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20. July 2008 @ 01:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
THATS your computer?

No wonder you think 50 dollar fan controller is nothing...
no, that's not bigwills. he doesn't have asus striker II formula. will must have copied and pasted that from somewhere else.

mrk44,

I think you are getting bogus readings for core 0 and core 1. core 2 and core 3 appear to be right on par with what mine were under load at stock clock (2.66). have a gander. keep in mind, both these utilities figure the TJ Max at 105c as does your coretemp utility.




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That's a nice photo but it doesn't match your earlier discussions and descriptions of your stuff. Why would someone who prefers playing consoles and advocates a $70 graphics card water cool their GPU? It wouldn't make a difference because no amount of overclocking a $70 GPU can make it match a $150 graphics card GPU without additional cooling.

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Yeah, except it's a GTX280 in the pic. Mort is right, Will just wants to showcase what his ultimate idea of a neat and clean computer would be :)


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mort: I think you're right...my core 0 is 14C higher than yours and my core 1 is 6C less lol. Either I should get a new cooler, or my temps are just bs.

If anybody has any cooling alternatives or suggestions, please share because I'm desperate here...and if anybody knows any places/people who can help me out in the LA area, let me know....

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MRK, I would RMA it if I were you.

While we are at it, I thought I would post a pic of my case! Just a LITTLE bit messy. Yes, those are corsair PSU boxes in the background. I need to clear out the crap from my last few builds. I've got video card boxes lying around in my room too. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with my Laptop.



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abuzar: RMA the cooler or the CPU? Because the most I can do with the CPU is use the manufacturer warranty because I bought it from fry's for $250 w/ gift card, not newegg. I can RMA the cooler though, if that's what you're talking about. But to be honest, that thing only cost me about $37, so it's probably not worth it.

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mrk44,

I would be leaning more towards a temp sensor problem with your cpu.

abuzar,

I wish I could take a pic of your empty case with one of my modular corsair 620HX PSU's in it. wouldn't be near the mess. ;) ;)

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Originally posted by Sophocles:
bigwill68

That's a nice photo but it doesn't match your earlier discussions and descriptions of your stuff. Why would someone who prefers playing consoles and advocates a $70 graphics card water cool their GPU? It wouldn't make a difference because no amount of overclocking a $70 GPU can make it match a $150 graphics card GPU without additional cooling.
it's not mine computer it's friend of mine from another custom modify cases that's all they do over there is custom cases on this thread and show there work off to others..

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Yeah, except it's a GTX280 in the pic. Mort is right, Will just wants to showcase what his ultimate idea of a neat and clean computer would be :)
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Your right brother some clean neat modifyed cases nothing wrong with modify as you see that cm-690 side panel was cut out and redone with a clear side..i like that..

@mrk44
rma the cases..i beleive u don't have enough air flow thru that cases
that's like me when..i had my stuff in that clear my temps was way up.then..i swithed to this cooler master..i went from 52c idle 60c stress to 31c idle 47 to 50 stress in this cooler master should got it at first..but i thought the clear case looked good now it's Back in the box collecting dust in the corner..lol

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Originally posted by Sophocles:
Geeny

I read this,

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I see a 21C difference.. That is a bit disturbing.... The only things that I can think of are your coverage of TP and the possibility of an improperly installed CPU heat sink... ;
and then figured it was a stuck sensor. None of the other cores that I glanced at showed an extreme heat excess of even close to 20C. That didn't excuse the fact that I hadn't observed the small but significant differences in the other cores.
Soph,
Now that makes some sense... I think. lol. Adding to the observation that I initially indicated and with the additional reading I've done (which you provided really) it does seem that an issue lies with a faulty representation of his core temps.

So now I ask is this a serious enough issue that he should 'write/email' Intel or just blow it off and use the cpu with no REAL worries??

btw mrk44, with NO ill will toward the one that recommended that cooler, I would RMA it and try something else. With all the issues/problems you've had with it; a change makes logical sense. ;)

....gm

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it's not mine it's a friends built from another site where they like to customize cases you know modify them make them different.

Hang in there bigwill! I guess I'm one of the few that didn't miss what you actually wrote! ROFLMAO!! Is something like that your goal? Looks very nice!

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rma the cases..i beleive u don't have enough air flow thru that cases
that could be the problem if all his core temps were high (other temps as well) but it does not explain the differences in temps between his core's. I think core 2 and 3 are accurate and lookin good. no problem with those two temps.

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Originally posted by bigwill68:

@mrk44
rma the cases..i beleive u don't have enough air flow thru that cases
that's like me when..
Willy have you missed the last few posts that mrk44, Soph, and myself have made?? ;) It's clearly something with the cpu reporting temps as far as we can determine. And btw I've worked with the aluminum version of that case and it's airflow abilities are just fine..... More than adequate for his needs. ;)

....gm

edit: I was typing as Morty was... so redundancy at it's best... :P

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Russ Wrote:
Hang in there bigwill! I guess I'm one of the few that didn't miss what you actually wrote! ROFLMAO!! Is something like that your goal? Looks very nice!

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yes sir goin with Asus setup this time around P5Qc mb for the floor plan and cm-690 case <little brother needs his Big brother> i'm goin to modify the side panel to full clear like that pic you all saw and going with cool master water cooler with Q9450 and some Corsair Dominator 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin ddr2 SDRAM 1066 that trio will run me from newegg $628.98 with $40 back off the memory gonna run vista this time around or maybe a split boot Xp and Vista but like it saids xp only knows 3.7gigs right? I think mort said that...:) anyways..I gotta birthday coming up nexts month and my son gonna throw me some money for my 40th's year and that help finish out the 590 build the end of august then..i can start buying thinks for the 690 build..and be done atlease by christmas or new years..

@Gm

this problem is almost or is the same as RedRob with his cpu E8400 on my board don't overheat it runs lower temps that my e6750 now if..i put my cpu on his board it runs fine also so something not matching right..my board was'nt matching that clear case..I had that you all talking about was and bad idea to..but sense..i moved over my temps dropped well do good much better..i can sleep at nite..:)..i'm just saying that case may not right for his type he's running..i sayin he got a heatsink with 120mm fan in it blowing out mass cfm maybe plowing out more than the rear fan and the top fan pull or suck out plus top fan is just and 80mm if..i'm looking at the right case nzxt blackline? i don't think the heat getting out fast enough as it produced..

this the case he got right?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146048

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Well, I have written to Intel to tell them about the core temps, just waiting for a response... Can I use the Intel warranty if there is a problem with the sensor to fix the thing?

I'm gonna get another cooler. Probably water cooling since it's a good investment for the future. Now if only I can find a good one and someone/place I can pay to install it for me....

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Originally posted by mrk44:
Well, I have written to Intel to tell them about the core temps, just waiting for a response... Can I use the Intel warranty if there is a problem with the sensor to fix the thing?

I'm gonna get another cooler. Probably water cooling since it's a good investment for the future. Now if only I can find a good one and someone/place I can pay to install it for me....
you can do it yourself it's easy to do..don't look hard at all..

my choice is made up on which 1..i'm going with for the end of the year build..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103045

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It's doubtful that all four sensor are gone and you only need one to monitor CPU temps. The sensor has nothing to do with the quality of the processor because if it did I would've returned mine months ago. Also a stuck senors always errs on the cool side not the hot so it is likely that the sensors showing the most heat are working.

In your test core sensor test cores 0,1,2 seemed pretty close to each other which suggest that some of the variances could be an improperly seated heat sink. Are you using thermal paste and if so can you name it?

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Originally posted by sammorris:
Has anyone here tried this cooler?
http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=679598
http://www.ncixus.com/products/23485/IFX-14/THERMALRIGHT/


Not yet. ;) I've been looking at that cooler for a while Sammy but I can't justify the expense at this time. If I ever get this silly Q6600 rig up and running it might be a consideration depending on the mobo I go with. IIRC Marsey99 has that cooler. From the looks of it, the thing is a beast and should do some extraordinary cooling. :D

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Hello guys. new to this forum here. ive been lurking and reading. alot of good info here...im doing a build of my own right now. i was wondering which CPU would be the best bet to get. the Q6600 or the E8400. ive read difference of opinions on other threads. some point to the Q6600 and some to the E8400. Any recomendations would be helpfull.
oh by the way. i have most my parts now as it is. i mostly still need a CPU PSU and a case.
i have the ASUS P5Q Premium mobo.
G-Skill4gb (2x2gb) kit.
ASUS GeForce GTX 260 GPU
2 x 500gb segate Hard drives

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Myself i would get the Q9450. sounds like your building a pretty nice rig. but out of the 2 you mention'd i'd get the Q6600.

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I hope you dont have that GTX 260. A Radeon 4850 is the same performance, and for the price of the GTX 260 you could have gotten two!

MRK, hell do both. Seems like you just have bad luck with that cooler. Plus stuck sensors would bother me. IDK, if I were you I wold just mail my CPU to Intel and get a new one and return the Xigmartek and get a TRUE.

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Originally posted by cincyrob:
Myself i would get the Q9450. sounds like your building a pretty nice rig. but out of the 2 you mention'd i'd get the Q6600.

Like RedRod said I'd go with the Q6600 of the two you choose but what are you gonna do with the computer?? You gonna play games with it?? Seems so with the GPU you have. ;) If that's the case then the E8400 or Q9450 might be the better choice.... I'm NOT a gamer so Sammy or Boozer might better answer that part of the question for you. ;)

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The choices that I gave you are something to consider for your build. You're going with higher end parts and will need some power, especially if you ever decide to go SLi! I like modular psu's but it's really personal preference and if you're willing to spend the extra money for it. As always shop around and see what you can come up with. There's buy.com, ZZF, and TigerDirect besides the EGG links that I gave you. good luck with your shopping.. ;)

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Originally posted by 21122112:
Hello guys. new to this forum here. ive been lurking and reading. alot of good info here...im doing a build of my own right now. i was wondering which CPU would be the best bet to get. the Q6600 or the E8400. ive read difference of opinions on other threads. some point to the Q6600 and some to the E8400. Any recomendations would be helpfull.
oh by the way. i have most my parts now as it is. i mostly still need a CPU PSU and a case.
i have the ASUS P5Q Premium mobo.
G-Skill4gb (2x2gb) kit.
ASUS GeForce GTX 260 GPU
2 x 500gb segate Hard drives
on the psu either of these are fine..my co-worker cincyrob has the corsair 650tx and it's working great for him..but if you wanna spend alittle extra money the corair 620hx nice cause it's setup let's use connections you only need..

here's the link to the psu..:)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...N82E16817139005

now the case that's your choice but..i know want one..i like the best myself in brand..

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Like RedRod said I'd go with the Q6600 of the two you choose but what are you gonna do with the computer?? You gonna play games with it?? Seems so with the GPU you have. ;) If that's the case then the E8400 or Q9450 might be the better choice.... I'm NOT a gamer so Sammy or Boozer might better answer that part of the question for you. ;)
i plan on playing some mid-high level games, also makeing my own DVD's.


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I hope you dont have that GTX 260. A Radeon 4850 is the same performance, and for the price of the GTX 260 you could have gotten two!

as for my GPU. it was given to my by a friend for some work i did on his house.

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on the psu either of these are fine..my co-worker cincyrob has the corsair 650tx and it's working great for him..but if you wanna spend alittle extra money the corair 620hx nice cause it's setup let's use connections you only need..
are you 2 gay? seems like a love affair going on???

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i dont know what that mean?

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LOL

Did you SERIOUSLY call them gay? WOW man, you're smart. You sure spotted it!(sarcasm)
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