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64026402
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27. January 2005 @ 18:24 |
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Egypt322
The DVDs you have used are not my first choice, but the failure rate is more likely to be related to software.
You might try a free setup like DVDShrink with DVDdecypter to test the setup.
Intervideo DVDcopy3 also has a fully functional demo that does a good job.
Donald
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brobear
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27. January 2005 @ 20:44 |
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Donald
How does that old saying go, "don't argue with fools or they'll pull you down to their level and beat you to death with foolishness"?
The DVDCopy3 is a great program and a good trial to check out. All you need is a ripper. The program encodes and burns and the interface is intuitive and easy to use.
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joedrumma
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29. January 2005 @ 18:47 |
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Hey Brobear & Donald,
I'm back, un-muted and with an apology. Bro, I read your messages and realized that I wasn't thinking clearly about my issue with the "2X, 4X for data" issue. So, I did some experimenting. I updated my drivers, enabled DMA (I actually moved the drive over to a different computer, since I couldn't seem to enable DMA on the current machine) and lo & behold - the Ridata discs now burn at 4X! So, I stand corrected - a victim of my own hasty & false assumptions. Thanks for taking the time to read my posts and analyze them so thoroughly. You, and Donald, were correct. The discs are fine, it was a hardware issue, with a little "operator error" thrown in too!
Thanks again for your help.
Joe D.
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brobear
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29. January 2005 @ 19:15 |
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joedrumma
You're welcome. The more you putter around with recording media, the more you learn. It's a learning experience for everyone. No one started out knowing all there is about DVD recording. I'm still learning myself.
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Nick1981
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10. February 2005 @ 07:13 |
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I also got a bad batch of Ritek G04's the printable ones. This is not the first time I've used riteks/ridata because I've used over 200 Ritek dvd's before. This batch was pretty damn awful. I had to do so many burns that I didn't have time to check the dvd's out because well about 99.9999999% of the time when you burn a disc and store it away and keep it free of lint or scratches it's supposed to be alright. Well after going back and watching some movies later I notice that near the end or in the middle of the disc the movie stops and gets a disc error in every dvd rom I tried. There is no scratches on the disc and I can't extract them at all because they have uncorrectable errors. Now I'm pissed because I don't have those image files anymore and now There is a lot of movies I got no idea what happened at the end. I currently bought a batch of prodisc ,because prior to the last ridatas I bought the thermal printable prodiscs were very good with no errors and if they get a scratch they still play without being picky.
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64026402
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10. February 2005 @ 17:30 |
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Can you give the full ID for the Media. It would be good to know what we are dealing with.
I have used quite a few Ritek printables without incident. Although I did have to flash my older drives once for compatabilty.
Donald
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Nick1981
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10. February 2005 @ 19:03 |
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here is what dvd identifer gives me for media code:
** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Control Data Zone'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'CDZ'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 10h - Format Information Of Control Data Zone
0000 : 25 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 12 7f 00 00 00 00 %........&......
** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 96 0e 14 88 9a 80 00 .@....R.........
0010 : 03 52 49 54 45 4b 47 00 04 30 34 00 00 00 00 00 .RITEKG..04.....
0020 : 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 08 12 11 86 67 80 00 .............g..
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 19 0a 0b 09 01 00 ................
0040 : 09 99 05 0c 0b 80 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00 00 10 00 ................
0050 : 0b 04 1d 18 a8 88 85 00 0c 89 ac 88 80 00 00 00 ................
0060 : 0d 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ............
* These are the printable ridata Ritek G04's I've been talking about.
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64026402
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11. February 2005 @ 00:16 |
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They look like a normal Ritek 4x. You might try a drive flash. What was you burner?
Donald
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brobear
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11. February 2005 @ 00:27 |
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Nick1981
Did you check with your vendor's sales support? Ritek has a good guarantee. Usually it is no problem to get bad media replaced. Any manufacturer can have a bad run on a batch of media, including Ritek.
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Nick1981
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11. February 2005 @ 04:12 |
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I have the pionner a06 with firmware 1.7 . I did try the 1.8 firmware but then all my 2x dvd-rs could only be burned at 1x so I went back to fm 1.7 I emailed ritek and told them which store I bought the discs from and how much I paid and how many were screwed up. I'm still waiting on them to email me back.
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brobear
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11. February 2005 @ 11:12 |
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Which store was it? Wouldn't the store back up the guarantee or were they an unauthorized dealer?
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Egypt322
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14. February 2005 @ 02:12 |
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To date the only disks that seem to work for my burner are the Memorex DVD+RW and TDK+RW. I have tried just about all the types the stores in my area carry. I have lots of coasters. Now on burning problems with the new guards out? Super DVD Copy, plus the DVDshrinker to burn. Otherwise I just use CloneDVD 2 for them along with AnyDVD. But remember that AnyDVD does not work with the new movies protection. SO if you want to copy The new Resident Evil or The Forgotten or The little black book try SUper DVD Copy and DVD shrinker.
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brobear
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14. February 2005 @ 18:50 |
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Egypt322
Would you explain why AnyDVD was among the first, if not the first, to break the new encryption systems and also updates the program as any new encryption comes along. DVD Decrypter has been kept up to date as well. I'm interested in knowing why I was able to record all the movies you mentioned using AnyDVD. Interesting that I and a large number of other forum members were able to do it where you say it wouldn't work.
Sounds like you need to post in a hardware section instead of a media thread. It's a strange PC burner that is limited strictly to a +RW disc sold only by TDK and Memorex.
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Gr8tQlty
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15. February 2005 @ 09:03 |
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I bought 100 GQ DVDs a couple of weeks ago, for an after-rebate price of $19, making my cost $0.19 per DVD. They aren't worth that much. After burning through over 20 of them using various software, not a single one has burned successfully all the way to the end and then been playable all the way to the end. I've used products from other manufacturers with no problem - Sony, Fuji, Memorex. These DVDs have SERIOUS quality control problems. They seem to be usable near the center of the DVD, but about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way out, they just break down completely. I may be able to get some use out of them to backup small amounts of data, though I'm not sure I trust them even for that. Bottom line, stay away from this brand. "GQ" stands for Garbage Quality in my book.
Burnt with Memorex DVD+RW/+R External at 4x
Burning reliability is Poor.
PC reliability is Poor.
DVD reliability is Poor.
Media color is Black.
Media text is DVD-R2 K-403M4A06 1-1-2 0408012326- 23433.
Media package type is Cake Box. Number of discs 50.
Media made in Taiwan.
Media UPC/EAN code is 3906928.
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16. February 2005 @ 05:37 |
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Dear GQ quality user sorry you bought crap media atleast you did'nt spend to much for it - with most of your large electronics/computer stores selling name brand- Branded media at prices of .50 cents and under it pays to shop local - I recently picked up two packs of TDK dvd-r 2x media 15ct. ea. for 2.99 each granted 2x media will burn slow but for 20 cents a piece I can deal. I'm not saying you should buy 2x media I'm illustrating a point. You could alternatively shop NEWEGG.COm or Rima.com ect. as these two companies are rated highly & often have sales . Also perhaps this media was just not compatable with your burner here are some cdes for GQ mediaGQ (Great Quality) DVD+R 4x (AML-001-000)
GQ (Great Quality) DVD+R 4x (MEDIA ID001)
GQ (Great Quality) DVD+R 8x (OPTODISCOR8)
GQ (Great Quality) DVD+R 8x (PRODISCR03)
GQ (Great Quality) DVD+RW 2.4x (INFODISCA01)
GQ (Great Quality) DVD-R 4x (LEADDATA01..)
GQ (Great Quality) DVD-R 4x (PRINCO......)
GQ (Great Quality) DVD-R 8x (TYG02) ??FAKE??
I'm not knocking you I've bought off brand media too and learned not to . hope all your new burns are perfect and your error count is zero! = Peace & gooday
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weber3
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16. February 2005 @ 17:31 |
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Manufacturer : CMC
Code : CMC MAG E01
Disc Type : DVD+R
Usage : General
Recording Layer : -
Recording Speed : 4 X - 8 X
Capacity : 4.38 GB
4700375040 Bytes
Memorex 8x DVD+Rs
Lite-on 1633S BSOS Burner
Most of these DVD+Rs turned into coasters. I got a 30 pack spindle, and have used about half of them with little success on my standalone Toshiba DVD Player. Also, I tried Memorex 8x DVD-Rs (CMC) and the three that I have burned worked on my standalone.
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Egypt322
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18. February 2005 @ 02:38 |
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Yes I will explain Brobear,
There were 2 batches made of the Resident Evil 2. One batch had what has come to be known as Dummy files. I was one of the unlicky ones to purchase that Movie. I was going to make a copy for me Just in case. AnyDVD has not been able to read the dummy files. Disk makers are trying to get smart but just are not fast enough.
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Egypt322
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18. February 2005 @ 02:42 |
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Oh and Brobar, I said I have tried all the media types in my area. I live on a very small Island and there are not many shoppping stores here. I am not flying out of the island to get DVDs. They are not worth that much to me.
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18. February 2005 @ 09:12 |
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Dear EGYPT I understand you situation but could'nt you order online ? you do get mail service /UPS & fed EX on your island ? that way you could get whatever brand media you want! although I'm not sure what the shipping cost would be that's athought anyway! OR you could go to the merchant who sells the media you use now and ask them to order a better brand! If you got several friends together and ordered in bulk he may just do it. Again I'm sorry for your predicamentbut when life sends you a problem it also sends a solution ! hope I sparked your imagination to solve this one good luck on your solution -chin up be brave & fight the good fight - PEACE
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MooreBaby
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19. February 2005 @ 03:45 |
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Media: ProDisc printable
Merchant: SuperMedia.com
Media code/Manufacturer ID:PRODISC R03
Media Product Revision Number:03h
No complaints with Supermedia other than phone wait times to ask for RMA are long... After burning a spindle of 100 without any burn errors (8x HP530i) some discs turned up unwatchable. After scanning all discs just for surface defects, I found more than 25% (and counting) with major defects rendering disc unusable.
The next shipment from Supermedia came with OptoCrap substituted. They are not printable to the hub but so far have burned without surface defects. I've only burned about 30 so far though.
The phone personnel have said that the ProDisc item is no longer in stock, though their website has never reflected this and continues to let you place orders which will be backordered and/or canceled so beware.
After talking with them on the phone I get the impression they have identified a problem. They claim they have "no information from the manufacturer as to when more will be available", whatever that means.
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brobear
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22. February 2005 @ 17:17 |
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Egypt322
At least you have a computer, electricity and the internet. The media issue might be something you want to take to the media section. It would be a strange burner that is limited to only 2 particular discs and those RW. Some disc manufacturers have preferred burner apps, but I've found if the software and burner are decent and the media is compatible, then a decent recording isn't highly dependent on an individual program.
I'm not sure of the media you're getting on the island, I'd advise getting a copy of the freeware DVDInfoPro and run a test on some of the blank media, or any good disk utility that will check the condition of recording media.
On the subject of RE2, the Disk makers have little to do with being able to back up the DVD. They supply the media, but it is up to the decrypters, transcoders, and burners to backup the DVD. I happen to own RE2 with the unreadable sector (dummy files) encryption. I wasn't aware the studio released a version without the structural encryption. Most everyone on the forum has talked about the one with unreadable sectors. AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter both broke the encryption on this disc. I had no problem ripping it to the hard drive. This was the only movie I've had to cause DVDCopy3 to mess up for the backup. Using RB/CCE to encode, the backup was no problem. RE2 was problematic, but with the right software, the backup was doable and AnyDVD and DVD Decrypter played a key role in doing the job.
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I used the same DVD software on both Apollo DVD Copy. I take it it is not the software but the media?
On review, Im curious about that statement. "I used the same DVD software...", what was the same DVD software? "... on both Apollo DVD Copy", and what? That statement was confusing. Irregardless, I would advise downloading a trial of another program and give it a try to see if another program would do a better job. DVDCopy3 from InterVideo (not good for RE2) or CloneDVD2 from Slysoft, the same company that sells AnyDVD are 2 good programs with trials. Recode2 in the Nero trial is another. DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink along with CopyToDVD or Nero as the burner is a good setup. You can try something a bit easier to record than RE2 or one of the other structurally encrypted movies. I've used DVDCopy3 on Little Black Book (unreadable sectors) and others and had no problem like the RE2.
I've never heard of this Apollo program. Also, trying to record some of the structurally encrypted movies can be tricky. SUper DVD Copy and DVD shrinker (guess you were referring to DVD Shrink) are both transcoders, so why use both. Also, you need a burner program to go along with the Shrink unless you're saving the file and burning with Super DVD Copy. Other than the CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD combo, and DVD Shrink, I was unfamiliar with the other programs you mentioned, and I've been around for a while. I'm starting to wonder if the problem might not be software related as well.
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nightborn
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25. February 2005 @ 15:36 |
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ProDisc
code: F01
Merchant: Sprint Computers
Problem: all discs burn fine, however, none of them can access any of the data past 3G. Tried many spindles all the same.
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brobear
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25. February 2005 @ 16:05 |
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Are you talking about recording data or video? How much data does the PC say you burned to the discs? If you're not making a good burn, see if the burner needs a firmware update. Check the firmware irregardless, I've seen it do some strange things.
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nightborn
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25. February 2005 @ 16:11 |
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Doesnt matter what I burn, movies will stop playing at the 3G mark, and any data after that point is not readable and will usually hang up the player. I recently got some Fuji (ProdiscF01) and they work fine. I really cannot figure that out. I posted that in another thread.
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brobear
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25. February 2005 @ 16:26 |
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Use DVDInfopro (freeware), put one of the discs in question in and run a media test. The Icon with the magnifying glass starts the necessary test. See if you have errors on the graph corresponding to the space on the disc. Also, check to see if the burner firmware is up to date.
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