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13. May 2010 @ 17:43 |
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Ha ha! They wouldn't be for the cpu. More for the GPU, and other components ;)
As well as simply being more future capable ;) This case ain't going nowhere!
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13. May 2010 @ 18:35 |
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Here's my latest DVDRB/CCE Encode, after my NorthBridge fan mod.
I know people who would be happy to be getting these temps at idle with a Phenom II. Here I am getting them doing an Encode! LOL!!
Here's the end result.
It actually runs faster because it runs cooler. It lowered the time by 3 minutes, from the same Encode I did yesterday. Same settings and all, but just cooler! While I can't say for sure that the temps are any better than if I had used the Corsair H50, I have a lot more confidence in the CoolIt. It's very well made and very rugged. Glad I took the "Plunge", so to speak! ROFLMSOAO!! The results speak for themselves.
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13. May 2010 @ 18:39 |
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Looks like your movie didn't require much compression. You don't keep extras eh? I get close to that time keeping almost everything ;)
Your temps are the same as mine, when my room is super cooled by our Air conditioner. Though thats almost uncomfortably cold!
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13. May 2010 @ 18:45 |
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yeah, coolit sell to corsair, so id expect coolit to be better. Damn you russ, could have told me about it before i bought the h50
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13. May 2010 @ 19:26 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Looks like your movie didn't require much compression. You don't keep extras eh? I get close to that time keeping almost everything ;)
Your temps are the same as mine, when my room is super cooled by our Air conditioner. Though thats almost uncomfortably cold!
Oman7,
I rarely keep any of that junk! I want as much picture quality as I can get in the Movie itself. While not huge in terms of compression, it still has to compress the video down from 5.6GB to 4.3GB. I went back and re-did Jurassic Park, which is 7.6GB, and got the same temps, and slightly better time! It still only took 26 minutes!
Once it starts to get over 80F outside, it's almost impossible to get my room under 80F. I manage about 80-85F in here during the summer months. The house is a typical, Post WWII house, made with the materials available at the time. There is no insulation at all in the outside walls, also very typical for that era of construction.
Best Regards,
Russ
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13. May 2010 @ 19:33 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
yeah, coolit sell to corsair, so id expect coolit to be better. Damn you russ, could have told me about it before i bought the h50
Shaff,
LOL!! I didn't even know the CoolIt existed until just a few weeks ago, or I would have said something sooner. Sorry, wrong place at the wrong time! ROFLMAO!! Had I know just how good it was going to be in real world use, I would have let you know, believe me! To say I'm pleased with the results, would be an understatement!
Russ
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13. May 2010 @ 19:52 |
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Not my first candidate for a watercooling user, but glad it's worked out well :P
I'm off for a week on a field trip, I may/may not be able to post depending on whether internet access works on foreign phone networks, we'll see. If not, talk to you guys in a week :P
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13. May 2010 @ 20:16 |
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Have a fun trip sam :)
Russ, is the radiator that comes with the coolit normal? I'm starting to wonder what kind of performance difference you would see if you put shrouds on it with a push/pull fan configuration lol. Probably not worth the added expense, but still fun never the less.
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Not my first candidate for a watercooling user, but glad it's worked out well :P
I'm off for a week on a field trip, I may/may not be able to post depending on whether internet access works on foreign phone networks, we'll see. If not, talk to you guys in a week :P
Sam,
Oh, I agree on that. It's just a glorified CPU cooler, but for it's intended purpose, it's not difficult to get it working really well. The performance is there, and it shows in the results.
I would imagine that your cooling would be a bit of a nightmare, with all those High End video cards. You could still greatly improve your overall temps using the CoolIt ECO, in place of your existing CPU cooler. A large portion of the heat in your case comes from the CPU cooler. Fans or no fans, air coolers radiate a lot of heat inside the case. For me, for the same money, I don't think the 92mm 4 pipe Noctua could have done as good a job as the ECO! I know that I would not have been able to keep the Vid card in the 16x slot, and with the lack of room, it would have been almost impossible to rig some cooling for the NB! There's just no room, even for a 40mm fan on my NorthBridge heat sink! Not even with the Freezer 64!
I guess what the ECO does best, is remove a huge chunk of heat from one place, and transfers it to the back door, so to speak. That area of heat no longer exists, and it amazingly does it without any impact on your case temps. All the Eco's components inside the case remain cool to the touch. The heat get's shoved out the back door courtesy of the two fans on the Rad. Elegantly Simple, and extremely efficient. Their CPU FHE (Fluid Heat Exchanger) Base is a Marvel. It's not polished very well, but it is extremely flat. I couldn't find one flaw in the surface with a precision Straight Edge. I still think the great heat transfer has something to do with the 1/8" ID tubing's they use on it as they can't move as much water as larger sized tubings. How they do it, I don't know, but it was a pretty big shock to stick my hand in there after it had been running all day and feel no heat at the pump, lines, or the radiator. I didn't expect a lot of heat, but I did expect to feel something. It's just amazing how closely it follows it's design strategy when it's running. It does exactly what CoolIt says it will do, and a bit more! Just the fact that it cured the video card slot problem, made it worthwhile to me. The 630 runs great in Oxi, and there's detail we never knew existed before, in Russell's games. Temps are a non-issue. It idles at 29C and barely breaks 40 doing an Encode.
Best Regards,
Russ
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Have a fun trip sam :)
Russ, is the radiator that comes with the coolit normal? I'm starting to wonder what kind of performance difference you would see if you put shrouds on it with a push/pull fan configuration lol. Probably not worth the added expense, but still fun never the less.
Red_Maw,
That's the whole point of the design. The rear fan get's mounted to the Rad, and you mount the whole thing by attaching the mounted fan to the case, just like a normal case fan, blowing out. The other fan mounts right to the opposite side of the Rad, blowing in. Since mounting the fans to the rad, effectively seals them against the Rad frame, there's no need for a shroud! It's an amazingly simple and efficient system, and the power consumption of the pump is an unbelievably low 1w! There's not an Air cooled CPU cooler made, that can do what the CoolIt Eco can do. It permanently removes that large block of heat that exists with every air cooled system, by transferring the CPU heat to the Rad, and the fans see it on it's way, very quickly, with no residual heat!
I just had a couple of Dr. friends drop by to take a look at it, One Dr. has a TRU-E on a 965BE, and the other has a Tuniq 120 on a 955BE/C2, on the same motherboard as mine. One of the guys ordered his on my computer before they left. The other was putting together and order to Newegg, so he was going to wait until he got home, and do it all at once. At $74.99 Retail, it's a bargain! At $54.99 it was a steal! That price is good until the 15th! If someone needed more time, buy it from newegg, and use Check for payment. That will give you 30 days before newegg cancels the sale. Even though there's 30 days, Newegg still pulls the part from inventory, so when you do pay for it, it's shipped right away!
Russ
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
How they do it, I don't know, but it was a pretty big shock to stick my hand in there after it had been running all day and feel no heat at the pump, lines, or the radiator. I didn't expect a lot of heat, but I did expect to feel something.
Best Regards,
Russ
I've heard that if you can feel heat from a radiator that means it's overburdened and can't handle the heat output of the components in the loop.
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Red_Maw,
That's the whole point of the design. The rear fan get's mounted to the Rad, and you mount the whole thing by attaching the mounted fan to the case, just like a normal case fan, blowing out. The other fan mounts right to the opposite side of the Rad, blowing in. Since mounting the fans to the rad, effectively seals them against the Rad frame, there's no need for a shroud! It's an amazingly simple and efficient system, and the power consumption of the pump is an unbelievably low 1w! There's not an Air cooled CPU cooler made, that can do what the CoolIt Eco can do. It permanently removes that large block of heat that exists with every air cooled system, by transferring the CPU heat to the Rad, and the fans see it on it's way, very quickly, with no residual heat!
Russ
So it is designed to work with two fans, I like it even more now. By the way the main purpose of shrouds is to reduce cavitation (fans in push/pull also help with this) on the surface of the radiator; it never occurred to me that they would also force more air through it.
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
How they do it, I don't know, but it was a pretty big shock to stick my hand in there after it had been running all day and feel no heat at the pump, lines, or the radiator. I didn't expect a lot of heat, but I did expect to feel something.
Best Regards,
Russ
I've heard that if you can feel heat from a radiator that means it's overburdened and can't handle the heat output of the components in the loop.
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Red_Maw,
That's the whole point of the design. The rear fan get's mounted to the Rad, and you mount the whole thing by attaching the mounted fan to the case, just like a normal case fan, blowing out. The other fan mounts right to the opposite side of the Rad, blowing in. Since mounting the fans to the rad, effectively seals them against the Rad frame, there's no need for a shroud! It's an amazingly simple and efficient system, and the power consumption of the pump is an unbelievably low 1w! There's not an Air cooled CPU cooler made, that can do what the CoolIt Eco can do. It permanently removes that large block of heat that exists with every air cooled system, by transferring the CPU heat to the Rad, and the fans see it on it's way, very quickly, with no residual heat!
Russ
So it does have two fans already, I like it even more now. By the way the main purpose of shrouds is to reduce cavitation (fans in push/pull also help with this) on the surface of the radiator; it never occurred to me that they would also force more air through it.
Red_Maw,
It doesn't come with two fans. I ordered this one to replace the one that came with it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185058
After I removed the original fan, I put the Scythe on the rear of the cooler, pulling air out. The one I removed, I installed on the opposite side of the Rad, blowing air in. I run both at full speed, as that works the best. The motherboard controls are just too slow! makes a little more noise, but worth every Db! Be sure to set your CPU fan controller to disabled in the setup. That will give you full power to the fan. The rear Scythe, you can run from a MB header or a molex adapter. I prefer the Molex adapter myself.
The theory about being able to feel the heat at the fan is all wrong. You should feel heat when you have it under load, otherwise it wouldn't be working. It generates almost no heat when it's idling!
Russ
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14. May 2010 @ 16:21 |
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Sorry, I meant to say that it was designed to be used with two fans, not one (like the h50 iirc).
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Sorry, I meant to say that it was designed to be used with two fans, not one (like the h50 iirc).
Red_Maw,
I will say this, the fan I chose for the rear, works real well with the the stock fan moved to the front of the Radiator, in Push/Pull. The 70mm fan I stuck between the Pump body and the mount thumbscrews takes care of the motherboard temps, and my Video card is now back in the 16x slot, so I may go back and try for 4.0GHz again. First I've got to see how well it does when the outside temps go up to 105-110F. Typically, if it's 110F outside, we can maintain between 80 and 85F in the house. Even my room, which is air conditioned struggles a bit. This is a Typical post WWII house, without any insulation in the outside walls. I've managed a couple of heaters here, in a P4 3.0GHz Prescot, and a Pentium D 940, so I'm pretty sure the ECO will be up to the task with the 955BE!
Best Regards,
Russ
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yeah I know exactly what you mean; 80F is what I call the nightly low in the summer :( That's main reason I'm WC the cpu this year since it's barely surviving on air at stock right now.
Edit: Finally used more than 50% of my ram during "normal" usage XD
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
yeah I know exactly what you mean; 80F is what I call the nightly low in the summer :( That's main reason I'm WC the cpu this year since it's barely surviving on air at stock right now.
Edit: Finally used more than 50% of my ram during "normal" usage XD
Red_Maw,
It's got 8 cores?
what is it?
Russ
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It's got 8 cores?
what is it?
An i7 with HyperThreading enabled :P
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
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It's got 8 cores?
what is it?
An i7 with HyperThreading enabled :P
Yup. Starting to think I should use a normal sig like everyone else, no one tends to read the cpuz one (maybe because it's hard to see).
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Hyper threading eh. So in other words, fake cores :p :p :p
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
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It's got 8 cores?
what is it?
An i7 with HyperThreading enabled :P
Estuansis,
LOL!! Thanks! I haven't done much with Intel in quite a while, so I haven't really kept up with them. Most of the computers I work on are AMDs these days. Most of the Intel's I do see are laptops. I just sent two back to Mass, last week. A Dell 6000 and a Toshiba A105. My friend had taken them in to the "Geek Squad" at Best Buy, and they wanted $160 each, just to look at them! :(
Russ
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Haha I'm not much up-to-date on i7 either. I do know most of the basics about the platforms though and the general differentiations between the cores. Seems my luck ran out on the 6 Core Phenom II for now. Someone got the deal :(
Yeah most of my OCing history has been AMDs with some early Core 2s mixed in. Chips like Yorkfield and Penryn are beasts in comparison. I'm going to cling sheepishly to my good old Phenom II for a while :P
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Estuansis,
Sheepishly my Aunts fanny! I love my AMD! I've even been toying with the idea of buying a pair of XFX HD-4770s.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150369
$90 after $15 MIR. I would like to fool around with CrossFireX a bit, maybe play some games. LOL!!
Russ
O'Boy now your mentioning this now sense Sam is away of upgrading to newer cards, You know he would have alot to say on the issue of XFX Radeon cards his favor, Go for it Russ looks like a great deal on the cost;)
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go for it russ, dual 4770s are inbetween a 4850x2 and 4870x2, so between a 5850 and 5870, more near 5870 id say.
for such a cheap ammount, go for it!
AMD seem to be coming in hard in the notebook segment aswell.
and with bulldozer next year, hopefully they will bring the fight to the high end intel sandybridge.
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