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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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25. June 2010 @ 13:10 |
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RCA audio is analog. Optical is digital, so you need an A:D converter, such as a surround receiver.
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25. June 2010 @ 21:55 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
RCA audio is analog. Optical is digital, so you need an A:D converter, such as a surround receiver.
Thanks sam; using the right keywords helped a lot.
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25. June 2010 @ 23:32 |
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Right I have a higher end 200W receiver that can use digital coax and optical, and can also output a digital or optical signal to analog RCA or direct wire(stereo cables in clamps). That IMO would be the best solution. Currently though I have a multi system selector box with everything plugged in for either RCA or optical then running to the receiver. Makes everything pretty simple to use. Just hit a switch and I have my consoles in RCA, my CD changer in optical, and my DVD player in optical as well. Hassle-free switching :D
Currently in the process of making my own extended length stereo jack cable to run my sound card through my Hi-Fi. Thank you Radioshack for the gold plated jacks :D
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26. June 2010 @ 00:13 |
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Jeff, you lucky SOB! Radioshack closed shop in this area. Apparently not enough business. Radioshack once upon a time used to be my first stop for anything electronic. Though newegg will suffice most the time now ;)
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26. June 2010 @ 05:39 |
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My old receiver cant use the optical outputs on my sound card. The sound card's other output (RCA jacks) go to my studio monitors so I had to use a piggyback cable to send a signal to my reciever as well as the monitors.
You cant see it in the bad pic i posted before but behind me are 3' floor speakers with 16" woofers to set off the crisp and clear monitors in front. It works well for music production and editing, having high to mid range in front and mid to low range in back.
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26. June 2010 @ 05:44 |
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Lol, and I thought a 10" subwoofer was overkill :P
Mind you, I'm not in music production really, I just mess around in FL studio, I'm not very good :P
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26. June 2010 @ 06:20 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Lol, and I thought a 10" subwoofer was overkill :P
Mind you, I'm not in music production really, I just mess around in FL studio, I'm not very good :P
Sam,
He could always go for the supreme overkill and get a pair of Klipschorns! Only about $8000 for the pair! :) Oh, and you need a little room!
From the Klipsch website:
DIMENSIONS:
52" (132.1cm) x 31.25" (79.4cm) x 28.5" (72.4cm)
WEIGHT:
167 lbs. (75.8kg)
Russ
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26. June 2010 @ 06:46 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Lol, and I thought a 10" subwoofer was overkill :P
For many situations it is but you just cant duplicate 1000watts being pumped through a speaker wedge like I encounter during live shows using 20watt 10" woofers. I've been adding much low end sound into the mix lately and 10's always punch well, but those bigger ones really seem to rumble at that frequency you feel in your stomach.
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26. June 2010 @ 06:53 |
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If you've got a room suitable for the acoustics. Even my speakers sound naff in my small bedroom compared to when setup in the larger living room that has better acoustics.
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26. June 2010 @ 07:37 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
If you've got a room suitable for the acoustics. Even my speakers sound naff in my small bedroom compared to when setup in the larger living room that has better acoustics.
Agreed, this correlates to the fact a properly constructed and ported speaker box can make a shoddy speaker sound great while a poor enclosure can make a great speaker sound like craaaaaaaaaaap.
I can't turn things up too loudly, being in the same general area as a basement furnace, my home's ductwork easily sends noise 2 floors up to the bedrooms.
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26. June 2010 @ 08:05 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
My old receiver cant use the optical outputs on my sound card. The sound card's other output (RCA jacks) go to my studio monitors so I had to use a piggyback cable to send a signal to my reciever as well as the monitors.
You cant see it in the bad pic i posted before but behind me are 3' floor speakers with 16" woofers to set off the crisp and clear monitors in front. It works well for music production and editing, having high to mid range in front and mid to low range in back.
Deadrum33,
Just a though as I don't know what motherboard you are using, but many that have on board sound have an SPDIF Out right on the motherboard. That would give you a Coax Digital output. Give a look-see in your motherboard manual. You can usually get the RCA plug with the plug for the motherboard that mounts in an empty case expansion port pretty cheap. Like I said, just a thought.
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Russ
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26. June 2010 @ 08:13 |
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He's got optical, but his receiver can't use it, which is presumably why he's using RCA.
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26. June 2010 @ 08:22 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
He's got optical, but his receiver can't use it, which is presumably why he's using RCA.
Sam,
I was under the impression that his sound card had RCA plugs, but I just went back and looked, and you are right. The RCA plugs on the sound card was what threw me. I can't remember ever seeing that on a computer. All I've ever seen is the 1/8" mini plugs, but his cables are RCA for sure, on both ends.
Russ
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26. June 2010 @ 08:58 |
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Coax S/PDIF plugs look the same as RCA plugs, so that's probably what you're seeing.
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26. June 2010 @ 12:22 |
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26. June 2010 @ 12:30 |
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Out of curiosity do you use the MIDI input on that card? If you do, what's the latency like?
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26. June 2010 @ 14:14 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Right I have a higher end 200W receiver that can use digital coax and optical, and can also output a digital or optical signal to analog RCA or direct wire(stereo cables in clamps). That IMO would be the best solution. Currently though I have a multi system selector box with everything plugged in for either RCA or optical then running to the receiver. Makes everything pretty simple to use. Just hit a switch and I have my consoles in RCA, my CD changer in optical, and my DVD player in optical as well. Hassle-free switching :D
Currently in the process of making my own extended length stereo jack cable to run my sound card through my Hi-Fi. Thank you Radioshack for the gold plated jacks :D
That was my ideal solution too, but finding a good receiver for ~50US (all I can afford to spend right now) is probably impossible :P
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26. June 2010 @ 14:32 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Out of curiosity do you use the MIDI input on that card? If you do, what's the latency like?
I bought the card specifically for midi interface supposedly superior to a USB BUS-powered interface. That being said, I have a Yamaha drum brain sitting here waiting to put it to use that hasn't left its box. I haven't had time to properly test it so I can't answer the question...YET
I can tell you from experience that playing edrums through a USB BUS-powered interface, you are required to play ahead of the beat just a bit, due to latency. My band at one time used a sampler/MIDI controller to drive edrums but that whole setup was a nightmare to take out to live shows.
Time to go watch USA vs Ghana WC foosball! Our coach changed a few starters for this round, lets see how that works.
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26. June 2010 @ 14:50 |
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Yeah, I'm thinking from two perspectives - input latency, and sound output latency. In order to prevent buffer under-runs in audio production (sound pop, stutter etc.) you need to increase the buffer length, typically to about 60-70ms with onboard audio. I'm looking for something that will reduce that, in addition to having minimal interface latency.
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26. June 2010 @ 19:06 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Yes, receiver only has RCA in/outputs no SPDIF or HDMI.
Heres what a card with no 1/8" jacks looks like
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...diophile%202496 and near field monitors to accompany.
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/MS20.aspx
Deadrum33,
Very nice! It's amazing what a well designed 10" Woofer can do. In fact it's amazing what a well designed surround system can do. This is what I have.
http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/son...7-31222306.html
I have two Wurlitzer virtual Theater Organs installed in my computer, a two manual model 216 and a three manual 260 and it can really shake the walls if I choose to. Let me put it this way, that "feel it in the pit of your Stomach" feeling you mentioned is very real! LOL!! You wouldn't want to be messing around with 16' and 32' Bass pipes on an empty stomach! LOL!! The power you command, playing the real thing is awesome. No other instrument comes close to it in Dynamic Range! Sounds awesome played through the Realtek ALC889A High Definition Audio, on my GigaByte motherboard.
Best Regards,
Russ
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26. June 2010 @ 22:41 |
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This is my receiver. Works quite nicely. Especially considering I just realized the fan in back has quit. No wonder the top could cook an egg! LOL!
Russ, I'm about to install the Eco. Is there anything about the backplate I should know? I guess I'll find out on my own soon enough, but your opinions would be appreciated ;)
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26. June 2010 @ 22:53 |
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Wow nice unit Omega. Get a new fan rigged in there :D
Russ, if the Realtek on your motherboard impresses you, a mid range sound card would blow your mind.
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26. June 2010 @ 23:09 |
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Thanks jeff. GM thought it was silly. Not so much the receiver, but the speakers I'm using LOL! It IS silly. I'll post a shot of them later. The important thing is, they work a lot better than people realize. The speakers I'm using, if they were still in their original box, had the potential to sound like decent 8" Midrange speakers. When I hook up my sub under my desk...Oh baby! You'd be surprised what it can sound like ;)
Just dusted my Haf932. I always forget how heavy it is LOL! 4 HDD's, 6 optical drives, etc. I believe it weighed in at 50-55 pounds once upon a time. I'll weigh it again later for my benefit at least. The poor tuniq had a lot of dust built up. Probably improved my temps. But I'll probably never know. The coolit will be installed within the hour :D
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27. June 2010 @ 01:15 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
This is my receiver. Works quite nicely. Especially considering I just realized the fan in back has quit. No wonder the top could cook an egg! LOL!
Russ, I'm about to install the Eco. Is there anything about the backplate I should know? I guess I'll find out on my own soon enough, but your opinions would be appreciated ;)
Oman7,
Your Mission, should You choose to accept it! LOL!! Nah, it's easy!
Pretty simple really. I just pulled the 4 screws that hold the plastic stock mount, and screwed the pump to it! I didn't do that until after I swapped the fans, and mounted the radiator, BTW! I didn't know if the stock backplate would move, but mine didn't. I didn't figure it could go any further than the tray anyway. I got one corner started, then went cross corner a couple of turns and did the same with the other! I did lay it on it's side so I didn't hear "Clank"! LOL!! Do the pump last, and leave the protective plastic on until you are ready to screw down the Pump/Heatsink. Couldn't have been easier!
Russ
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27. June 2010 @ 01:39 |
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So in yours and Will's opinion, I should use the Scythe for a pull fan, meaning that I need to have the stock coolit fan closest to the cpu? Which means that I need to move it from its stock position...
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