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Vulcan94
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2. November 2008 @ 19:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I bought AnyDVD and I use the free version of DVDFAB. Between the two of them there hasn't been a DVD I've not be able to backup. I do, however, use AnyDVD 98% of the time without any problems.


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whats your ripping/backing up process? brand of media? burn speed?




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Most of the time I use DVD Shrink latest version and I don't have a problem at all other times I'll use Clone DVD2 2.9.1.7 and also ANY DVD 6.4.3.2 with them, but recently with some odd movies like Tinkerbell, it will back it up all properly and it will even play on the computer all properly, but when played on my Home DVD player/recorder (LG 8 in 2) it will start and then stop after a few chapters. When burning them I use my LG DVD burner with HP DVD-R disk and in DVD Shrink I always say use maximum for the speed.
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Please post more specifics, example type of media used, burn speed, Burning program, did you booktype to DVD-ROM? Any burn log would be appreciated and will help us narrow down the problem.
My preliminary guess is bad media burned too quickly.

Edit,
Second time in two weeks that I have read to the end of the thread, replied, then several more posts show up between the time I read and posted, anyone else see this phenomenom?


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Originally posted by JSaumur:
When burning them I use my LG DVD burner with HP DVD-R disk and in DVD Shrink I always say use maximum for the speed.

HP media is crap use better media like Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim burning at 6x to 8x max. thats most likely your problem. using clonedvd + anydvd for the newer movies with heavy copy protection is the best bet




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saumer as blivet said some specifics would be nice. ;)

I'm betting just slowing down your burn speed might help. It doesn't matter what kind of media you use if you burn it to fast you could have the issues you are having now. Try that and inform us some more on your results so we can assist your further. ;)

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2. November 2008 @ 22:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Like Greensman suggest, slowing down is great, slowing down to 1/2 speed is the best starting point. Burning on Maximum speed may result in almost non-playable disks. I recommend burning at 8X for 16X rated media. Believe it or not, the burn time between 8X and 16X is not that great, look at how much time is spent writing the lead in and the lead outs and you'll see what we mean by the previous statement,


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To JSaumer, please read all the great advice all these fine gentlemen are giving. I started this thread, and their advice worked for me.

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JSaumur
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4. November 2008 @ 22:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried to slow the speed to 8x instead of 16x and tonight on two different movies it didn't work, it's still the same thing, after 3 chapters it sudenly stop playing but everything is there and it plays fine on the computer. It's weird that everything was working fine and then sudenly this problem started, it almost makes me want to format my HD and reinstall the entire system. Such a trouble though.
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Originally posted by JSaumur:
I tried to slow the speed to 8x instead of 16x and tonight on two different movies it didn't work, it's still the same thing, after 3 chapters it sudenly stop playing but everything is there and it plays fine on the computer. It's weird that everything was working fine and then sudenly this problem started, it almost makes me want to format my HD and reinstall the entire system. Such a trouble though.
Don't format quite yet. :)

I would do a clean disk, defrag, and try a different media. Anything other than the stuff you're using right now. You can pick up something at almost any B&M store if you live in the states. I think that OM (office max) has the 100pk on sale for $25 this week. ;)

good luck to you....

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The extras include some funky games and interactive stuff.. Never been able to do anything with that kind of content from disney.. Main movie only.
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JSaumur try the better media i mentioned above burning at 6x to 8x max doing the movie only. also don't burn to the edge of the disc set your target size a bit smaller say 4300. make sure you have the most up to date firmware for the drive/burner also




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5. November 2008 @ 12:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You May want to slow the burn speed down to 4x.
Try Cleaning your Stand alone Player.

Also try running the movie through Fixvts.


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7. November 2008 @ 09:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by JSaumur:
I think the original question as been lost somehow, but I'm reffering back to the Tinkerbell problem. I've managed to copy it to DVD and I've done both just the movie and also the entire DVD. It's not the first time I'm having the following problem, I can play it fine on my computer, but when it gets to play it on my Home studio with DVD player/recorder, it plays 3 chapters and then stop sudenly. Anybody got a clue on the problem with this? And it wont play at all on any other DVD player in the house.
What program and version are you using to burn? Did you by any chance update Nero for use with Shrink? Later versions of Nero cause the same problem you're having. Since different things can cause the same problem, this may or may not be your particular problem. Without more info, I'm just stating what I've seen personally. Nero 8 and 9 are not supported by Shrink. Nero was changed enough that it calls up the wrong burning process when accessed by Shrink. The burned output plays on the PC but not on standalone players for home video systems (same problem you describe). With 8 & 9 you can save output to hard drive and burn the transcoded video manually. For ease of use I upgraded Shrink to use ImgBurn as a supported burner.


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JSaumur
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7. November 2008 @ 21:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think you might get it right on the nugget there. I did indeed upgraded to the latest Nero, therefore I think the problem started around that time. I'll have to either downgrade back to Nero 7 or use something else and see if that works. Thanks for the information.
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try imgburn, its free




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There's a sticky with the info needed to change the Shrink exe to support ImgBurn. Here's the link, http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/664041 . You can still save the Shrink output to your hard drive and then record it to dvd manually with Nero Express using the video options. It will play on your standalone that way. For ease of operation, I'd suggest going with ImgBurn as a supported burner. That makes the transcode and burn seamless and LUK is doing a good job supporting the ImgBurn software.


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JSaumur
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8. November 2008 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There's a problem with the sticky though, it doesn't give the option to burn the files as a DVD but rather as an IMAGE ISO file which is not what I want to do. How do we fix that?
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8. November 2008 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just pick the rightmost/uppermost icon in Imgburn - 'Write files/folders to disc', it 'builds' & burns the VIDEO_TS folder to disc..



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I'm saying from DVDSHRINK is where the problem with the ISO file choice is, not from the other. Therefore I don't even get to the burning software yet before I chose that option.
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I see. I don't do auto-burning, i have no idea what 'pops up' when Imgburn is called via Shrink.

There's an echo in here.... - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/664041/4356993



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you have to have this version of dvd shrink to autoburn with imgburn

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/DVD_Shrink_3_2_b_w_IB.zip




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9. November 2008 @ 02:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just got Tinkerbell and would like to make a backup copy. I've tried DVD Shrink, DVD Fab and DVD Decrypter, but none are able to break it, so I can't even get just the movie on to my hardrive. I've had trouble with Disney DVDs before, but DVD Fab usually breaks it, wondering if they've got a new encryption that these programs can't handle. At this point I'm just trying to backup the movie, then burn to disc. If anybody has any suggestions I'd appreciate it, thanks.

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Comment edited, as previous post was 'cleaned' up.

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Use DVD Shrink with AnyDVD HD version 6.4.3.2, it will crack any Disney movie, worked for me so far. The problem I had was that the new NERO version doesn't work to well with DVD Shrink, you need to keep it below version 8 or use IMGBurn.
 
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