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KoOkOo67
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24. December 2005 @ 12:38 |
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Doesnt the 360 have windows os?
Well, i've just found images, of ps2 with linux on it. (ps2 being used as a computer)
ne ways, i think the same will go with the ps3. N e ways i really want to see how linux runs on a ps2. I suppose ps2 is faster than a p2 correct?
http://www.us.playstation.com/peripherals.aspx?id=SCPH-97047
To bad its not available in North America anymore.
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zelda64
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24. December 2005 @ 15:24 |
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Thanks Kookoo for that. I will never use my PS2 as a computer (and I presume thats what most people think considering they dont sell in in North America anymore)
When people get home they want to press the button and play or watch a DVD or listen to music or chat to their friends. When people need to work, browse the internet or other computer related things like photo delux they will use that computer they spent alot of money on.
The 360 uses that blade system you have seen and read so much about. It can stream content from a Windows computer.
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24. December 2005 @ 15:44 |
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I might use it as a computer once i get my ps3
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24. December 2005 @ 17:00 |
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yeah same here. if it has linux, maybe linux games will work on it. what i like with the ps3 is the hd camera for video chats, something i dont think 360 has and they complain they are the best of online.
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zelda64
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24. December 2005 @ 17:31 |
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Well that says it all. You dont even know a very widely known thing that 360 can and will have a cmera for video confrencing. How can you possibly make a comparison with 360 and PS3 if you dont even know simple things like this.
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24. December 2005 @ 17:39 |
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Sorry truthman, but this made me laugh real hard.
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plus, i love hardware and shit, i dont just care about the games like many other morons do,
You like sh*t? LOL
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This claim was rediculous, and they now present the Cell as a "Supercomputer" which is absolutely not the case.
Charza, i think i've had conversation with someone else before. Sony stated that the ps3 will have supercomputer like ATRIBUTES
They didnt say it is a super computer.
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TruthMan
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25. December 2005 @ 03:01 |
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<being nice now>.
merry christmas kookoo, i didnt mean to cuss u, but u cussed me lots.
the final! thing i will say then before u report me (although if you do i can easily do the same to u, BUT ONLY if u do the first move) is the RSX CAN't have HDR with AA enabled because its HAS NOT got a 64 bit architecture. regardless of RAM and other memory stuff etc.
thats why it cant, so0 your points just didnt show the information needed to show that it can, no 64 bit architecture = no HDR with AA, but at 720p the natural aliasing (jaggies) of things is low anyway even with no AA, because there are quite a lot of pixels on the screen.
and you practically don't need AA when at 1080I (or P) because the rezolution is WELL HIGH. but when it is on things look smooth as bably bottoms, truly astounding.
finally, kookoo with RAM you DO add the size's up, but for cache you DONT add the sizes up (although they are both memory) as its how much each core has to work with. each core doesnt get all the cache of each core's cache added together to work with. (if 2 cores have 512 KB each, then each core HAS ONLY 512KB to work with, not 1000KB as you stated).
this is my final post in this one as you are being to offensive (no need for it, as u started the hostilities).
HAPPY CHRISTMAS.
Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......
Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.
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KoOkOo67
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25. December 2005 @ 08:28 |
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Dude, both GPU's have 128 bt architectures.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360
States that the ps3 is 128bit
States that the xbox360 EDram(which creates the Adaptive AA) is 64bit, while the xenos is 128bit...
No where have i read that ps3 is 32bit. Do you relize that the graphics wil be worse than like an xbox if its 32bit?
The n64 was 64bit for sakes. Each generation gets higher in bits.
from 16 bit(snes)32bit(ps1 saturn) 64bit-(n64) 128bit(ps2? xbox?) ps3 &360 is 128 bit.
No where have i read that ps3, or 360 is 32bit-64bit.
Both will have the ability to have HDR and AA enabled.
I've explained why the ps3 can have aa and hdr enabled, sony just didnt mention that because they thaught it wasnt important. ffs, the ps2 even had hdr and aa enabled.
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Thanx, but isnt it merry christmas?
Merry xmas to you to. Have fun with hat 360 of yours. lol
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25. December 2005 @ 10:16 |
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zelda, not hd super-fast camera
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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25. December 2005 @ 13:24 |
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Truthman, i keep noticing that you say , the ATI xenos can have both hdr and aa. But keep in mind, the xenos isnt doing both of them. The 360 has 10mbof ebram that is opperating the AA for the xenos. Xenos isnt doing the AA, it is only doing the HDR.
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zelda64
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25. December 2005 @ 18:27 |
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@anubis
HD-superfast camera.lol. Now your changing your tune. I said 'How can you make comparisons between both consoles if you dont even know the simple thing that the 360 has a camera.' I did not say anything about the quality of the camera or what it can do.
Have you even seen the video's of Gears of War or Mass Effect?
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25. December 2005 @ 18:34 |
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they are nice, but not as nice as the mgs4 video from the tokyo game show.
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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zelda64
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25. December 2005 @ 19:00 |
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You have to trust me when I say I have seen that video quite a few times and it is graphicaly impresive but no more so than Gears of War. Any way with an interview with Hideo Kajima he said that he can produce the same graphics on the 360. I can quote his words if you wish?
Can I ask how some parts of the Gears of War and Mass Effect play out? What I mean by that is (if I use Metal Gear Solid 4 as an example) the beggining of the video starts off with these plane's over head then a radom soldier is moving with a squad of troop's. He spots somthing in the distance and runs to check it out. Solid Snake comes from behind and kills him. Another part Soild Snake is talking to Octagon on the little robot then checks out whats going on outside with these sort of minature Metal gears. He then finaly runs outside with the surrounding looking real with the sort of ruined roman type surrounding with these pillars.
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25. December 2005 @ 19:08 |
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GoW. theres some alien things, then the guys standing by columns. they they fire on the enemy alien things with an unrealistic explosion of blood. end with a guy running backwards. graphics are nicce. but again a common question, where is the realtime proof?
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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KoOkOo67
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25. December 2005 @ 19:33 |
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I think i've told many many people not to compair 2 games, from two different developers, and graphics that dont show full potential.
I'm pretty sure that a geforce 6200 can render something similar or somthing as good as those two games. Mabey not as good, but it's not noticable. Did i forget to say render in realtime. You guys dont know what 100% potential of any gpu is from 360, or ps3 is. Dont bother! Dont compair games yett! Expecially if they are two different games, from different developers. You know some games work very differently with different video cards? I bet you dont know that.
Like look at this.
http://techreport.com/reviews/2004q4/geforce-6200/index.x?pg=4
Same game, different cards. Thats somthing you can compair. But not two different games, from two different developers.
I've seen final fantasy X-2 look better than 30% of xbox games. And realtime.
some game developers know how to creat outstanding games. Dont compair with two different games.SOME DONT. Take your own tests....If you know how to...
I'm prety sure those two games are arround 30% of what the two GPU's can render. Stop this foolishness.
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25. December 2005 @ 20:04 |
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You guys dont know whats comming to you. Look at guild wars. PC!
The images are realtime, and look like ps3/360 graphics realtime. And its a pc vcard, currently beaten by both xenos and rsx.
DONT JUDGE GAMES YETT.
Does anyone know if guildwars is multyplayeR?
Or if you need to pay monthly?
Ahh, i want to know, im probably getting it tomorow, with my new geforce 6200.
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zelda64
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25. December 2005 @ 20:59 |
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I knew it! anubis you have not seen the demonstration I am talking about. The demonstration is an ingame demonstration with someone playing the game.
You can find it on www.xbox360news.com
It is an ingame demonstration with someone playing it.
And please dont slag off unrealistic weapons when you like the Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer.
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25. December 2005 @ 21:47 |
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i like the weapons. im a fan of unreal so why would unrealisim in gunns effect me. if ur gunna have a body explode, do it well
But they all do sort of the same thing, and that is rearrange what you thought was real, and they remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, because youre so busy going from a to z, that theres 24 letters in between... You turn on... tune in... and you drop out...
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zelda64
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25. December 2005 @ 22:01 |
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The whole point is you try to pretend you have an open mind but you havent seen that much or know that much on the 360. You have made too many mistakes on 360's behalf to have a valid point.
Anyway take a look at the video footage of Gears of War and Mass Effect. Maybe then you could be taken a bit more seriously.
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KoOkOo67
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25. December 2005 @ 22:24 |
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Zelda, im curios, why do you choose not to have a sig? (randomness)
This better not turn into arguement over which game has better graphics.....My head will pop off.
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zelda64
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25. December 2005 @ 22:33 |
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Just to let you know that this isnt an argument over graphics but over anubis's knowledge on the 360. I am not sure what to buy yet out of the two but I am more pushed towards 360. I have checked out as much information as I can on both systems.
It appears to me that anubis has checked out as much information on PS3 as possible and only a small proportion of the information on the 360. He has his oppinions but can someone argue that PS3 is essentialy the better of the two at the moment if they have not researched alot of inormation on the other console?
Moving along to the sig, Idont know how to do it and I havent been really bothered yet. How do you do it and are you alowed a picture?
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KoOkOo67
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25. December 2005 @ 22:36 |
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K, at the top, click my account. Right beside where it says Forums.
Once your there, go to
Functions
· Edit personal information
Once your there scroll down till you see Signiture. And put w.e you want in there.
Refer to forum rules to see what pics you can have in there.
5 text lines only.
These rules exist to make viewing the forum as pleasant as possible to all users. Even though you might think signatures with large pictures look cool, some might find them extremely annoying.
FORUM RULES FOR SIGNITURES
1. Text-only signatures should have at most 5 lines of text.
2. An image-only signature should be less than 50kb in size, and be at most 500 pixels wide and 200 pixels tall.
3. If you use an animated picture in the signature, it should not be too distractive. Eg. blinking images or images with quick movement are not allowed.
4. If you want to use both text and image in your signature the image should not be more than 500 pixels wide and 100 pixels tall, and you can use up to three lines of text.
5. All the abovementioned rules for forum posts apply also to the signatures.
Violation of these rules does not lead to an immediate ban. However if requested user must edit his or her signature to fit these guidelines.
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KoOkOo67
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25. December 2005 @ 22:51 |
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Truthman, I just relized that you were talking about memory architecture and i'm talking about GPU architecture. LOL
The 360's memory isnt 64bit architecture either. Its unified archecture.
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TruthMan
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26. December 2005 @ 07:08 |
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kookoo im really sure (certain infact) that the memory architecture is unified 64 bit, plus lol, even custom PC said that (it has the same *memory* architecture as the X180XT except for unified which x1800XT doesnt have, plus - u thought i was talking about the whole architecture, lol, i wasnt. i thought you knew i was on about the memory architecture all the time. LOL, that explaines a lot of my argument points.
did u have a good christmas. ps. the 360 is great. VERY hard to get though. i got the 2nd to last one in the shop. and it was a £400 core package (no hd cable, hard drive etc) it came with 4 games, inc perfect dark, the graphics are brilliant for non HDTV, even better on HDTV (truly gorgeous), and IF (not so but IF) the 460 is weaker and it can power graphcis like them smoothly, the furure IS VERY bright for BOTH consoles ecpecially when games are multi-threaded. AWW MAN I CANT WAIT, can u? lol
about eDRAM, the eDRAM *stores* the AA samples (so they are fast AA samples, not like normal AA on PC where it SEVERARLY hits the performance of a game, especially at high rez.). they then can be VERY QUICKLY moved to the core to be rendered and displayed.
there u go.
Don't judge the consoles by specs, more isnt always better, espec in PS3 specs.i know the truth, ask if u wanna know.......
Do not compete without valid correct technicality on your terms of the argument.
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KoOkOo67
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26. December 2005 @ 08:05 |
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Truthman, your a lucky lucky bumm. Do you know that? No i can't wait.
I'm gogin to check what memory architecture the ps3 has. Even if it is 32 bit, it would still be able to have one spe doing the AA. The ps2 had the CPU doing the AA. That backs me up. Anyways, i just cant w8 untill sony ces. It will determine if sony was lieing or not lieing. It will also determine what gaming system i am goign to get 100% sure. Anyways, im off to bestbuy to get my ATI Radeon 9600SE 128MB Video Card, with GUILDWARS. lOl. I cant w8 anylonger. They're selling the card real cheap.
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS1003...Quote:
the final! thing i will say then before u report me (although if you do i can easily do the same to u, BUT ONLY if u do the first move)
Dont worry my report abuse button doesnt work. Afterdawn has problems right now.!!lol, but i wouldnt if it did.
One last thing to mention. I have to disagree that either memory architectures will be in 32-64bit architecture, Because PC GPU's right now range from 64-256bit memory architectures. Unless i am wrong. But then you'de have to give me the source of why i am wrong. I dont plan on debating this, untill Sony CES conferms the final specs.
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