Originally posted by SupraGaz:

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Bit of a update, my friend tried using a Compact Disc swap and this worked. The original CD loaded fine in the xmb and the swap happened and loaded the backup CD no problem.

The DVD PS2 game does not even load in the xmb now, the PS3 BRD does not start spinning or nothing when a PS2 DVD is inserted. Any ideas? Was working fine last night until he updated. The PS2 DVD did load this morning but the swap would not work, now the PS2 DVD will not load at all.

Strange...

(Edited to add film/data DVD's are not loading either.) DVD part of the BRD broke?

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Originally posted by headuno:

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What up fellas? I found that certain back-ups won't start without certain original ps2 discs. For example: I tried loading WWESMACKDWNvsRAw(Back-up)with ThewarrioRs original disc and it would give me a black screen. Then i tried loading with sAnAndreas disc and the back-up booted up just fine. I thought that was kinda weird. What do u think?

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Originally posted by cloning:

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lawl , all that trouble just to play PS2 games?

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Originally posted by iwin86:

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The pics from pizzag are great but I´m still a lil bit scarry "crash" my Ps3. Can one of you guys post an tutorial vid on youtube ?
That were really great.

P.S. Is there any Way do run Homebrew with pizzag´s mod??

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Originally posted by viks:

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PAY ATTENTION EVERYBODY

for all the people in this forum:

First, i would like to give Pizzag congratulations for his creativity, but i need to WARNING everybody that this swap mod kills the Blue Ray Laser unit.I´m a PSX and PS2 Modder for quite some years, and when i first read this post i was so glad, that i run to buy a PS3 unit.After i get home, i start to mod my ps3,open it and installed the swap switch and the originalmode/swap mode switch.i try it with the PS3 disassembled.Every thing went fine, but then i get worry when i saw the Laser unit injecting power to the coils tryng to focus something in the drive, when there wasen´t anything there.

Example:

-In Swap mode switch, put the original game inside.
-turn on the machine and wait the media to get recognized.
-turn the switch mode into eject
-the original game comes out BUT THE LASER START´S CLICKING TRYING TO READ SOMETHING THAT ISN´T THERE.
-THIS IS WRONG.the laser coils starts to burn for the increasing of power that it receives.this power increasing isn´t dangerous when it takes less then 1 second, in fact this result in focus or tracking way to work.But never more then 0.5 sec.


In the first and second batch of the PS2 Slim (V12), there was this problem.Sometimes the PS2 crashed out and the laser starts tryng to focus/trcking and this amount of power totaly burned the unit.Every body knows this, it was caled the Mechacon Crash.


I Stoped using the Swap mode by the time i cheked the Laser spinning up and down tracking the media that wasn´t there anymore.



This is for sure the problem that maked Pizzag Laser unit Burning, since he uses this mod for a longer time then others.

Im realy Sorry for my bad english, but i realy needed to WARN everybody for this bad/danger solution.




Be well.

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Originally posted by viks:

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PAY ATTENTION EVERYBODY

for all the people in this forum:

First, i would like to give Pizzag congratulations for his creativity, but i need to WARNING everybody that this swap mod kills the Blue Ray Laser unit.I´m a PSX and PS2 Modder for quite some years, and when i first read this post i was so glad, that i run to buy a PS3 unit.After i get home, i start to mod my ps3,open it and installed the swap switch and the originalmode/swap mode switch.i try it with the PS3 disassembled.Every thing went fine, but then i get worry when i saw the Laser unit injecting power to the coils tryng to focus something in the drive, when there wasen´t anything there.

Example:

-In Swap mode switch, put the original game inside.
-turn on the machine and wait the media to get recognized.
-turn the switch mode into eject
-the original game comes out BUT THE LASER START´S CLICKING TRYING TO READ SOMETHING THAT ISN´T THERE.
-THIS IS WRONG.the laser coils starts to burn for the increasing of power that it receives.this power increasing isn´t dangerous when it takes less then 1 second, in fact this result in focus or tracking way to work.But never more then 0.5 sec.


In the first and second batch of the PS2 Slim (V12), there was this problem.Sometimes the PS2 crashed out and the laser starts tryng to focus/trcking and this amount of power totaly burned the unit.Every body knows this, it was caled the Mechacon Crash.


I Stoped using the Swap mode by the time i cheked the Laser spinning up and down tracking the media that wasn´t there anymore.



This is for sure the problem that maked Pizzag Laser unit Burning, since he uses this mod for a longer time then others.

Im realy Sorry for my bad english, but i realy needed to WARN everybody for this bad/danger solution.




Be well.

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Originally posted by samhung:

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TSR - You forgot SupraGaz's friends ps3 also had dvd laser failure.
Hopefully he will find the root cause of the problem and let us know.

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Quote:

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A friend of mine dropped his PS3 off to me as it has recently stopped playing DVD's. This is in any form i.e, PS2 games, Movies, Data etc. (This has only occured since he updated his firmware to 1.81, although think this may just be a coincidence). When a DVD is inserted, it spins once or twice but nothing on the XMB loads. I get the small icon in the top right corner that a disc is trying to load but nothing ever does and the icon disappears.

I assumed it would be the laser or something within the BRD as CD's and Blu Ray films/games play and load fine.

I stripped the console down and changed the laser from a working machine, tested the new laser with a PS2 game and it still does not load! I then tested the laser I thought was working incorrectly in the other PS3 and that loaded PS2 DVD's fine.

I tried changing the HDD just to see if his 120gbdrive maybe causing it to play up but there is no difference with a 60gb.

A couple of facts:

The machine not loading DVD's is JAP 60gb model. (1.81 FW)
The machine that donated the laser is PAL 60gb model (1.70 FW)
On the Jap machine he has the switch installed to play backup PS2 games/PAL PS2 games.

Is there anything else I can swap to try and find what the problem is?

Thanks in advance, i thought a laser change would of cured this but guess not...

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Originally posted by vegetassj:

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Man, I tried to do this trick and I failed :(. So I need help


First off, I am only using one switch to do this, its just on and on i guess. The other thing is, I cut the sensor wire. It does eject and load, I can see there is power going to the motor and what not. However, when I eject, the disc never comes out, it loads..but never ejects. I found out why, its because of the stupid flap, it blocks its way. Is the flap automatically supposed to go back up while the disc is ejecting? if so what the heck have I done wrong?

The other thing is, although the game gets sucked in, it never actually loads. I can see the blue led is there and when I hit eject, the blue led goes away for a second and then comes back, and then I can see in the XMB the PS3 tries to load the game with the little loading logo at the top right, but it never actually does. I never see the disc icon appear.

Now I know maybe people cannot answer this, so in that case, if I solder back the 2 wires (red and black) that were originally in place with the motor, will my PS3 be back to normal? I did cut off the sensor wires as well, it was an accident so it actually pulled off from the switch itself, It would be extremely hard for me to put those back. But can someone please let me know, I am so sad...feel like I destroyed my machine :(.

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Originally posted by SupraGaz:

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I made a new thread about it but there seems to be more attention here so i'll carry on here with what i have done.

A friend of mine dropped his PS3 off to me as it has recently stopped playing DVD's. This is in any form i.e, PS2 games, Movies, Data etc. (This has only occured since he updated his firmware to 1.81, although think this may just be a coincidence). When a DVD is inserted, it spins once or twice but nothing on the XMB loads. I get the small icon in the top right corner that a disc is trying to load but nothing ever does and the icon disappears.

I assumed it would be the laser or something within the BRD as CD's and Blu Ray films/games play and load fine.

I stripped the console down and changed the laser from a working machine, tested the new laser with a PS2 game and it still does not load! I then tested the laser I thought was working incorrectly in the other PS3 and that loaded PS2 DVD's fine.

I tried changing the HDD just to see if his 120gbdrive maybe causing it to play up but there is no difference with a 60gb.

A couple of facts:

The machine not loading DVD's is JAP 60gb model. (1.81 FW)
The machine that donated the laser is PAL 60gb model (1.70 FW)
On the Jap machine he has the switch installed to play backup PS2 games/PAL PS2 games.

Is there anything else I can swap to try and find what the problem is?

Thanks in advance, i thought a laser change would of cured this but guess not...

So, i have changed the laser and the problem still persists. And the laser I thought was bust, actually worked in the other PS3 so I now have no clue what the problem maybe...

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This may be a shot in the dark, but have you checked the ribbon under the piece of mother board(3 bolts below) and made sure this was secure as I think it does more than just read the sensor to the right of this picture, as the little black box to the left is also a sensor of sorts I believe.

I believe it may also (read/detect/have something to do with) what type of disc is in the tray??
Like I said "a shot in the dark" :(

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Originally posted by samhung:

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supragaz, did u try this?

AFTER HOURS OF MESSIN AROUND WITH THIS MOD, I FINALLY GOT IT DONE!!! THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS I LEFT THE STOCK BLACK AND RED WIRES ON THE MOTOR AND STILL ADDED MY SWITCH. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD WORK. I TESTED MY BACK-UP OF MARC ECKO'S GETTING UP AND IT WORKED LIKE A CHARM. THANX ORIGINAL POSTER AND ALL WHO HELPED. PEACE

i dunno what difference it makes leaving the old wires on the motor but it does matter according to headon.

could leaving the wires on also stop laser from reading when the disk is ejected? that would be nice but how if its just for power and why did it make a difference?

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