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30. August 2008 @ 13:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I Went into CMOSS, could not find any adjustments but CMOS shows the fan running at 3150 RPMs
Noe Speedfan is showing 1585
I didn't do a thing other then check in the CMOS what the F@#K
Can't figure it out, Maybe my computer has a mind of its own

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30. August 2008 @ 15:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think CMOS puts some sort of load on the CPU so it's on completely idle.

Check your motherboard manual. It will have fan speed control. Asus has something called Q-Fan. You can set your fan from 60-90 percent speed with that. You should probably check it out.
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Russ,

as a happy rampage formula owner, I know that it has a lot of unneeded bells and whistles. you have to consider that it is a lanparty mobo and most of those that buy it will have a clear window on their pc case and want all the bling. so what. it is still a great overclocker and does have many beneficial features above and beyond the typical mobo. 7 fan headers 6 of which can be controlled through the bios, lcd poster which will identify any faults or problems, and a user friendly bios just to name a few.

I don't know why you chose to dis the rampage formula at this time or where you are getting all of your information. I don't have any problem with the NB temp. I have my Q9450 OC'ed to 3.56ghz and my NB temp is 42c. the mobo temp is only 35c. no NB or SB fans.

who ever said the sound was superior? it is very good compared to onboard sound of older tech but not above the current competators. all I ever commented on was how good my klipsch ultra 5.1's sound. they would most likely sound even better with a SB X-Fi Fatal1ty sound card.

the mobo does come with an optional mosfet fan (as do most high end asus mobos) but is only recommended to be used with water cooling as it clips on to the mosfet hs and blows directly on the hs thus interfering with any front to back air flow. I don't use it.

the one main reason I find the asus rampage formula superior to some other motherboards is the user/OC friendly bios and I still feel exactly the same. not only are there a lot of adjustments (more than needed for most, me included) but the increments in which it gives you. the most choices I have ever seen by far. the cpu vcore has increments as small as .00625v and most other voltage settings have increments of .02v.

I do agree the manual is a little lacking for a lot of the extra features/settings/adjustments but I guess asus assumes if a person is going to spend that kind of money for all the extra bells and whistles, they probably already know what they do and what they are for.

I refuse to dis the precious gigabyte mobo's but I will say this, I could never use one for my own personal performance pc, especially after being exposed to this asus rampage formula, not to mention my asus P5W DH Deluxe. both of which have been stellar performers. I will/would however very strongly consider a gigabyte mobo for a friend or customer that is interested only in a dependable and reliable pc for average daily use in a home or small office.

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rick,

disable Q-fan for the CPU. this was taken from the P5Q Premium manual:




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Hell if I am buying a board for that much it had better have all those nice features. You deserve it.
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Mort81: Q-Fan was disabled, the brd is set and comes that way. Now I've gone back into the CMOS and enabled it
even with it enabled Everest reports CPU 750 RPM
Chassi 2377 RPM
GPU 2638 RPM

Speedfan
Sys Fan 750 RPM
CPUO Fan 2360
Is it better to Enable or Disable
I just can't figure out that low fan speed. Would it be the MOBO or maybe a faulty fan.. Who do I contact ASUS or Intel..Both are only about 6wks old
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Plug a different fan in there and see what speed that runs at, if you have one. If it's also slow, the board is the issue, if it doesn't, you may have a dodgy CPU fan. 750rpm is too low for anything other than a tower cooler with a Quad core involved.



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I got a Freezer 7 Pro, do I need to install it on the CPU just to check or just plug it in
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Plugging in will suffice (obviously, don't leave your CPU with no cooler on it though!)



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I'll give it a shot..I guess if the computer is on 4 about 5mins It shouldn't hurt the CPU. I HOPE
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As I proved, you can run a CPU without a fan for quite a while, but not without a heatsink, not for a second.



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I would stick the freezer 7 pro on there anyway. easy enough to do and a much better cooler.

what does asus probe and everest report. they both report the same for mine which is 2096 rpm.

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I don't think its all that easy to change with the BRD in and in an upright position too boot!! Don't like the idea of laying it down where its at now. But I'll give it a shot this evening. Right now gotta take my nap to be ready fer da midnight hours
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what I mean't by easy enough to do is due to the fact the neither the oem cpu hsf nor the freezer 7 pro have backing plates that require you to pull the mobo. compared to when I changed out my TRUE which does have a backing plate and requires pulling the mobo (took about 3 hours), that should be a breeze.

I would definately lay the pc on it's side to do it.

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3 hours!
Wow It's never taken me quite that long... :O



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Originally posted by sammorris:
3 hours!
Wow It's never taken me quite that long... :O
I had a head injury in 2001 leaving most of my left side paralyzed. I have absolutely no use of left arm and hand. I have to wear an AFO (ankle foot orthotic) (brace) on my left foot in order to walk any distance or outside.

most ppl couldn't do it period with only one arm and one hand, not to mention only one good leg.

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Originally posted by sammorris:
3 hours!
Wow It's never taken me quite that long... :O
I believe it.. you yungins like to do it fast and w/o thought... hehehe. :P

NOW about computers. :P Definitely lay the puter on it's side and removing the OEM cooler will be easy just remember to pull up on the little black thingies after you turn them clockwise to "unlock" them. ;) Also installing the ACF7 Pro is easy and made easier by "pulling" the fan. Remember to turn the little black thingies (on the ACF7) counterclockwise so they will lock when installed/pushed into the mobo. ;) Re-attaching the fan is simple and done by alligning the top of the fan basically with the top fin of the cooler and gently pushing the fan shroud back onto the cooler. ;) good luck.. :D

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Ah, I had no idea about that. My apologies.



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russ, does he have the QX9650?

if so tell him just to raise the multi to 12, from 9, and he can get to 4GHz with no problems.

if he has the new Q9650 (E0) stepping, it shoudl hit 4 with no problems.


I'm sorry I forgot the X, it is a QX9650! The main problem is the NB temps. My Dr. friend is part of a group of people, all professionals, mostly Doctors and Dentists, and they have formed a club. 27 members! They even bought a house to use as a clubhouse. These guys know more about overclocking than you or I will ever know, and their pockets are even deeper than Nuck's! All of them have very high end stuff. This is their Hobby/Obsession! LOL!! Must be nice! ROFLMAO!! They're way out of our league! The last time I was over there, there was probably more than $40,000 in monitors alone! Some of the members even do beta testing for some of the Game manufacturers! And before you ask! No, I can't get any free games! LOL!!

Nice work if you can get it! LOL!!

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Originally posted by sammorris:
Ah, I had no idea about that. My apologies.
no worries mate. not many here know/knew.

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Realistically, I'm amazed you've built a PC on your own considering. There are a lot of jobs that I find hard enough with two hands!



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Realistically, I'm amazed you've built a PC on your own considering. There are a lot of jobs that I find hard enough with two hands!
but most you "see" only require one... hehehe. ;P sorry mate... ima ba-a-a-a-a-a-ad man today. ;)

yes Morty... nice job with your bum wing and all that posting you do. :)

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Originally posted by icemen:
Originally posted by sammorris:
There should still be an IDE socket on your motherboard, though probably only one. It may currently be taken up by your CDROM drive, so I suggest you unplug your CDROM drive temporarily while you use it to hook up your old HDD and backup your files, then put it back when you're done. You can leave the old HDD in your PC case when finished if you like, just unplug it from power to save energy.
ok i'll try that, will let you know how i get on, thankz
ok got my old harddrive connected to my pc but i can't view any my pictures or play any of the music on the harddrive? it says i don't have permission, when i click to take ownership it lets me into the album but does't play as it says file format isn't supported? & i have to keep on getting permission for file i want to enter, can anyone help me get my music & picture to work on my new pc?
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right click the HDD go to securty and enable full controll to your user.
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A Vista user by any chance? *sigh*



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