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IMPORTANT NOTICE - BAD MEDIA - UK
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MrYang
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16. July 2004 @ 07:07 |
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Yes Bigpockets, SVP (Blankdiscshop) etc are all in the pocket of E-net, basically if you see a website selling any of the E-net brands then you can be pretty sure they buy most of their media from them... I get customers calling me every day saying they are fed up buying rubbish discs and want out of the loop.
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CloneDisc is an original Ritek produced media coming from Ritek factory or not? Then as you are the authorized Ritek distributor, why don't you sell "Ritek" logo branded DVD-R media
Regarding the above the two Ritek brands I do are Traxdata and CloneDisc, i concentrate on those two as they are guaranteed best quality, most of the brands in the UK that claim to be official Ritek brands are not Ritek brands (name all the Ritek supplied by E-net).. even the Arita he sells is fake overprinted DIY discs!
Piodata is grey imported Ritek, Ridisc is an E-Net disc, Ridata is also grey import.
As to the Goalover, yes I tried it, did get some good results but didnt work on everything.
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StinHambo
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16. July 2004 @ 07:44 |
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I too have tested the Goallover and they ore ok disks.
The trouble is, by just putting Ritek as a brand it guarantees nothing as it could be an A, B, C or lower grade.
A brand is given to guarantee a grade in quality, hence why Toyota launched the Lexus brand.
If Trax were to release a C grade their brand would mean nothing and they would lose customers so it is in their interest to keep the quality high.
Look what happened to Datasafe Reds once the quality dropped. People will always associate them with pants quality from now on...
I hope this answers some of your questions.
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totos
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16. July 2004 @ 09:16 |
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Thanks very much Mr. Yang. Your information was quite helpful!
I had a look in your web site and could find a lot of interesting DVD and CD products. But I couldn't find any of DVD-R Traxdata, only DVD+R. Will you bring in some quite soon? Also I had a look in the CloneDisc you told me that are Ritek A grade. Very nice, but have you got any with Logo? If no, are you thinking to introduced any of them with Logo on top surface? (It would be nice so that one could write down info more easily).
Finally, I have heard of another brand, PrimeDisk, and a friend of mine who tested them told me they are of high quality, the same of Traxdata, and that they are manufactured by Ritek (Grade A). What do you think of this?
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totos
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16. July 2004 @ 16:24 |
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Also something else about my previous page question Mr Yang, secifically about the Ritek Branded (with logo of Ritek): Is there a Ritek branded DVD-R made by Ritek in fact, or this is just an "invention" of E-net?
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StinHambo
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17. July 2004 @ 01:47 |
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As far as I'm aware it's something that e-N*t have devised unless it is a far east only brand and they have imported it.
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totos
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17. July 2004 @ 04:32 |
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StinHampo I have the same question with you, and in the case that this is a device of E-Net it is very strange. Because I cannot imagine a company uses the brand name of a giant like Ritek without its permission...
But maybe Mr. Yang can give us an explanation as he seems a bussinesman who knows very well this industry.
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555
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17. July 2004 @ 05:36 |
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StinHambo
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18. July 2004 @ 11:04 |
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Clonedisc isn't a brand owned by Ritek. It is a brand made by Ritek for us based on their Grade A Printable disc. So it's basically the same as a Traxdata DVD-R in terms of quality.
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Dave22
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18. July 2004 @ 12:21 |
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www.clonedisc.com
Registrant:
DVD-and-Media.com
Unit 44 Lackaghboy Ind Estate
Enniskillen
Fermanagh
BT74 4RL
UK
If this is a original ritek disk maybe mr yang can tell us how the site for clone disk is registered to his company.
Strange when E-net do this there disk is a forgery (strange hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm).
I think some one is playing the joker :.(
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jase
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18. July 2004 @ 12:42 |
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I don't get this "forgery" nonsense anyway.
Whilst I'm no fan of e-net and their products, the discs they sell as "Ritek" are manufactured by Ritek, and anyone who suggests otherwise is misleading.
The difference comes from whether discs are sold directly by Ritek to the distributor or whether they are sold through a third party (and generally are not A or B grade media).
It is my understanding that most e-net stock comes through third-party Asian suppliers (though the discs do originate from Ritek initially).
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NakedGeek
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18. July 2004 @ 14:19 |
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Jase,
You are correct. The dispute about e-n*t has never been about whether or not they are real riteks, but whether or not they are being sold at their real grade and the supplier you mentioned in asia have stated they are not a grade but they are c and d grade riteks being rebranded. This is the problem. If they were to brand the media at the correct grade I would have no issues, since people would then not be being misled.
Alexander Hanff
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MrYang
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19. July 2004 @ 03:40 |
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Yes E-net just rebrand or overprint downgraded stock - thats not in question.
Dave22... get a life mate - you still havent told us who you are or who you work for, if you were serious about having your opinion listened to then you would have no problem telling us who you are, perhaps you think you are a competitor of mine or perhaps you just buy odd DVD's here and there and think you know the business!
And yes I do own the CloneDisc brand and yes its an offical OEM brand of Ritek - so as I said get a life and get off the thread unless your gonna tell us who you are.
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TerrificF
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19. July 2004 @ 06:22 |
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Richo supplies Ritek with stamper and dye. After that, Richo buys back final products from Ritek but only "super A grade". Ritek has to get rid of those "down grade" or "false printing" DVDs that is the reason why you see "Arita", "Mountain and Water", "Dataxxxx",...etc. on market. Every media manufacturer got some "false" DVD while production. Nobody has 100% yield rate.
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TerrificF
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19. July 2004 @ 06:40 |
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Officially Ritek has Traxdata, Ridata and Arita 3 brands for European market. Ritek is selling "Ritek" brand only in Asia, mainly in Taiwan. Whatever people can find in Europe is importing by local traders. Nobody is legally authorized by Ritek Taiwan. Other brands with Ritek's code are all private labels and OEM.
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NakedGeek
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19. July 2004 @ 06:49 |
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That is simply not true, if you go and have a look on Ritek's own website, you will see the list of Official European Distributors/Resellers clearly on there. So yes they do have official resellers.
Alexander Hanff
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totos
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19. July 2004 @ 07:20 |
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TerrificF, you are saying that Ritek sells its own branded (Ritek Logo) DVDs in Asia. Yes, but as 555 proposed if you go to the Ritek website, you will see the the Ritek branded DVD-R has a different looks, different than the ones sold out (the ones sourced mainly by E-Net). Except they have recently changed its looks...
As for you Dave22 you were asked to tell who you are. So since you have a recordable media business as you say, you don't have the right to come here anonymously, and accuse people like Mr. Yang who has the courage and honesty to say what he says under his name. You only ruin this nice discussion this way.
Mr. Yang, can you please tell me -as I had asked you in my previous question- if you offer any branded Ritek A Grade DVD-Rs? I could find only white top CloneDisc DVD-R in your site, but couldnt find any Traxdata DVD-R (only Traxdata DVD+R you have?) or other branded DVD-R by Ritek? So, have you got any Traxdata DVD-R, or any CloneDisc DVD-R branded?
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TerrificF
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19. July 2004 @ 08:06 |
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I need a faviour from Mr. Yang. Dear 'Mr. Yang', you know me for two years. Did I ever 'lie' or tell something 'untrue'? Dora
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NakedGeek
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19. July 2004 @ 10:23 |
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TerrificF
If you go to www.ritek.com.tw and click on the "Services" button you will see who their EU distributor is. If you then contact that distributor and ask who they are supplying in the UK, you have a list of "Official" ritek sellers, since they are buying from the official EU distributor.
All media factories, if you contact them, will tell you who their official distributors are if they have any, or at least that is my experience, and I have contacted many factories.
I wasn't calling you a liar, just pointing out the error of your statement. Sorry if I caused offense.
Alexander Hanff
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NakedGeek
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19. July 2004 @ 10:28 |
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555,
Conrexx also do OEM riteks for the european market. So if a ritek is OEM'd to a different brand name (like in my case) and this is done by conrexx, then they are also official riteks since they are still coming from an official distributor, they just get printed up by conrexx instead of at the ritek factory, or for substantially large orders, I presume conrexx would get ritek to OEM them for them in Taiwan.
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netski123
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19. July 2004 @ 10:32 |
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anyone got contact details for e-net? website or tel. no will do
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funbobby
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19. July 2004 @ 10:37 |
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AN32 Discs Sux The Big One!!!!
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TerrificF
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19. July 2004 @ 12:19 |
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Dear NakedGeek, I don't blame you because you don't know who I am but Mr. Yang from DVD-AND-MEDIA.COM, Shaf from Enet, Steve from SVP, Garry from All4mats, Kieron from DVD Technology,...etc. can tell you who I am. By the way, I appointed almost all those distributors of Ritek in Europe. So I know what I am talking about.
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Dave22
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19. July 2004 @ 12:58 |
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Who are you to say I have know right. and dont you think what you are saying is biased towards Mr Wang.
Who I am is of little importance. I came on to this forum to see what peoples views on different disk were and all I see is x2 sellers bigging up there own disks and slating everyone else.
I am who you want me to be a market trader or a supplier you choose.
Also TerrificF you forgot Josh at ghetto media, Phil from disctech, and simon from bigpockets and I would have said peat neads a mention at SVP, oops and there is david at MT.
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Dave22... get a life mate - you still havent told us who you are or who you work for, if you were serious about having your opinion listened to then you would have no problem telling us who you are, perhaps you think you are a competitor of mine or perhaps you just buy odd DVD's here and there and think you know the business!
No I am not a competitor of yours and would not wish to be we are a world apart you deal drom NI and I deal from wales.
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Dave22
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19. July 2004 @ 13:02 |
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NakedGeek
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19. July 2004 @ 13:44 |
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That China Times quote means nothing. It does not say that e-n*t deal with ritek at all, it merely says they buy a lot of riteks, not whom they buy them off. When you email ritek ask for a response from the CEO regarding his knowledge of e-n*t.
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