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13. March 2005 @ 14:07 |
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i have been to many computer shows and the stuff that most of the vendors sell is crappy.i stick to media that i buy that is name brand.now that regular media is becoming dirt cheap,why not go out and buy media from a store...
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64026402
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13. March 2005 @ 14:14 |
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The point about price is valid. There is no need to sweat price on DVDs. The problem is the name brand on the shelf are not always an indication of origin.
The stores around here are still selling for 3 times the internet price for quality media also.
Newegg and Rima.com do a good job for a good price and I don't have to make another trip to the store.
Donald
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ScubaBud
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13. March 2005 @ 14:33 |
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Some of this I stated before but added some other information to update my media posts.
Burners:
Asus DRW-1604P 16X +/- Write
OptoRite DD0203 4X +/- Write
I Love:
Sony DVD-R 8X "SONY08D1" Rated at 16X - Burn at 8X.
Sony DVD+R 8X "SONYD11" Rated at 16X - Burn at 8X.
I have burned both of the above at 16X just to test and they were flawless, but it only saved a couple of minutes since my burner starts at 8X then cranks to 16X after a minute or so.
Bottom line: I got my kicks by testing my burner and media twice, satisfied my curiosity, then went back to 8X burns.
I Hate:
Memorex DVD-R 4X "ProdiscS03" Playback problems on some DVD Players and some DVD-ROM drives.
CompUSA DVD-R "PRINCO" Burns with compression cause many glitches, shutters, and sometimes makes one think you just entered into a confetti convention with all the pixels flying everywhere! Also Playback problems with some DVD Players and some DVD-ROM drives.
And that's my final answer!
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brobear
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13. March 2005 @ 14:58 |
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Donald
I suffer from a similar problem; limited choices and the media available on the shelves is overpriced. BestBuy and some of the other reasonable sales outlets are only available in the larger cities. Those companies also have websites, which I use.
Locally, about the only store within reason is Wal Mart and they are still overpriced compared to net sales. Memorex (which I no longer use), Sony, TDK, and Verbatim are about the extent of the name brands. They have some of the "no name" merchandise I wouldn't touch. You see the predicament. So, I'll buy some Verbatim, TDK, or Sony to fill in, but my bulk orders will continue to be from the net.
For those lucky enough to be near stores with reasonable prices for good media, there's no reason not to buy it locally. After all, if it's the same brand, the media you get from the net is the same you get locally. Also, if one takes in to account the cost of shipping; a few bucks more for a local purchase can still end up being cheaper for a comparable item. So, the advisability of buying local or from the net just depends on the circumstances one finds themself in. Guess I was just stating the obvious, most of us just want the best bang for our buck.
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13. March 2005 @ 15:53 |
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20. March 2005 @ 09:44 |
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why oh why when i got into this dvd burning lark did i get swayed by the bulkpaq 8x orange tubs of 25 (from www.ebuyer.com in the uk). I bought and burnt literally 100s of the things, now nearly every one i go to watch, skip. before anyone posts 'use decent media' - i do now, have been for quite a while - Verbatim datalifeplus 8x burnt at 4x. My point is the bulkpaq's have media code 'tyg02' which (some months ago) i found where fake crap.
One of these days i guess i'll have to go thru whole collection and redo any bulkpaq's on proper media (from the original discs of course, not from the orange crap).
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20. March 2005 @ 11:04 |
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Brobear - Once again well said I agree with your reasoning solid logic there . Also as you know so well online can be cheaper or not - as long as we stick with established retailers and quality media . like our fellow gentle reader I too purchased what I thought was a bargain on some ultran 4 X DVD-R media - that was an early & midly expensive mistake . I chalked up to lack of knowledge and like our friend and so many others moved on to branded media from major mfrs. and read everything I could both in print & online and especially the postings here on Afterdawn.com along the way I have been helped by many friends -such as yourself, BBMayo- , Scuba Pete and many many other new friends too numerable to mention although I thank you all.Sometimes you can find deals on media at the Local SAMSCLUB particular if they are down to the last few - they put them on the closeout rack sometimes . Or as you have said you can always order online from established vendors or any vendor of good repute - just use your credit card in case there are problems. Oh well BroBear & friends thankyou again for helping us all out . Peace & blessings to everyone BYe now
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20. March 2005 @ 21:03 |
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BIGTOXY69
You're welcome and thanks for the compliment.
Creaky,
You weren't the only one burned. A lot of people bought the fake TY and it's still going on.
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puchasr
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29. March 2005 @ 12:34 |
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Hello, Im using memorex dvd-r to copy my DVD's and they work fine on some dvd players(cyberhome, ps2) but not in others(samsung)why is that? Using dvd+r makes any difference?
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ScubaBud
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29. March 2005 @ 12:55 |
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My Samsung DVD-ROM and also a portable 8" DVD Player I have will not play Memorex DVD-R 4X media code ProdiskS03. My Sony media plays in everything I own. Welcome to the wonderful world of Memorex, the most widely disliked media here on aD.
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29. March 2005 @ 13:05 |
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Dear Purchasr
any dvd player made in say the last coupleof years should play your (back ups) movies just fine . Well almost some players usually the the older ones sometimes have problems playing dvd-r/dvd+r recorded media . Newer units will usually play either format DVD-R or DVD+R and sometimes even video cd and super video cd formats as well. I don't think switching to DVD+R will make a difference in wheher or not your players will playback your disc -unless your player is a stand alone DVD RECORDER most of which are DVD+R only but that usually just affects the record function so even then DVD-R disc should playback on your DVD stand alone . If as I mentioned your stand alone recorder is + only you will not be able to record DVD-R media on that unit naturally. But that is not really what you are talking about . Your issue is as I reembered compatabiliy so I will narrow ddown the focus here. For maximum compatiblity with both old & new dvd players I would stick with a Good DVD-R media for my recordings! as the DVD-R format still has a slight edge in that area! Alternatively uou could try another brand of media & or recording your backups at a slower speed or both .some players just don't like certain media sometimes - And I understand we often buy what's on sale media wise and that is okay but sometimes you might get a small quantity of the media you want to use first to try for compatability testing. What good is getting a great deal if the media you bought won't play on your players . to keep it simple - Use DVD-r Media if you are going to use the movie in different /multiple players or exchange them back & forth with family . If you are just making backups for yourself and your players do just fine with dvd+r media and you have some or get a good deal on some then use whatever you want , Hope I was'nt too confusing my friend good luck & happy burning peace
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30. March 2005 @ 11:52 |
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Don't know if this thread is still active, but I just had a bad experience with my media. Sort of!
Not that it was a whole spindle or anything but last night when I tried to burn a dvd, I got 3 bad discs. I am letting you know this because I use Memorex media. I have since before then, have burn 200+ successful movies that have played on 20 different dvd players.
But I will continue to use them, despite the critism and will continue to have GREAT success with them, and I do have great success with them, both with CMC AND the other version. If anyone wants more clarification, or would like to see the test results please see the "Memorex" thread that is listed in aD.
Have a good one!
"From now on we are poison to you Spider-man...Thats why we call ourselves... VENOM"
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brobear
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30. March 2005 @ 12:18 |
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Thanks for sharing that with us venomX05. The thread is still alive, it just gets a bit quiet sometimes. If CMC makes you happy, no one is going to try to make you change your mind. Hopefully, you live in a free market society. However, as you have noticed, even with your buddies, you're in the minority.
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I could care less what you say about them, and/or how you feel.
That probably sums up how people feel about your statement when they read about how you feel about Memorex. So, why bother?
What brand and models were the 20 different DVD players? Nah... doesn't really matter. Memorex would have to pay me to use their brand again. I can only afford 2 dvd players and my small allowance sure won't let me buy 200+ movies. I guess I'm in the wrong income bracket to test things the way you have.
Have a good day.
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30. March 2005 @ 13:16 |
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No...it's not that Brobear, it is just the fact, that I jokingly make comments about how TY sucks, and some people around here take me seriously.
I can accept your opinion, but just wanted to voice what I had to say, before people jump down my throat. I don't have a problem with anyone, nor was my intention to be rude, I just didn't think that comments like
Memorex sucks ass
Memorex blows
Memorex is crap compared to TY
Stuff like that is ridiculous, because I feel that I should be entitled to my opinion and not have to have someone jump down my throat about it.
Like I said, it isn't meant to be directed, I just don't feel any name bashing is necessary because we all know that there are ALOT more popular brands out there than Memorex and nobody, but a few of us uses them.
I don't know if you are trying to be sarcastic about your last paragraph, but it doesn't matter. If need be, I could list the names, if you really want me to, if you don't that is fine, because I think that you are misinterpreting what I am saying.
But with that, I just wanted to post what I had as a bad experience, and will leave you all to comment on yours.
Have a good day!
:P
"From now on we are poison to you Spider-man...Thats why we call ourselves... VENOM"
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dlc2000
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30. March 2005 @ 13:22 |
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i dont get it ! why even post if you could careless about what anyone has to say in a reply to your comments ? i wont comment on your media as thats what you want . i could careless about your bad media experience . one useless post deserves another .
are you trying to provoke a argument here ? thats what your post seems like . what exactly is the purpose of your post ? i mean if you could careless than why waste your time posting ? i just dont get this post at all !!!!
what do you want us to do ? read and not reply as you could careless anyhow ?
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30. March 2005 @ 13:25 |
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There you go.
BTW...I don't start arguments! But other people love to!
"From now on we are poison to you Spider-man...Thats why we call ourselves... VENOM"
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30. March 2005 @ 18:46 |
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PERSONALLY!!!I think everybody is getting off track with all the little petties.I personally thought these forums were to help each other?Maybe I'm wrong!
But myself,I like to hear about bad & good media.I've tried & used a lot of different media,and had my fair share of good & bad experience with them all.
I CONTINUALLY CHECK THESE FORUMS FOR THAT REASON!!!
If I see others having problems with the same media I'm using.Well maybe something is wrong!So it's time to change for a bit.I've recently had problems w/stamped RIDATA.Seem the last 3 fifty packs I've opened the first 3 Discs were bad in all 3 bundles.
Before that it was Prodiscs,when they changed manufacturers.now I'm useing Ty's cause everybody seems to think they are good.Who really knows for sure? Unless u try,and pay heed to these here forums.I'm thankful to all who post.Just seem everybody tells YA how bad something is,but they don't seem to tell Ya what they are useing now.When I posted about bad Prodisc experience,I also posted a quick fix for their temperary set-back.I just had to reduce the Disc size by 300 meg.I got some appreciative feed-back.It's good we talk!!THANKS All
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30. March 2005 @ 19:16 |
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Thank you rick, couldn't have said it better myself. I also personally think that most should here bad and good, but for other to sit there and say stuff about Memorex is childish. I agree that you are right, bad experience with media DOES happen. And as a matter of fact, I know of several instances where TY disc haven't been successful, but I don't think they are stated here. But they are still good to use. I like my Memorex's and I think that I just get good sets of them.
BTW...your not wrong, the forums are definately helpful. There are just some people who don't understand things sometimes when explained. But that's ok. It's good that the TY are working well for you, hopefully they will continue to do so!
Hope to see you around in another thread!
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"From now on we are poison to you Spider-man...Thats why we call ourselves... VENOM"
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30. March 2005 @ 19:33 |
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1. Would any aD Addict that believes Memorex Media should be recommended please raise your hand by posting here.
2. Would any aD Mod that believes Memorex Media should be recommended please raise your hand by posting here.
3. If any person that believes that 97% successful burn rate is good enough for media that costs even more then the higher quality media with a 100% successful burn rate please raise your hand.
OK, Venom you can put your hand down now on question three! LOL
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dlc2000
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30. March 2005 @ 19:34 |
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ritek has been having quality issues . ritek claims that a firmware update resolves compatibility issues with the G05 dye . i have not tried any of this media lately as many users here at AD have reported high coaster rates .
was there any visible defects on the disc's that were bad ? it seems odd that the first 3 disc's in 3 different spindles are bad . have you tried getting a refund ? i wonder if some thing is going wrong during the manufacture process thats causing the first three disc's to be bad ? here is a little info on ritek media . http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/6243.cfm
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30. March 2005 @ 19:45 |
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@ScubaBud
Oh hahah....very funny....and where have been hiding?
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30. March 2005 @ 21:02 |
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brobear
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31. March 2005 @ 06:58 |
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@venomX05
Prodisc and CMC are the issue with Memorex. CMC is the manufacturer that gave Memorex the bad name. Prodisc hasn't done much to improve it. Other brands sell CMC manufactured media; i.e. Verbatim, Imation, Philips, Samsung, Speer, and Sunstar. However, Memorex is the only one I'm aware of that was/is selling the CMC manufactured media across their entire line. Some brands like Verbatim will only have it as a less expensive part of their line. There is quite a difference between the Datalife-CMC and the DataLifePlus with the AZO dye (Mitsubishi and TY).
As far as the quality of CMC, it is lacking in comparision. The physical aspect is obvious. The CMC I got in Memorex was poorly finished around the outer edge. That's the important area of a disc, where the layers are connected. Meaning, they didn't take time to put on the finishing touches as well as other brands. Also, the coaster rate was a bit high. 3 or 4 failed burns out of a small 15 spindle pack. You're looking at 20% or so failure there. Enough failures that I don't want to purchase any more and I placed them on the "questionable" list. With everyone else bad mouthing CMC, I figure something is up. When Memorex gets a rep as a good media, I might try it again. At one time I was fond of Memorex, but that was when they were selling products by companies like Ricoh, Philips, Ritek, and Mitsubishi.
Note I didn't say "Memorex Sucks". I did say "Memorex (CMC) quality is questionable".
You don't need to list the drives compatible with Memorex; those should be listed somewhere. Out of curiosity, where did you come up with "20 different" DVD players to check your media against? I have several friends and acquaintances, but I don't feel comfortable enough with all of them to invite myself over to use their video equipment. I don't work for an electronics store that carries "20 different" brands; even the big stores don't carry that many. If I was rich enough, I don't think I would have "20 different" DVD players in the mansion. I'd probably buy them all from the same supplier. You can see how some numbers lend themself to being questioned. Now if you were an employee in the lab at Consumer's Digest, then I might see "20 different" players setting around there, maybe.
Hmmm... Sarcasm? Glad you caught that. There was just a touch. As you know, you did come off a bit rude. As I've been accused of being brusque lately, I didn't want to come right out and say anything of that sort. Since someone else pointed it out to you and you realize you did it, then you may see why I might add a touch of sarcasm.
And if you're looking for an argument, kindly go eleswhere. I've been attacked by juvenile delinquents and some obvious fools here on AD and it will be a while before I have the extra energy for any confrontations. You seem to have stirred up some other members, so if you're looking for an argument, feel free to argue with someone that wants to.
Have a nice day!
;)
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31. March 2005 @ 07:04 |
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You have a nice day as well!
;)
"From now on we are poison to you Spider-man...Thats why we call ourselves... VENOM"
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31. March 2005 @ 07:10 |
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Nephilim,
Interesting... Just had a snack with flapjacks and beans. May end up being gas powered. LOL
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