but true.
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Not playing fan boy here, I can assure you, but I would love to see some screen shots of the H50 in action. I know what my Coolit ECO can do and I've posted a lot of results of my testing on this thread. Bigwill bought one and his results pretty much mirror my own. Rick's results are basically off the charts. His CPU idle temps of 91-92C dropped 44-45C, to 47C. Granted, this is in an antiquated case, that has very poor airflow, but his results are eye-popping to sat the least. I know they are not Shopped, because Rick couldn't be bothered, wasting the time, because he could care less. He doesn't overclock, and he thinks stress testing is a waste of time!
Best Regards,
Russ
Idle temps of 91C, how the heck did he use it? You would think it would reach the Tjunction during startup.
3kJodo, as far as I know no socket 775 cpus or MB's are compatible with DDR3.
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25. May 2010 @ 02:32 |
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(by omegaman7)Estuansis, 24" only? You should be ashamed. And so should I LOL! XD
Why? I wear bifocals, and a 24" does not work for me at all. If I push a 24" to the very back of the desk, it's not so overwhelming, but I can't see the damn thing clearly. Up close or pushed back I still get a headache from any 24". It's just too large! Great for gaming, but way too big up close for a desktop monitor! So far this is the best I've used. Great monitor too!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236053
Russ
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LOL russ. My mom loves her 23.6 asus. Very clear pic. Apparently her husband likes it even more than her. I simply like large things. A 30" monitor high resolution(2560 X 1600) or not, would be no different than a wet dream LOL! I would probably be happier with a 40" 1920 X 1080 HDTV, but since most of them suffer from overscan issues, I won't risk buying one or more of them. If I new that said 40" would NOT suffer from overscan, and had VERY good viewing angles. E.g. it would have to be at least an S-IPS panel. I don't want another TN panel LCD. I want a monitor that's excellent for photo editing, and gaming at the same time.
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Idle temps of 91C, how the heck did he use it? You would think it would reach the Tjunction during startup.
Red_Maw,
It used to start out around 91C, get to 103C and crash the computer. Rick got into the habit of pausing what he was doing at 100C to let it cool down to avoid that! He would still crash it several times a day! Since he's installed the Coolit ECO, it hasn't crashed since!
Russ
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25. May 2010 @ 02:52 |
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3kJodo, as far as I know no socket 775 cpus or MB's are compatible with DDR3.
hmm well this puts me in a quandry, since I was super smart and bought incompatable cpu/ram I must choose to shelf one or the other since they were approximately the same price. I would like some longevity from this build with options to upgrade along the way so I think will keep the ram shelf the CPU. It feels like I'm going backwards! But thanks to all your helpfull advice I now wont get a mobo with ram that wont work and house on fire so allready you guys have helped me out tons. Since I'm shelving the CPU I'm leaning towards a gigabyte xfire mobo of a socketype yet to be determined oh and takes ddr3 dimms at least I think they are 240 pin dimms I will have to check when I get to work if I recall correctly sdram and dimm are different forms which would require different styles of MOBOS?
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25. May 2010 @ 08:40 |
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Well I finally got that Roswill RC222 [SATA150] to recognize
I had to take out my IDE Card and plugged it in that slot. I guess that PCI Slot is bad
Hears the next problem...My HDDs are recognized by the card, by Device Manager, but not by Compute Manager. I can't assign a Drive letter nor does it show up in Explorer
Everest shows it also
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Are these new drives? Have you formatted them?
3K: There are a few 775 DDR3 boards out there. Most are dodgy nforces, but if you can still find a Gigabyte P35C-DS3R, that has two DDR3 slots on it. That won't support crossfire though.
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25. May 2010 @ 11:01 |
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id say if you want to choose DDR3 jump on tghe i3/i5 or AM3 bandwagon and cut your losses with old chipsets.
(which onc agian is ironic as i am using a Q6600 and on old chipset lol)
MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|.
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MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|.
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UHD has been around for ages, but it has never yet been commercialised due to the monumental difficulty of using it as an interface, bandwidth for transmission, bitrate for storage and processing power for decoding are all a huge headache. But yes, do want.
Due to the undoubtedly poor availability of UHD TV I would only want a UHD monitor of a 30" or so size for use as a PC monitor for higher pixel density. It would probably have to be at least PVA or IPS though, not going to sacrifice IPS picture quality for pixel density.
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
id say if you want to choose DDR3 jump on tghe i3/i5 or AM3 bandwagon and cut your losses with old chipsets.
(which onc agian is ironic as i am using a Q6600 and on old chipset lol)
Me too Shaff. lol. BUT I like the idea of the i5 Intel or the AM3 AMD. Either are very good options and would serve anyone for years to come!!!! :)
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25. May 2010 @ 14:57 |
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Right now I would probably look at the AMD hexa cores for a new build as they have decent power consumption and perform well. Plus it's rumored that bulldozer will be compatible with AM3 MB's.
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Red_Maw,
It used to start out around 91C, get to 103C and crash the computer. Rick got into the habit of pausing what he was doing at 100C to let it cool down to avoid that! He would still crash it several times a day! Since he's installed the Coolit ECO, it hasn't crashed since!
Russ
Doesn't sound like a very useful computer lol.
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Russ, didn't you say that was the dual core 6000+ that was running at those temps? Wow. My 5200 I only saw that hit 55C once. 100C is smokin hot LOL! I wouldn't think CPU's can handle that temp.
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