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5. September 2004 @ 11:29 |
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I noticed svp have started selling Taiyo Yuden disks too at a price I know they didn't get from an official TY distributor. I suspect they got the cheap TY rejects I was offered from taiwan a couple of months back, their pricing is about right for the disks I got offered, but I phoned TY to confirm authenticity and they knew absolutely nothing about them.
NakedGeek
How can you state this in contradiction of the description on their websiteQuote:
{DV 3138} Taiyo Yuden (8x) Unbranded DVD-R in Heavy Duty Spindle Tubs of 100
The Taiyo Yuden discs sold by SVP are genuine Taiyo Yuden bought from an official Taiyo Yuden distributor.
Please note that there are many vendors selling discs with a TY media code that are not genuine Taiyo Yuden discs.
I have sampled their Taiyo Yuden disc and can say that they live up to the Taiyo Yuden reputation that I would have expected.
THEY ARE NOT LIKE THE NAKED-GEEK MEDIA I REVIEWED on media-help which was pulled by request of Naked-Geek because he thought it was an unfair assessment of the poor quality AN32 media
I know who I will trade with for quality media and it's not NAKED-GEEK
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NakedGeek
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5. September 2004 @ 11:45 |
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Actually, yes I am, Lordsmruf (the creator of the site you just cited) is a complete arse with about as much knowledge of dvdr technology as one would expect a smurf to have, absolutely jack shit.
The site is the worst "media" site I have ever seen, his comments are completely opinionated and in no way based on objective testing what so ever. I would be willing to bet even Shaf knows more about dvdr technology than that clown. The site is full of completely stupid inferences and in my opinion anyone who takes any stock of what he says, is nothing more than a pathetic sheep trying to stay with the in crowd. Everyone I know in the industry has as much a laugh at his site as I do, and I know a LOT of people in the industry.
If you are going to justify yourself by citing that idiot, good luck to you, and frankly, it explains your idiotic reply, go get a real brain.
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5. September 2004 @ 11:50 |
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Flash, TY only have ONE official distributor for the UK and the prices they offer are a long away above what SVP are charging for their TYs, I know what their prices are because I do business with them myself. So unless SVP are using an unofficial supplier, I cannot see how they are offering them for the price they are.
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5. September 2004 @ 12:12 |
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If you mean Golding then thats where SVP purchase their Taiyo Yuden discs from.
Perhaps if you made more substantial purchases maybe they would quote you better prices.
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5. September 2004 @ 12:25 |
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-IF- they got them from Golding (and I will know on Monday) then yes they are legit TYs, but the price they are selling them for is lower than any price I got from them irrespective of quantity, hense my disbelief. When I speak to my sales manager at Golding tomorrow I will post the information I get.
The last bunch of TY disks SVP had in were by their own admission from china, or at least that is what they told me when I phoned them up to enquire and since they went to the trouble of opening a pack to get the stamper serial number for me, I don't think they were lying to me.
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5. September 2004 @ 12:43 |
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ALEX
Steve the MD of SVP has been watching this thread closely and has taken great offence to your inferences and has asked if you would telephone him (TONIGHT if possible) to resolve this matter
Call him on 07974 804 001
Steve has personally asked me to publish his personal phone number and against my better judgement I have done so at his request
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StinHambo
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5. September 2004 @ 12:56 |
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Hahaha interesting!
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NakedGeek
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5. September 2004 @ 12:58 |
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You should have just PM'd me his number but I will call him tomorrow, it is way too late now. He has no reason to be concerned, if he did indeed buy the disks from golding, as I clearly stated, I would publish it here tomorrow.
As I also said at the beginning of this, I have no ill intentions towards SVP they are a nice bunch of people, but when I get offered fake TYG02 from Taiwan at a price that would be in line with what SVP are charging and am told by TY themselves that they have zero knowledge of them, it has to be expected that I will be suspicious of TYs coming onto the market at that price. Especially since I deal with Golding myself and their prices for 8x TYs were much higher than what SVP are charging after VAT is added. Hence why I said I would phone Golding tomorrow. If they are legit, then they are a great price and I will admit it, but I will need proof first.
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5. September 2004 @ 13:02 |
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You should have just PM'd me his number but I will call him tomorrow
Steve is quite happy for you to phone him tonight and would rather not wait overnight to resolve this situation
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5. September 2004 @ 13:04 |
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I would rather speak to Golding first.
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StinHambo
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5. September 2004 @ 13:05 |
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Let us know what he says Alexander!
I am sus about his 'Manufactured by Fuji' disks as well seeing that Fuji know nothing of them!
If they are then maybe it should read 'Rejected by Fuji'
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NakedGeek
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5. September 2004 @ 13:08 |
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I will do.
Like I said, if they are legit, then I take my hat off to SVP and recommend everyone to go buy their TY disks because the price they have them advertised at is nothing less than remarkable. But if they are fakes then, well enough said.
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5. September 2004 @ 13:16 |
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Like I said, if they are legit, then I take my hat off to SVP and recommend everyone to go buy their TY disks
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I noticed svp have started selling Taiyo Yuden disks too at a price I know they didn't get from an official TY distributor
Which is true??
My bet is on SVP a well established respected retailer.
If you are wrong in your original statement surely that is a huge error to make?
To liable a respected retailer!
What sort of retailer does that make you?
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NakedGeek
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5. September 2004 @ 13:20 |
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Like I said, if I am wrong, I will admit I am wrong. But until I have proof I simply do not believe it. I have edited my original post to something more suitable.
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6. September 2004 @ 03:48 |
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Ok guys, I have to be careful what I say here so bare with me as it is a legal minefield.
I just got off the phone with Golding who have confirmed they did ship some stock to SVP but at a much higher price than they are selling them. There is a lot more to it than this but I can't discuss it in any more detail until I hear back from Golding this afternoon.
Golding are very pissed off with SVP for reasons I will make clear later on, but until I have had the rest of the story from Golding I really can't say anymore.
I suspect this is why SVP were in such a hurry for me to phone them last night. They are definitely selling the stock they received from Golding at a price MUCH lower than they bought them. I will keep you all informed.
Now Flash, what do you say to that?
NakedGeek
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StinHambo
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6. September 2004 @ 03:53 |
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Mmmm very interesting...
Vodka and Tonic?
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NakedGeek
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6. September 2004 @ 04:00 |
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Well the facts are a lot more sinister than I have posted, but I am waiting for the rest of the story from Golding first, so I have only given you the tip of the iceberg. They are going to phone me back this afternoon. unfortunately, Michelle, who dealt with the sale is on vacation so the person dealing with it at the moment is trying to get to the bottom of it, but he was as concerned about the situation as I am.
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6. September 2004 @ 06:04 |
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Just out of curiousity, if the MD of SVP was so concerned as to have his mobile phone number published on a public forum, why does he not simply explain himself in the thread? If he is already reading it, then we would all like to hear his side of the story I am sure, I know I do.
I have not heard back from Golding yet, I have my suspicians why, but if i do not hear back from them before the close of business today, I will fully disclose the information they gave me on the phone earlier today.
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StinHambo
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6. September 2004 @ 06:10 |
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Ooh the excitement!
Can you PM me with the information Alex?
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6. September 2004 @ 07:10 |
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So you admit that the Taiyo Yuden discs that SVP are selling are genuine and you were wrong when you falsely made this statement Quote:
I know they didn't get from an official TY distributor. I suspect they got the cheap TY rejects
That?s all I wanted to hear I don't give a dam if you cannot sell the same media at a competitive price!
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NakedGeek
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6. September 2004 @ 07:15 |
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No I said they purchased SOME media from golding, the rest of the story will come out at close of business. And my original statement was indeed correct when i stated I know they didn't get the price from an official supplier, I was indeed correct, they never got that price from the supplier at all.
It will all come out in the wash this evening and once again you will look rather silly flash.
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6. September 2004 @ 07:19 |
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But are they the same quality as A Grade TY Flash?
Trouble is a lot of people just see the manufacturer and assume it's Grade A. Like Ritek, people live off the back of the reputation.
It's like Mercedes making cheap shoddy cars but the seller saying, it's a Mercedes. The manufacturer means squat in this case but people aren't aware of that. It's high time that this was brought to peoples attention and the reputation sharks be revealed for what they are. Con artists!
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6. September 2004 @ 07:58 |
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But are they the same quality as A Grade TY Flash?
As far as I am concerned the media is accurately described on the web site and I have no problems with them.
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6. September 2004 @ 08:04 |
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Will we be getting an apology from you Flash if NAked Geek proves they are not?
Not being funny but playing devil's advocate!
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6. September 2004 @ 08:11 |
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Well 5pm has arrived so here is the information I was given this morning by Golding.
The recently sold some stock to SVP FACT
The stock was sold to SVP at a MUCH higher price than SVP are reselling them FACT
SVP since ordering, have demanded a credit note from Golding on the basis that THEY CAN BUY TY FROM ASIA FOR A PRICE INDICATIVE OF THE PRICE THEY ARE RESELLING THEM (I put that in caps for Flash). FACT
Any TY disks that come from Asia are UNOFFICIAL stock and WILL BE OF SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER QUALITY (FACT confirmed by both Golding AND TY's European HQ).
The person I spoke to at Golding also speculated that he believes SVP have already received unofficial low grade stock from Asia.
Golding are investigating this, Taiyo Yuden are investigating this.
So what I would like to hear from the MD of SVP right here, in the open is the following:
Are you mixing unofficial stock from asia with official taiyo yudens?
Where is the stock from that you have advertised on your website, is it from Golding or a 3rd Party Asian Supplier or a combination of the 2?
If the stock you are selling on your website is all from Golding, can we assume that the price will go up or are you going to continue to sell them at a substantial loss?
Also, why do you think you have the right to buy stock at an agreed price (which is contractual) and then try and hold the supplier to ransom demanding a credit note to put the prices inline with inferior unofficial stock? Do you think that is ethical business practise? I do not.
I am not accusing SVP of anything, I am merely passing on the information that has been given to me by Golding, if SVP refuse to comment on the situation, then we only have 1 side of the story to base our opinion from.
So lets hear it SVP, what is really going on?
NakedGeek
PS: Golding are really pissed off with you.
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