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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.
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brobear
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13. March 2005 @ 15:29 |
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@jdobbs,
The couple of tests I ran with the SP 2.70 trial with the quality precedence set to 24 turned out good and I didn't notice any flaws running at 3 passes. The last test I ran, the DVD content was about 7.9GB. So, there was ample compression to cause problems if there was going to be any.
I was under the impression that due to the change in scales in the CCE programs, a precedent setting of 24 for SP 2.70 is the same as 16 for the SP 2.67. That was the impression I got from a previous post. If I have it wrong, then should the quality precedent setting be 16 for both SP 2.67 and 2.70?
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jdobbs
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13. March 2005 @ 16:49 |
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What you are saying is true -- but you would still set it to 16 in DVD-RB no matter what version you are using. DVD-RB would then interpret that and insert a 24 into the .ECL for SP v2.70 (also for SP v2.50, and Basic 2.69 which has a 0-100 scale as well).
It really doesn't have as much impact as some might think. If you set it to 24 it would interpret to 37 on a scale of 0-100 which is still reasonable.
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HKT3020
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13. March 2005 @ 19:17 |
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@ jdobbs
Yep, still talking about the Spidey 2 Bonus disc here. I would just leave it alone with Shrink or DC3 but the results weren't as I hoped it to be, menu looked a bit jagged in my opinion. You are right about the ILVU clips though, I came across that when browsing the DVD through Remake. This is the only disc that is giving me this problem, other than that all my encodes work perfect. Also I like to add a big thank you on releasing DVDRB .77PR, I also caught your little added txt file so expect a donation soon. ;-)
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Datman
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16. March 2005 @ 15:44 |
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sorry if the answer is here already but I missed it.
I bought this program based on this forum's praise of it . Now if I can get it to work.
I think it is all set up right but the path to decoder the only path that will work is the one to EclCCE for the trial.
It is processing now , who knows if it will work
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brobear
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16. March 2005 @ 16:42 |
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I bought this program based on this forum's praise of it.
Interesting... RB is free and you only are asked to make a donation if you want to support development. CCE is the only initial cost if one buys CCE Basic. The new SP trial doesn't use eclCCE (only SP trials work with RB, the Basic trial times out). CCE SP trials prior to 2.70 use eclCCE.
So, if you stated the situation properly, then what you're doing should NOT work. eclCCE points to the trial CCE encoder, not the decoder. Where you have the path to the CCE, the path would be to the eclCCE execute file which works the CCE SP trial. The decoder path should point to the decoder plugin in the Avisynth folder, something like dgdecode or mpegdec3. Post your configuration folder from the Rebuilder folder and we may be able to see what you did. Also, it would be handy to know what versions of the software you used to install RB/CCE.
Normally one waits to see if a program fails before commenting on setup; not while it's still running. Sort of a waste of time if it works. Which it won't, unless you stated the situation incorrectly.
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wild77
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16. March 2005 @ 20:28 |
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Nolos
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18. March 2005 @ 15:25 |
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Great Bro, another positive responce. Thankfully you are not the marketing manager for the product.
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jdobbs
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18. March 2005 @ 16:04 |
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@datman
You may want to try the Rockas Installer and install the public release. After it is done you can just copy the latest REBUILDER.EXE (assuming you have the Pro version) file into the rebuilder directory.
Are you using CCE, QuEnc, HC, or ReJig?
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18. March 2005 @ 16:39 |
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Nolos
You're right thankfully he isn't the marketing manager!
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Thankfully you are not the marketing manager for the product.
Marketing manager product?
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brobear
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18. March 2005 @ 17:03 |
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Nolos
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Thankfully you are not the marketing manager for the product.
I am not the marketing manager for the product, though I am a proponent of the RB app.
I merely pointed out there is no purchase of trialware in the case of the CCE SP trial. Also, one doesn't purchase the RB to use with it. Though jdobbs I am sure appreciates the donations to help keep the development going. I was also kind enough to point out that according to what was posted, the setup needed to be changed. All in all, an informative post. I don't believe one needs to act like another's mother to post on the forum.
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Great Bro, another positive responce.
And another of your snide little remarks. If you have a problem with what I say, report it to a mod. Otherwise, we don't need your little remarks about what who says and when. Get a life.
When they make you a mod, then you can start trying to control the forums. We get back on track and someone like you jumps in and accomplishes what you're accusing me of.
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18. March 2005 @ 17:32 |
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Just like brobear said, we're all proponents of RB. Marketing managers we're not.
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Nolos
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19. March 2005 @ 07:40 |
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Quote Brobear:
I don't believe one needs to act like another's mother to post on the forum.
Great then dont speek to people like you are.
In this thread alone, as I have not read any others, I have seen at least five people make comment about the manner of your responces, I have seen only one of them continue to post. Dont you think you should take note of that?
Thats one quarter of new posters complained and left.
I dont have to be a mod to be concerned about that.
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brobear
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19. March 2005 @ 07:53 |
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Nolos
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19. March 2005 @ 08:40 |
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The words you use and your manner above only serve to prove my point.
In regards to Prec scales, I tested different configurations for five days, 6 passes does indead make a difference, as does the outcome when changing to 24 from 16. Thats my opinion. However if you feel my testing efforts are bordering on anal and usless, then that is your opinion.
I dont have a problem with your opinion, only your words and your manner.
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brobear
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19. March 2005 @ 08:56 |
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Nolos
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19. March 2005 @ 09:27 |
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Quote Brobear:"I believe I'll take his word over yours.
Then you should read everything he says,
Quote jdobbs: "I've found that the 16 setting is best for most encoding sessions".
And the other "posts" "contradicting" my findings were?
you realy should read more closely.
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brobear
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19. March 2005 @ 09:41 |
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19. March 2005 @ 11:22 |
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According to the CCE manual, Sophocles, Doc
Doc and I started this thread. In a conversation with Donald (64026402) I'd described an idea about creating the thread and Doc of course ever the lurker read it and reminded me of the conversation and suggested that we start it. Doc and I discussed its content and purpose in detail and after having floated a few ideas past each other we posted it. We had to get the timing right so that Doc's FAQs followed the intro.
If you guys took a minute to be social you might find that you have more in common than not, but if you both need to continue this debate then I'm donating www.dvdhounds.com for the stage.
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19. March 2005 @ 11:41 |
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The CCE manual makes it clear that nothing is gained with more than 4 passes.
As a long time user and supporter of RB/CCE, early contributor, and one of the first people in this thread I would agree with that statement.
I haven't subscribed to this thread in a while because I got tired of repeating myself to people who insisted on using trial versions and cracked versions, lying about what versions they're using, and then couldn't understand why they were having problems when all they had to do was get CCE Basic and all problems would be solved. Instead they blamed the Rebuilder app or some other ridiculous reason. My hat goes off to guys like Doc, Sophocles, brobear, Donald, and the rest for your tenacity and staying with it.
Since then jdobbs has gone considerably out of his way to accomodate these people not to mention rockas' considerable contributions for setup.
But the fact remains that CCE Basic only uses 2 passes. I have compared that to 4 passes with CCE SP and if there is any difference, it is barely minimal. I have made these comparisons on side by side split screen at 300% magnification.
I think we can safely say RB/CCE is the best app out there period for compression and talking anything over 4 passes is entirely for debate purposes. To argue whether 4 or 6 or 10 passes with CCE makes a difference is ludicrous.
Nolos, please let it drop and let the thread get back on track.
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19. March 2005 @ 11:54 |
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the CCE manual makes it clear that nothing is gained with more than 4 passes.
All that the extra passes really do is to more effectively distribute bit rates to maximize video motion and space. If you're creating a new DVD type 5 from scratch then go for it. But if you're compressing a commercially made type 9 then after a couple of passes, all the extra passes become increasingly less effective, and a waste of time. When you're compressing video, especially by as much as 30% or more, something has got to go, you can't keep it all.
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brobear
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19. March 2005 @ 12:01 |
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Ever the little lightning rod... I wasn't even the first to mention much of this. No need to further anything on http://www.dvdhounds.com . RB Prec settings: 16 good, 24 acceptable with little impact, and more than 4 CCE passes of no use. Other than that, Nolos doesn't like me. That pretty much sums things up. Nothing is likely to change unless jdobbs and CCE makes some drastic changes to their programs.
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tijgert
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19. March 2005 @ 12:09 |
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Hi fellas, this is the perfect topic for my situation, please bare with me.
Relevant setup: DVD Rebuilder 0.77, CCE SP Trial 2.70.02.
I read that this DVD-RB / CCE combo doesn?t mix too well.
Stubborn and in for a test as I am I experimented with this setup to see just how instable it is.
I was away for a week, so I just put some Stargate DVD's in the cue and let it churn the butter, see if and where where it slips up.
DVD one went just fine, but it choked on DVD two.
This is odd since the layout and structure of both the DVD?s are practically identical, just different episodes.
The following pics tells it all. Please advise.
The log can be found here -> http://www.xs4all.nl/~eikelman/temp/rebuilder.txt
Please advise.
System specs: XPPro, NTFS, XP-M@2,4GHz (200x12), 1024MB, dozens of gigs free.
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19. March 2005 @ 12:11 |
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bigo
You've been a major contributing member to this thread right from the beginning. It wouldn't have worked without you. brobear might have joined in late but he too has helped keep this thread going.
Hmm! I was looking forward to the dvdhounds challenge. Oh Well! Better luck next time.
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19. March 2005 @ 12:21 |
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tijert
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I read that this DVD-RB / CCE combo doesn?t mix too well.
RB/CCE has been the modality for many of us. It?s the trial versions and cracked versions that have caused most of the problems, especially in setup. I?ve noted that your source file is D:\. Are you trying to do it on the fly from your D:\drive to your F:\drive? Here?s some simple advice. Rip the movie to your hard disk using DVD Decrypter in file mode. If you?re trying do batch encoding then read the second post on this thread which has a guide.
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19. March 2005 @ 12:43 |
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I read that this DVD-RB / CCE combo doesn?t mix too well.
WHHAATTT?????
I don't know where you read that, but nothing could be further from the truth. There is no better combo IMHO.
Soph is spot on with his analysis, it looks like your trying it from your drive instead of a folder with your decrypter rip. You're talking 3-4 hours processing time, far too long to get a consistant read from your drive.
Also, I noticed you're using trial version of CCE SP, again, that's where all the problems come in. You'll never have problems with a purchased version of CCE Basic. Have you tried Rockas' installer?
One other thing, are you trying to use batch process from your drive?
Soph, thanx for the compliment but I'm afraid I just don't have your patience,LOL.
GO VOLS !
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