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Any Flaming Results in a Temp Ban or Worse. Your Choice!!!
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25. May 2010 @ 15:59 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Right now I would probably look at the AMD hexa cores for a new build as they have decent power consumption and perform well. Plus it's rumored that bulldozer will be compatible with AM3 MB's.
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Red_Maw,
It used to start out around 91C, get to 103C and crash the computer. Rick got into the habit of pausing what he was doing at 100C to let it cool down to avoid that! He would still crash it several times a day! Since he's installed the Coolit ECO, it hasn't crashed since!
Russ
Doesn't sound like a very useful computer lol.
Red_Maw,
All I can say is he does an incredible amount of work on it, mostly video encoding. His computer runs pretty much 24/7! The AMD Athlon x2 6000+ is a real heater to begin with, but it apparently can take the abuse. It's not even overclocked! I almost jumped out of my socks the first time I saw Rick's temps! Obviously the thermal shut down is turned off in the setup. LOL!! I half expected it to boil the water in the Coolit!
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25. May 2010 @ 16:16 |
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sammorris : Formatted and got Data on if
Even if it wasn't Formatted if should show up as found new drive, and show up in Computer Management
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Russ, didn't you say that was the dual core 6000+ that was running at those temps? Wow. My 5200 I only saw that hit 55C once. 100C is smokin hot LOL! I wouldn't think CPU's can handle that temp.
Oman7,
217.4F at shutdown! I've never seen, or even heard of temps that high before!
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25. May 2010 @ 16:28 |
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Remember all you guys think Celsius..The Temperatures Russ is referring to are Fahrenhet
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I'm thinking its a good board. But onboard graphics MAY hinder overclocking efforts...
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25. May 2010 @ 18:52 |
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Well Guys not to bump you'll subject of Fahrenhet and Celsius discussion my problem is video card heat. I tore down the my AMD Rig today and removed my Radeon HD 4770 512MB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150369 Boy that Joker was Warm to the touch even the plastic cover was holding heat. I removed the heatsink made of aluminum they say should'en hold heat long if it's properly cooled with air flow. I took a few pics of the disassenbled card and found the heatsink very thick to me. I asked myself how can heat travel thru this thick plate properly and be dispensed out with holding back heat like storage seems to me it's not escaping right or not good enough even your factory intel coolers have a copper plate in the center of a surrounding aluminum heatsinks,Why they did'nt use that method on factory heatsinks on video card?sense install the new card from my old GeForce 8400 GS 512mb Temps have increased at idle with the New Radeon HD 4770 old idle temps between 35 to 37c and new temps between 40 to 45c varys all in all. I found myself looking for solution of a after market Heatpipe Universal VGA Cooler instead hoping that will solve the heat issue that arrived fan repositioning seems not to work in my CM690II Russ has helped me in that aspected of the game all. I can say these Bigger Video Hold alot heat and.I don't see how Sam is doin it with Dual's Hat's off to you:)Me.I gotta modify this card get the heat away much faster and out the case and with the factory heatsink they put on this card it's not getting the job done right by depensing the heat out in a good direction my question which one gets rid of heat faster copper or aluminum? here's and few after market cooler.I've been looking at for the card any other ideals feel free to suggest...remember.I need it to fit the card
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/image/...c21&id=m7bRgihF
http://www.xpcgear.com/vf1000.html
here's pics of the disassenbled card
plate is thick
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bottom base pic which way doe's the HeatTravel? straight up or across the plate and up?
pic of a stock intel cooler with copper insert to spread the heat across the aluminum base and fins and runs cooler than the card factory one
I gotta cool this card down any insight let me know:)Thanks
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25. May 2010 @ 19:01 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I'm thinking its a good board. But onboard graphics MAY hinder overclocking efforts...
rats! In what way would it inhibit overclocking? Would it be something that could be toggled off or is it going to fight with the expansion slot graphic cards or something? Or some other kind of issue that I haven't even thought could exist.(plenty of choices in third option)
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25. May 2010 @ 19:12 |
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
my question which one gets rid of heat faster copper or aluminum? here's and few after market cooler.I've been looking at for the card any other ideals feel free to suggest...remember.I need it to fit the card
I don't know squat bout coolers but purely metal related I would say copper is more conductive than aluminum. Course I could be wrong but with a 50/50 shot I figured what the hay
I'm sure the electrical engineer could state for sure dang wish I could remember which one you that was
Also I would concur in the thinking that thicker the plate the worse in that it would store heat over emitting heat the more surface area the better
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copper is more conductive IICR.
will i have the VF1000 onone of my 4870s, and the sapphirecooler on the other. the sapphire will hit 100c without a problem while underload i havent seen the vf100 hit even 70c, adn thats ont he lowest fanspeed. rigth now im about to install the vf1000 on my second 4870 and ill let yuo knwohow it goes.
russ i didnt say anythign bad about the coolit. i wasnt putting it down or saying it was worse, i just said i have a H50 adn i can vouch for it being good. dont see why one would get defensive over that.
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this is with 1 VF1000 and one corsair cooler, in a uATX case aswell. very cramped (ie PSU is just 1cm from the GPUs and directly above the CPU (ie themiddle of the fan is 2cm above, taking heat from the pump)
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25. May 2010 @ 21:28 |
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Originally posted by 3kJodo:
Thoughts on this MOBO?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435
I figure this bugger should last upgrading wise easily as long as my last slain mobo
This AMD stuff is mostly outside of my experience but I would probably suggest a GA-890XA-UD3 over the UD3H. With just a quick comparison it appears to be the same board except with out OBG (on board graphics).
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Originally posted by 3kJodo:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
I'm thinking its a good board. But onboard graphics MAY hinder overclocking efforts...
rats! In what way would it inhibit overclocking? Would it be something that could be toggled off or is it going to fight with the expansion slot graphic cards or something? Or some other kind of issue that I haven't even thought could exist.(plenty of choices in third option)
3kJodo,
You would be better served with this motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128416
I don't know about other brand motherboards, but the on-board graphics on the Gigabyte's do not lose anything when using a dedicated video card. When you turn it off, it's off! Why pay more for something you will never use. Your interest is in gaming, so I would stick with a board without on-board graphice!
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
copper is more conductive IICR.
will i have the VF1000 onone of my 4870s, and the sapphirecooler on the other. the sapphire will hit 100c without a problem while underload i havent seen the vf100 hit even 70c, adn thats ont he lowest fanspeed. rigth now im about to install the vf1000 on my second 4870 and ill let yuo knwohow it goes.
russ i didnt say anythign bad about the coolit. i wasnt putting it down or saying it was worse, i just said i have a H50 adn i can vouch for it being good. dont see why one would get defensive over that.
Shaff,
I'm not in any way being defensive, or asking for proof. You have the H50, I have the ECO, and I would like to compare both in real world use, that's all. It might give both of us a chance to learn something to better our overall cooling, and help anybody else that takes the "Plunge" (Pun intended)! I know what the ECO can do, and I've posted the results, I've just never seen any real world results on the H50. You've not made any claims for the H50, that I know of. I never thought you were putting down anything.
I look at what I've accomplished, and find that I've come up with a good solution with the fans, more by luck than by design. The places that test these things are very lacking in important information. FrozenCPU won't even give you the ambient room temperature, but just says all the tests were done within 1 degree of each other. Overclock.net had the room temp at 21C/70F. How many people are going to be able to maintain that temperature, when summer gets here.
I've looked at all the reviews, and there's more noise than substance out there. The only way people are going to get any information that's worthwhile, is from people they can trust, like you and I. I wasn't meaning it as a challenge, but just a sharing of information, so all can benefit by it and make their choices easier.
Best Regards,
Russ
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Ahh Saviors! Once again assisting in avoiding ignorant pitfalls! No integrated video check I will definately take a looksee at those 2 or 3 mobo suggesstions. The room that this pc will reside in unfortunately is not far removed from the elements. A smidge of three tab, a bit of toungue and groove and a smattering of wallpaper is all that will protect this pc. So when it's 90-100F outside its pretty much the same in the comp room ugg conversely when its 20F degrees outside a space heater on the toes and a blanket is a must. Needless to say an effective cooling system without sounding like a C-130 is a must. Funny that the fighters actually make the windows rattle where the 130's don't (durn afterburners. After seeing how downright chilly Russ is able to his rig I flip flopped and am going to try that eco dealy (gotta love hard figures) quantitative will forever be qualitative unless ya start doing lame stat tests with them.
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Ha ha! I'll definitely be trying the eco before too long myself. Summer is right around the corner after all ;) I think ultimately, I'm saving for a larger monitor though. 24" is nice, but darnit! I need something new to play with ;)
I don't think it has to be 2560 x 1600 resolution, but it does need to be larger. Haven't found a 30" MONITOR, that only has a 1920 x 1200 resolution. Wow, that 3008WFP consumes 250W in full operational mode. Where as the 3007WFP only consumes 177W. Though the 3000WFP has a brighter display, amongst other abilities ;) Well worth the money.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/produ...3-4890,222-7175
I think I'm gonna wait a long time, to upgrade to a different display. I think another 24" monitor is about what I need. Perhaps a 28", depending on the price. The Hanns-G could be a good idea. I would definitely consider purchasing a warranty though. It seems to have issues crossing the 1.5Yr threshold...
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Originally posted by 3kJodo:
Ahh Saviors! Once again assisting in avoiding ignorant pitfalls! No integrated video check I will definately take a looksee at those 2 or 3 mobo suggesstions. The room that this pc will reside in unfortunately is not far removed from the elements. A smidge of three tab, a bit of toungue and groove and a smattering of wallpaper is all that will protect this pc. So when it's 90-100F outside its pretty much the same in the comp room ugg conversely when its 20F degrees outside a space heater on the toes and a blanket is a must. Needless to say an effective cooling system without sounding like a C-130 is a must. Funny that the fighters actually make the windows rattle where the 130's don't (durn afterburners. After seeing how downright chilly Russ is able to his rig I flip flopped and am going to try that eco dealy (gotta love hard figures) quantitative will forever be qualitative unless ya start doing lame stat tests with them.
3kJodo,
It's funny how things can change in the blink of an eye. I had researched several CPU coolers, and had all but decided on this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608016
I was using a Freezer 64 very successfully, but I had fears of the coming summer. We see temps here (Southern California), in the 110F range in the summertime, and 117-118F is not unheard of, but rare. The house I live in is a Post WWII house, built in the late 40's with whatever materials available. As such, there is no insulation at all in the exterior walls. We maintain 80-85F when it's 110F outside, so I have to take that into consideration. It's comfortable enough though. Anyway, I was waiting for the funds to purchase the Noctua when someone posted a link for the Coolit Systems ECO. I was literally hours away from my purchase of the noctua, but I researched the ECO anyway. I was so impressed with the Company and the product, but I was still undecided. For once I listened to that little voice in my head that told me it was the right choice, and bought the ECO, at the last moment. I couldn't be happier!
Here's a very eye opening video from Coolit Systems. Man, do they abuse this thing!
http://www.coolitsystems.com/index.php/eco.html
It and the information I gathered about the ECO and Coolit Systems, combined with that little inner voice, convinced me, so I went and ordered the coolit! As I said, "I couldn't be happier"!
Maybe some of that is hard to understand, but I've always shunned "why", in favor of "why not", and my moto has always been, "Consider the possibilities"! That philosophy has taken me all over the world, with someone else paying for the trips, while being paid very well for my time. The fact that I had to work, is incidental, and I've been places most people can only dream of, while I made my dreams a reality!
Enjoy whatever you build, and have fun doing it!
Best regards,
Russ
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
...... blah blah blah.....
Here's a very eye opening video from Coolit Systems. Man, do they abuse this thing!
http://www.coolitsystems.com/index.php/eco.html
It and the information I gathered about the ECO and Coolit Systems, combined with that little inner voice, convinced me, so I went and ordered the coolit! As I said, "I couldn't be happier"!
........blah blah blah........
Enjoy whatever you build, and have fun doing it!
Best regards,
Russ
FECK me.... after watching that video I WANT ONE!!!! :D :D :D
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Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
...... blah blah blah.....
Here's a very eye opening video from Coolit Systems. Man, do they abuse this thing!
http://www.coolitsystems.com/index.php/eco.html
It and the information I gathered about the ECO and Coolit Systems, combined with that little inner voice, convinced me, so I went and ordered the coolit! As I said, "I couldn't be happier"!
........blah blah blah........
Enjoy whatever you build, and have fun doing it!
Best regards,
Russ
FECK me.... after watching that video I WANT ONE!!!! :D :D :D
GM,
Tough little Booger Bear, isn't it! LOL!!
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Well I suppose its time for the last component opinions on best bang for yer buck AM3 socket cpu
I plan on starting with one 5870 and can xfire at some later date when more revenue presents itself
I have a few minutes of downtime and was perusing newegg and looking at omega's CPU which there were two versions of with the only difference I can see being the TDP 125/140. If I understand this correctly the 140 has a higher threshold before it crashes? Which would be ideal for OC I assume thus making it more expensive?
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Originally posted by 3kJodo:
Well I suppose its time for the last component opinions on best bang for yer buck AM3 socket cpu
I plan on starting with one 5870 and can xfire at some later date when more revenue presents itself
I have a few minutes of downtime and was perusing newegg and looking at omega's CPU which there were two versions of with the only difference I can see being the TDP 125/140. If I understand this correctly the 140 has a higher threshold before it crashes? Which would be ideal for OC I assume thus making it more expensive?
3kJodo,
Just my opinion, but I have the 955BE with C3 stepping. Omegaman7 has the 965BE with C3 stepping, he's on a DDR3 motherboard, and I'm on a DDR2 motherboard.
omegaman7's CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
omegaman7's Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128416
omegaman7's Memory-DDR3 Cas7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...emory-_-NA-_-NA
My CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808
My Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...oards-_-NA-_-NA
My Memory-DDR2 Cas5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...5-214-_-Product
Both of us are overclocked to 3.9GHz, and the difference in performance is minimal between the two of us. I thought about getting the 965BE with the C3 stepping, but the performance difference didn't justify the additional $30 additional cost to me, at the time. Please note the ones with the C3 stepping all end in GMBOX. The GIBOX is the C2 stepping, and not quite as good or as cool running as the C3 stepping, and the C3 stepping, are the latest revision. With the 965BE/C3 you get a 125w CPU, the same as the 955BE/C3. His is binned slightly better than mine, so he needs less volts than I do to reach 3.9GHz. Both will run at 4.0GHz, and both of us prefer to back the overclock back 0.1GHz, as the performance difference is very slight. Which ever one you buy, be sure the number ends in GMBOX. They are the better CPUs, and adds a few more options in the bios setup. Both run in the low 60,000 MIPS range, and are fairly equal in performance. Why the 140w CPU costs more, I have no idea, but the C3 stepping are the better chips!
The DDR3 will eventually be the better performer, but for now, lower latency DDR3 memory is just too expensive to justify spending the extra bucks!
Hope this helps!
Best Regards,
Russ
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I concur with russ's post. Barely...
Russ, try harder next time :p
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I concur with russ's post. Barely...
Russ, try harder next time :p
Oman7,
And what would you have me do? LOL!! I'm getting a very minor difference in performance and saved $30! I can't say whether I'll have enough time to get to DDR3 and a x6, but I'm hoping!
Russ
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
3kJodo,
Just my opinion, but I have the 955BE with C3 stepping. Omegaman7 has the 965BE with C3 stepping, he's on a DDR3 motherboard, and I'm on a DDR2 motherboard.
Both of us are overclocked to 3.9GHz, and the difference in performance is minimal between the two of us. I thought about getting the 965BE with the C3 stepping, but the performance difference didn't justify the additional $30 additional cost to me, at the time. Please note the ones with the C3 stepping all end in GMBOX. The GIBOX is the C2 stepping, and not quite as good or as cool running as the C3 stepping, and the C3 stepping, are the latest revision. With the 965BE/C3 you get a 125w CPU, the same as the 955BE/C3. His is binned slightly better than mine, so he needs less volts than I do to reach 3.9GHz. Both will run at 4.0GHz, and both of us prefer to back the overclock back 0.1GHz, as the performance difference is very slight. Which ever one you buy, be sure the number ends in GMBOX. They are the better CPUs, and adds a few more options in the bios setup. Both run in the low 60,000 MIPS range, and are fairly equal in performance. Why the 140w CPU costs more, I have no idea, but the C3 stepping are the better chips!
Hope this helps!
Best Regards,
Russ
Ahh the kernels of wisdom continue!! this c2 c3 stepping thing nixed 2 cpus of the 4 I was looking at which funny enough left yours and omegas cpus left hmm to spend 20 more dollars or not
Ouch! upon further review 5870s are a bit out of reach atm perhaps christmas time how bout a decent card oh 100 bucks range to tide over till december or would that be a waste and just eat the 400 bucks now and bear the wrath of wife
Case: CM RC-690 KKN1,PSU: Corsair VX550,MOBO: Giga GA-790XTA-UD4,CPU:PhenomII 965BE,EcoLit CPU cooler,GC: XFX HD-585X-ZNFV,Monitor: Sceptre,HDD: Seagate 1TB Barracuda,ODD:LG 22x
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26. May 2010 @ 17:11 |
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I was just teasing russ ;)
I spent the extra on the 965 for comparisons only. I had a feeling the 955 and 965 would be damn similar if not the same. I basically bit the bullet, so others could use any info I gave, to base their decision on. Plus I kind of like having "The best". And the stock numbers are better ;)
I don't have a cutting edge GPU yet, or CPU...but I intend to remedy that in the next few months :D First things first, I need to concentrate on my friggin car. Transportation definitely comes first LOL!
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