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25. March 2006 @ 10:53 |
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Don't really have or believe in "heros" as such, but Senna was without doubt one of the finest F1 drivers that has ever lived. His death was such a tragedy, as well as Roland Ratzenberger on the previous day. I saw it all live & could not believe it when they announced his death later on in the day.
It would have been interesting to see what would have happened in the following years if he had not died. His style of driving was incredible, his calculated aggression & determination to win were second to none.
I don't think anyone could match him, not even Schumacher.
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25. March 2006 @ 11:11 |
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yeah the battles we missed out on between Senna and MS would have been legendary.
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25. March 2006 @ 11:34 |
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The show has changed a lot from the romantic days.
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25. March 2006 @ 18:32 |
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Yes, and of course they were battling at that moment - Michael was right behind him on the track wasn't he?
They say Ayrton's tires were very cold, and he was not enjoying driving that year's Williams FW15C, it wasn't working well for him.
But he was my guy, terrible shock.
Michael is still going strong though eh lads?
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25. March 2006 @ 19:47 |
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From what I have read it was a suspension failure, the onboard footage seemed to show him driving straight into the wall, the car making no effort to steer round. Senna was too good a driver to make a fundamental mistake like go round tamburello(?) flat out on cold tyres. As far as I am aware, the Italian authorities have never released the car back to Williams, I have a documentary about it, I will have a hunt for it & give it a look, just to confirm my suspicions.
Funnily enough, Prost saw/walked past Senna the day before, Senna paused for a second, Prost noticed, Prost had the feeling that Senna wanted to speak, but they never did.
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26. March 2006 @ 06:47 |
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Senna was too good a driver to make a fundamental mistake like go round Tamburello flat out on cold tyres
I agree but I don't think Senna thought like that, if he did it okay it wouldn't have been a mistake - it wasn't a mistake until he crashed.
I think he believed he was the one best suited to circle on cold rubber; that he could fly out in front before others' tires warmed up...
Michael was pushing him (on cold tires too) and he must've thought 'I am Ayrton Senna - if anyone can master this miserable car it is me. Watch and learn, young German upstart...'
Michael's onboard camera shows Senna was very low, trailing showers of sparks over every little bump.
It was just a very unique unusual shunt, survivable except for getting speared through the head by broken suspension - many apparently worse carnage & destruction accidents, the pilot survives.
But it was very tough. Alain Prost you would expect would miss Senna less than some... but I'm sure it's not so.
Nobody EVER thought Senna could die (and Ayrton was in complete agreement).
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26. March 2006 @ 09:16 |
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i seem to remember something about the car bottoming out for a split second, which effected the steering, and as he corrected he regained traction and it sent him off course. They say it was one of those weird fluke things, like a 1 in a million shot. Didn't they also more or less confirm that it wasn't the impact that killed him, but the front right tire came up and smacked him in the head or something? In either case it was a tragic loss to the racing world, but i doubt he would have wanted to go out any other way.
He will never be forgotten, when anyone speaks of F1 greatness, Senna always comes up. I named one of my twins after him, so he damn sure wont be forgotten around my house.
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26. March 2006 @ 11:51 |
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one of those weird fluke things, like a 1 in a million shot
Oh yes, definitely - right before my eyes, couldn't believe it.
On television; I was not in Italy.
It's like losing a harddisk, it's going to happen (figure of speech)
You hear about such things, then Bam! there it is right in front of you, and you are in disbelief the whole time...
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26. March 2006 @ 12:03 |
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I like the comparison of losing one of the worlds' most talented drivers to a HD crash.
Not.
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8. May 2006 @ 08:49 |
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I passed Neph's abandoned Gun Thread coupla pages back, looking for the F1 thread ;^)
MICHAEL! Yes.
Honda very unreliable...
McLarens are lurking. Alonso much faster than Fisi in same car.
Massa doing much better than Giancarlo...
We love Jacques V. in Canada (of course :^) and it was funny to see Fisi yelling at him on Saturday. Fisi called him a 'bastardo' LoL.
So cornering speeds are way up this year?
I would rather see light cars with serious traction, than heavy sleds on greasy rubber (can you say Nascar?) so for me, it is an improvement.
I will see when I stand at the Pit Chicane (turn 14/15) in Montreal - they approach at ~325kph (but maybe not so fast this year...)
But standing on the infield side turn 15, it is unbelievable! Your eyes tell your brain what you're seeing is impossible.
Every now & then they whack the wall there - this seems to reassure the brain that the laws of physics are still, in fact, intact thank goodness...
Can't wait!
So, who do you like in Spain, lads?
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9. May 2006 @ 19:52 |
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dont know why but i'm leaning towards kimi in spain. i think the homecrowd pressure will be too much for alonso. but hey he's surprized me before so who knows.
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13. May 2006 @ 06:45 |
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Wow - they have beaten the Lap Records (slaughtered them, actually) in these new 2.4 litre cars! Amazing.
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17. May 2006 @ 09:55 |
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Ferrari messed up this time , with the strategy .. shouldn't have fuelled Schuey so heavy :(
But still it's great to see the them back fighting for the championship again/at last :-)
Also , what do we think about the speculation of Kimi driving alongside Michael next year ? [would love to see it myself]
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17. May 2006 @ 14:40 |
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Y'know Herbs, I think Kimi has just had it - he's not so fast compared to last year. Maybe it's just now sinking in how close he came to winning it all last year. He'll be lucky to get back up there again...
But maybe Mercedes will come up with a new killa motor, it could happen, McLaren will be fast again.
I think I like the new cars & engines this year... I hear they have a particularly nasty sound to them, very hard on the 'drums, piercing and flinch-inducing (and wonderful) all at the same time, LoL :^)
Edit - don't get me wrong, Kimi's a great driver and I like him.
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I wouldn't be upset if you outright disrespected him [kimi] .. I've been agaianst him winning because I want Ferraris to win every time they take to the track - lol
it's just that I am now wondering if Kimi has lost that edge that you're referring to , or is the car that terribly slow compared to usual years/seasons. I think Mercedes have been pumping the money into the wrong part of the company in the last few years (like building the huge upto date , very suave & lavish HQ here in the U.K) and not into making sure they were technologically up with all the top competition. But hey , that may pay off for them in years to come.
Anyway , was good to hear another veiwpoint The_OGS .. cheers ears :)
P.S I think Kimi can still be the decent driver he was if he keeps a positive mindset/attitude (he always seemed a bit too arrogant , but I dont watch F1 for their personalities - lol). Plus an interview w/ the Fin seems like hard work trying to listen to his mumbles & understand. heheh
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18. May 2006 @ 18:55 |
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ok dammit, i go thru this every year but what the hell....is anyone coming to the USGP??
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21. May 2006 @ 08:34 |
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LoL :^) You should be asking 'will Michelin bring tires this year' hehe
I mean, really! Mario Andretti and Parnelli Jones etc. were flying around Indy @ 250MPH lap after lap, hour after hour, in the 1960's fer gawdsake. For Michelin to show up and decide their tires aren't up to the job, is just so inept - it's boggling!
I was in Speedway Indiana Sept.24/2000 for the first USGP there.
Got a Tshirt, mug, foam coolie, and several lucite keychain thingies (one of which I am holding now, still in its sealed package) and I'm not going back anytime soon.
I CAN tell you that the place to be is on the infield (Holman Boulevard or whatever they call it). The action from the enormous grandstands seems distant; too quiet and... underwhelming.
Going to a F1 race means being trackside Friday 9AM, it is of course a 3-day event, but I missed Friday (and most of Saturday) when I went down to Indy and maybe that's why my memories seem very 'rushed' LoL...
Darth, Herbs, all North Americans (Pulsar must fly) should come up to Canada in June and experience a proper roadcourse race setting for F1.
The very strong European flavour of the F1 circus is always on display in Montreal - entire blocks of the downtown entertainment district roped-off to traffic, with countless dozens of Ferraris all up one side of Crescent Street, and Bentleys Porches and Lambos all down the other side :^)
The fabulous food and drink, limos and private jets, girls and just MONEY on display Saturday night, alone are worth the annual pilgrimage! Race weekend Saturday night, I can always be found in the Super Sex bar on St. Catherine Street. (It's unbelievable ;^)
So, who will qualify in Monaco?
It's all down to who starts first... could be a McLaren I s'pose - or a Honda!? Rubens on a single blinding fast lap?
Qualifying will be the key,
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21. May 2006 @ 09:28 |
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Spa is the one for me...I would have to fly to Canada anyway, what with me living in the UK!
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27. May 2006 @ 12:47 |
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I live near London myself , so obvious choice for me is Silverstone .. but its so fookin' expensive (would be cheaper to drive thru chunnel to France - Magny Cours).
I very much concur w/ Spa being fave track too :-)
P.S. Heard on qualifying of Monaco today @ lunchtime that Mr.Michellin died recently in freak boating accident (wow).
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27. May 2006 @ 13:34 |
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That was a sneaky move by Schumacher today, at the press interview he was uncannily uneasy!
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27. May 2006 @ 15:50 |
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LOL - he did look a little shadey in the after quals interview ,but I don't believe for a moment that he pulled that manoeuvre on purpose myself .. no matter if the whole grid thinks it ; )
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27. May 2006 @ 15:54 |
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P.S. I find this interesting :
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? verb (manoeuvred, manoeuvring) 1 perform a physical manoeuvre. 2 carefully manipulate in order to achieve an end.
lmao no.2 could have written for todays incident in some peoples eyes :-)
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29. May 2006 @ 09:32 |
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Kimi and Mark Weber both got jobbed again - not present at the finish!
It is, of course, a bit of an endurance race and those poor bastages have unreliable equipment.
Man, I'm prayin' for these Renaults to break down but they just don't...
Why do the Williams and BMW always blow up, and the Ferrari and Renault never do?!
In the post-race press conference I was impressed with the 'presence' of Alonso - his personality, intelligence and charm (not always so simple with English as a second language).
I was contrastingly unimpressed with Montoya - his shifty eyes, his pre-prepared blurb that he began to quote before Windsor had even finished asking him his lead-in question, his poor command of language and lack of charm.
Montoya may well be as fast as Alonso, but that alone will not see him employed by a top team next year...
Anyway Michael did very well and I am happy for him :^)
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11. June 2006 @ 08:07 |
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Yo! What's up with Jenson Button?
Surely they can't call him to the weighscales during the 15 minute timed first qualifying session, can they?
He said he did only 1 lap and then they took him to be weighed...
While the other cars were circulating, in the middle of the (short) session?
That doesn't seem right, to me ;^(
Damn Renaults are too reliable. Man I would love to see someone accidentally take Alonso out...
Or just get a flat tire, or something!! Yeesh.
Kimi and Michael did well. Next stop - Canada! Got my hands on some $$ so I will be there,
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21. June 2006 @ 10:01 |
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Hey where are you guys - no F1 fans anymore?
Poor ol' AfterDawn - it's a real Console Game forum now, isn't it? LoL ;^(
Things are hotting up in Montreal :^)
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/section.html?section=Grand+Prix
I'm telling you, Honda is upset and we're going to see some stuff from them. They could be quick in Montreal...
I just hope a Renault doesn't win.
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