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The_OGS
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17. March 2005 @ 19:56 |
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First Friday practice in 5 minutes!
This is so great - thank goodness for the American channel 'Speed' which covers the whole weekend (as it should be).
Who d'you like, lads?
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18. March 2005 @ 00:17 |
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Any race like last week will do. I would like to see a mix in the top ten.
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18. March 2005 @ 02:15 |
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I would like to see DC come in on the podium, also i hope Button has a good race!
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18. March 2005 @ 08:10 |
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I'm a Ferrari head , but really wanna see Button start the season well.
We'll see what the proper pace of all cars is next race ... if it doesn't rain ! : )
Also you'd imagine that have actually set certain rules for change of tyres if damaged etc [as was pretty vague at 1st race eh]
Rosco404 , good to see some Red Dwarf heads up in here (lol). You read the books man ? Well bloody funny I tells ya :c]-~
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18. March 2005 @ 10:11 |
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Your right, we should see a proper race if it does'nt rain, i belive that was the cause of the results in Australia... But we will see : )
As for Red Dwarf i love it but i aint read any of the books yet i didnt relise they had books out! Think i might get one and see what the crack is : ) But your right... there aint many of us out there LOL!
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3. April 2005 @ 09:04 |
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Nice one Renault! Ha Ha Ferrari! This season could turn out to be interesting. I find it interesting that Flavio Briatori (?) has quite an effect on the way a team performs, since he returned to Renault, it has got better & better.
I am really glad that other teams are catching up like Toyota & good to see McLaren too.
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3. April 2005 @ 10:30 |
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Yep, certainly looks like it is going to be interesting.
Man those Renault chaps have really got to grip with the revised format.............and showing the 'Top' boys exactly how it is done.
Did you see the condition of the Renaults tyres compared with the other cars..........they really know how to obtain max speed, and retain their grip.....
Nice to see the Toyota up there aswell, seems they have fooled alot of people with their excellent start to the season......another team on the up.
Loved Pedro De La Rosa's scraps......he really enjoyed that race today I think, and made great entertainment with his overtaking antics..........
Yes good old Ferrari, they really have their work cut out for the next 3 weeks until Imola, I hope they can get that 'Reliability' thang back.......don't think schuey has had reliability issues since way back in Hockenheim 2001, or maybe 2002.........
Still on a positive note, Rubens, was so 'laid back' during a pre race interview, and basically was racing to see how long the car lasted, well it just about lasted but was bad...................
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3. April 2005 @ 11:24 |
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Shame about Button though, I really think that Barichello should get a half decent car to do the job! I do not think that he realised you will ALWAYS be No 2 to Schumacher. Along with the No 2 car to boot. (Barichello has potential, I sometimes think that he is too nice to be a winner).
Eddie Ervine is proof of a No 2s position.
Saying that though, I never really rated him, (Irvine), as a driver, like Coulthard, Johnny Herbert, Thierry Boutsen, the list goes on. They are just not F1 champion material. People with pure talent are few & far between.
Button has great potential, Villeneuve needs a decent drive. Alonso & Trulli will become champs in the future.
All I can say is roll on Spa. THE race circuit to sort the men out from the boys! Eau Rouges is scary on a PS2, let alone real life, a long downhill, change of direction as well as a rapid change in gradient (bottom out suspension), up to a blind left hand brow of a hill (Release suspension - making steering & handling go light). G-Force ahoy! On body as well as suspension! My God what a circuit.
Oh to have a go in an F1 car.
Never going to happen.
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chrono27
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26. April 2005 @ 13:42 |
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SCHUMI LIVES!!!!!!! get ready for the next race! ist gona be tigth!
i only hope kimi does better nex time
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26. April 2005 @ 22:17 |
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Yeah, everyone was righting him off, I was also not very confident.....
However, during a quick chat with Ross he stated about 'pulling a rabbit out of a hat'.............this made me wonder........
And sure enough, Schuey tore through the field..............outstanding...........
Good race from Alonso, and a great battle towards the end with Schuey..........except when ITV (UK) went to adverts with 4 laps to go - bastards.........and came back just for the last lap.
Then straight after the race, they re-run the last laps obviously admitting that they f..ked up............
Still, no getting away from the fact that Renault are the team of the moment, durability/reliability an outstanding setup.......Ferrari just didn't have the 'grunt' to topple them although their braking capability was excellent.
It seemed clear to me the raikonnen was on one, probably had the revs turned up, and roached his transmission.......just scuttled away, but I think he overdrove his car.........hopefully he will be more competitive in Barcelona................
Looking like a good season, Renault need to stoppped, c'mon Ferrari let's see Schuey start breeding rabbits and getting Rubinio up in the fight....................
...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
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The_OGS
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27. April 2005 @ 06:01 |
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Jacques did well :^)
Ahead of both Toyotas, both Williams, both Red Bulls...
(We figure he's just warming up)
Yes I know, he warms up slowly ;^)
Ah well, one thing for sure - Montreal will be Sold Out in June, it'll be nuts.
The Frenchies will be out in droves!
Alonso looked pretty cool with The Michael up his butt.
You could tell he was entering corners really slowly, slowing Schumacher down... it worked!
Hey we pickup the ITV feed here in Canada too - what's with the weird audio breakup in the feed?
You can tell they're using wireless microphones and they just cut out now & then (regularly).
Man they better fix that. It's been going on for a long time (since last year?) It has gone beyond annoying and is now almost farcical.
Ahhh the latest technologies - they're great when they work, eh?
Good to see both Hondas finish the race, LoL :^)
Michael was fast but he's got his work cut out for him...
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27. April 2005 @ 06:55 |
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Nascar is easily a better than F1. Don't get me wrong, the F1 cars are fast, cool looking and the drivers are talented, but the racing is very follow the leader. Which is why CART has struggled in the US. IRL has had good sucess due to the side by side racing and close finishes. Which is also what makes NASCAR so much better than F1. How offten do you see F1 cars going 185 mph bouncing off each other or the walls, as they win or lose the race by inches? For example, Ricky Craven and Kurt Bush at Dover 2 years ago. If you have never seen it, find a way to. Maybe the best finish ever in motor sports.
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27. April 2005 @ 09:17 |
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Each to their own I suppose.....................
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but the racing is very follow the leader
That is really funny..........LMAO..............
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How offten do you see F1 cars going 185 mph bouncing off each other or the walls
Maybe is because they know how to drive..................
I would like to know HOW they go into the walls, is it because they forget to tie the rope onto the steering wheel and then fall asleep...........LMAO
You may actually find that an F1 car is built for aerodynamics and not 'Death mode'.
If the NASCAR cars had F1 technology they would fall apart........
To drive NASCAR all you need is no brain and 'popeye arms'........
But everyone has the right to their own opinion right...........
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27. April 2005 @ 09:29 |
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Good point, I guess the Stock cars are a little plain. But I guess that is the point, thus the name STOCK CAR.
But my question would be, if the F1 drivers are so good, why do they build the cars to pretty much drive themselves?
Or if F1 divers are really that superior, why is it that Juan Montoya (considered to be on of the best right now if I not mistaken) Can run a lap at Indy (in a car he drives all the time) then let Jeff Gordon run the same car at the same track and have Jeff only be a second off his time? If F1 drivers are that much better, shouldn't someone who races the cars all the time blow a guy out of the water who has never been in a F1 car before???? I guess its just those Popyee arms.
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chrono27
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27. April 2005 @ 11:09 |
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guys you got to stop comparing nascar with F1, theyr totally diferent. its true F1 cars almost drive by themselves but i bet with my karting expirience i can be as fast as those guys in nascar, cause theres not much science in turning left, nascar may be more popular in the US, but F1 is the most seen in the world couse you really need skills to drive and to set up the car.
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27. April 2005 @ 12:29 |
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Good call chrono27............
No comparison, F1 car vs NASCAR............Well you may just be able to see the NASCAR in the mirrors.............Eatin' dust......
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27. April 2005 @ 12:31 |
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"its true F1 cars almost drive by themselves"
You reckon?
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"but F1 is the most seen in the world couse you really need skills to drive and to set up the car."
So are they hard to drive or not? I am confused by these apparently contradicting statements.
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"cause theres not much science in turning left"
Depends on the left hander, does that apply to the blind left on a brow after Eau Rouges at Spa?
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"i bet with my karting expirience i can be as fast as those guys in nascar"
LOL!! Comparing karting to NASCAR?
ROTFLMAO!
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27. April 2005 @ 12:55 |
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This is too funny, good questions Pulsar. But he is right, because he has driven a Kart I bet he could run with the boys in NASCAR. In fact he has inspired me, I have thrown a baseball at least 10,000 times, I'm going to pitch for the Yankees. Look for me. As far as seeing Nascar in the mirror, your right, just before it runs F1 ass over. 10 years from now Nascar will be as big if not bigger than F1. The plans are already in motion to go over seas.
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27. April 2005 @ 13:47 |
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Won't be as popular as F1 in the UK, Superbikes and F1 here run very close to each other, but I do think superbikes just edge it actually........
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27. April 2005 @ 13:53 |
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Superbikes, now those boys are crazy. I havent actualy watch a whole race, but I have seen parts. Pretty cool.
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27. April 2005 @ 14:02 |
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Yeah, out of three that are being discussed, I would say that those guys certainly know how to race................with minimal technology and no roll cages...............just the back protectors/helmets/gloves and knee pads...........
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27. April 2005 @ 15:36 |
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What about that Rossi/Gibernau move? I thought it was pure class, racing as it was meant to be, riding by the seat of your pants. The Isle of Man TT is the ultimate bike race.
NASCAR will never be as popular in the UK, It is not technical enough, we also demand proper race tracks. Trees & walls, bends uphills & downhills. It would be interesting running the NASCARS around the old Hockenheim (minus the chicanes, in the good old days!) That was 100% throttle for 85% of the race. Spa would be the next challenge for them. Once I see them tackle a track like that, then I will have a look.
The bike GPs are getting more interesting as each race passes. I would like to see the Paris-Dakar rally televised & a bit more moto-ross. Some hope! Far too much football & golf for my liking.
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chrono27
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27. April 2005 @ 15:50 |
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you know pulsar i got kind of mad when you made fun of my tread, but when you laugh at comparing nascar to kart made me wonder if you ever driven at least your mama's minivan, in case you didnt know karting is the basic of all driven motor sports, if you wnat to make it to F1 you must have proven yourself at go-kart, and in case you didnt know the f1 cars do almost drive by them self, but is the in race settings like break andjustment to each corner is what makes the diference, just watch as how the drivers are always tweaking som knob on the stering whell to improve race performance.
il see if i can post a pic of a stereng wheel so you canse what im talking about
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27. April 2005 @ 16:20 |
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I am well aware of the steering wheel capabilities in F1 cars. They cost £20K+. I am also fully aware of the basic driving principles, Senna had his own style even whilst he karted. The thing is, is that, you made quite a bold statement. (And are, therefore, leaving yourself wide open!)We would all like to think we would be handy round a race track, I include myself in that, bike or car. Just 'cos I may be quick on the road & rarely get overtaken by anyone else on a bike. does not mean I would be quick on a race track.
If you wish to get really technical you could make all the cars remote control, driven from the pitlane. It is possible, I suppose, but not much fun. Would a computer be able to feel the way a car is handling like a driver can?, I think not. The driver is fundamental. You are oversimplifying your arguement. Without the driver, there would be nothing.
The truth is that, to race an F1 car you have to be reasonably competent. The same, I guess, could be said for NASCAR. The 2 are leagues apart. To be a good driver is not just about going round a track for a couple of hours every other Sunday. There is a lot of work involved. Not many are cut out for it. They are just not good enough. Look at how F1 is. There are only a handful of really talented drivers in the whole pack.
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27. April 2005 @ 16:41 |
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Yes, Michael was a terror in Karts in the early 80's!
It's perfect for learning lines, and identifies the talented at an early age. Well known.
Nascar is okay I guess (it's an American thing).
The cars are huge, heavy and slow, with relatively narrow tires.
They're carburated, and mostly turn left.
It's OK to bump into the other guys - it's called "rubbin".
The fields are huge and the tracks short; there is plenty of action.
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You reckon?
Hah! That sure isn't true.
Actually F1 cars are very edgy to drive these days, quite nervous below 10/10th speeds, hard to learn (hard to go slow in).
It was a credit to Jeff Gordon that he drove the Williams so well, so quickly :^)
He's not used to downforce - Montoya would have told him, if he didn't go fast through the corners the car might lose traction...
It must've sounded all-good to Gordon ;^)
He's just fast. A fast guy is fast - what was truly bizarre for him, he said, was the insane braking. LoL
Nascar actually runs 2 roadcourse events each season.
It's always a hoot, especially Watkins Glen (I love Watkins Glen).
They always hire special drivers (ringers) for these events, guys like Toronto local Ron Fellows.
Those real racetracks are a whole different ballgame...
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