Originally posted by bigwill68:

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Russ Wrote:

As far as the CPU fans go, I have a Scythe 1200 rpm, 68 cfm pulling air out of the back of the radiator, and the fan that came with it (63 cfm) pushing air into the front of the radiator. Here's the model Scythe!

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Thanks for the picts those are always helpfull in explanations. So did you overclock your graphics card and thus need and aftermarket cooler? I think I'll leave the heatsinks on the bridges for now since that seems like something I could mess up easily with no previous experience. I'm just waiting on an OS cd to show up and a scythe fan. After disabling the smart fan functions the temp dropped to 29 though I only let it run for a short period before shutting down the comp again.

Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Generally you turn off fan control for all of your case fans and leave the CPU fan on auto. The RC690 is a lower noise case so you can leave the fans cranked. The CPU cooler is much more likely to make noise.

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Generally you turn off fan control for all of your case fans and leave the CPU fan on auto. The RC690 is a lower noise case so you can leave the fans cranked. The CPU cooler is much more likely to make noise.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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To be fair, auto fan control really isn't a very good way of doing it for watercooling. At the most what you should have is a high and low speed, and temperature thresholds for each. Adjusting the fan speed on the fly will probably cause all sorts of havoc with speeds forever changing.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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The level of detail shouldn't improve by itself just by adding a new processor. However, if the games automatically adjust their settings it's conceivable that they will increase the detail level when the CPU changes. CPUs perform a variety of roles in games, the artificial intelligence of the allies/enemies, physics calculations for the visual effects, the primary functioning of the game at the base of it.

As for games that can be played with a mouse (presumably not a keyboard) there's all sorts really, fast-paced strategy games are obviously best avoided due to their reliance on hotkeys, but more lighthearted strategy games, or single players, age of empires being a reasonable example, will certainly be ok. Perhaps consider titles like the Black & White series, the Civilisation series, and for more action-oriented titles, Supreme Commander and Company of Heroes are worth a look, though the former carries a relatively steep hardware demand. There's also stuff like the RollerCoaster Tycoon series which I enjoyed a great deal.
Alternatively, for something a little different, there are the tower defense games Defense Grid and Sol Survivor (the former of which I think is more fun), which can be good fun, though perhaps enhanced when you have a group of mates you're competing for high scores with.
Away from strategy, there are also fun arcade-style games like Ricochet Xtreme, which is a modern adaptation of the arcade game Arkanoid. That's pretty enjoyable.
It may also be worth looking at stuff from casual games producer PopCap, in particular Plants vs. Zombies and Peggle are quite amusing.

Most importantly, there is a vast wealth of free flash games you can play in a web browser out there. Have a rummage through websites like ArmorGames, Kongregate and Miniclip, there's bound to be loads of stuff in there to enjoy.

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Most importantly, there is a vast wealth of free flash games you can play in a web browser out there. Have a rummage through websites like ArmorGames, Kongregate and Miniclip, there's bound to be loads of stuff in there to enjoy.

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Originally posted by 3kJodo:

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Thanks for the picts those are always helpfull in explanations. So did you overclock your graphics card and thus need and aftermarket cooler?

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Is true, though a lot of it is quite funny :P

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Originally posted by 3kJodo:

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So I recieved the scythe fan today tossed it on the cooler unfortunately I only have the 4 screws that came with the original so I split them 2/2 front/back turned on the comp pc health shows it at 24C which is schweet now I just need to get the OS installed and can finally get around to this OC dealy oh and find 2 more 3/8 screws
Hey they Theduff10 I just built my first computer which after rebates ended up approx 800 american dollars not sure how that converts to pounds or euros this doesn't take into account an OS or a HDD though and you could knock off a hefty bit of cash with a cheaper graphics card mine was 300 bones(wince). I did just score a 1TB seagate barracuda for 40 bucks after rebate which I just tossed in the case along with the scythe fan

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Originally posted by 3kJodo:

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So I recieved the scythe fan today tossed it on the cooler unfortunately I only have the 4 screws that came with the original so I split them 2/2 front/back turned on the comp pc health shows it at 24C which is schweet now I just need to get the OS installed and can finally get around to this OC dealy oh and find 2 more 3/8 screws
Hey they Theduff10 I just built my first computer which after rebates ended up approx 800 american dollars not sure how that converts to pounds or euros this doesn't take into account an OS or a HDD though and you could knock off a hefty bit of cash with a cheaper graphics card mine was 300 bones(wince). I did just score a 1TB seagate barracuda for 40 bucks after rebate which I just tossed in the case along with the scythe fan

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3kJodo,
The danger in only using 2 screws, is that you "NEED" 4 screws on the rear fan mount, as it's all that holds the radiator to the case, plus it will warp from the heat without being secure! It isn't very strong either! Take yourself to a hardware store and buy a couple of screws, and do it soon! Be sure to take one of the screws with you!

Russ

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Originally posted by Red_Maw:

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Adjusting fan speed on a rad works well from what I've been told, you just need to do it right, similar to adjusting case fans. Originally I was planning on getting a fan controller for mine but I figure if I have room to undervolt my fans I'll probably just raise the OC lol.

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Red_Maw,
I'm not arguing that adjusting the fan speed on a rad, doesn't work well. All I'm saying is that I don't recommend using the PWM controller on the motherboard to adjust it with the ECO. It seems to work well enough for Oman7 on his, but it doesn't on mine! A fan controller would be even worse, because you can't use voltage control to adjust a PWM fan! Doing that will ruin the fan, because it will burn out the electronics built into it. With PWM control the voltage remains constant, only the pulse width of the power is changed. The wider the pulse width, the faster the fan runs. Narrow the pulse width, and it slows down.

Russ

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Originally posted by Red_Maw:

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

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Red_Maw,
I'm not arguing that adjusting the fan speed on a rad, doesn't work well. All I'm saying is that I don't recommend using the PWM controller on the motherboard to adjust it with the ECO. It seems to work well enough for Oman7 on his, but it doesn't on mine! A fan controller would be even worse, because you can't use voltage control to adjust a PWM fan! Doing that will ruin the fan, because it will burn out the electronics built into it. With PWM control the voltage remains constant, only the pulse width of the power is changed. The wider the pulse width, the faster the fan runs. Narrow the pulse width, and it slows down.

Russ

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Didn't mean to come across as arguing, I agree completely in that PWM won't do a good job. Just wanted to state that it can be done well and effectively.

Never knew that adjusting the voltage of a PWM fan would ruin it, probably good to know (need to double check my fans now, they weren't cheap lol). Thanks Russ.

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