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29. August 2008 @ 19:28 |
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Mine didn't. It kept the overclock.
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29. August 2008 @ 19:29 |
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Good, I'm not the only one then... :)
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29. August 2008 @ 21:04 |
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Mort81,
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I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. every mobo I've had, even my old gigabyte, reset everything in the bios to default settings when I flashed the bios.
By not clearing the bios, the information you see in thee bios may not be reliable! I found that to be the case with my MB when someone had done things wrong in the bios when it was mis-delivered. I re-flashed it to F11, cleared the bios by removing the battery and had no problems after that!
abuzar1 and sammorris,
Would you guys mind not using the thread for chat. Half the time I don't know who the hell you are talking too! It's maddening to have to look back and try to figure what the hell you are talking about. Other posts get in between and that aggravates the problem. At least address the post to someone! It will avoid confusion for everyone else! Thanks Guys!
Best Regards,
Russ
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29. August 2008 @ 21:15 |
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Haha, alrighty then.
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29. August 2008 @ 21:23 |
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I have never seen a bios keep user settings made within the bios after an upgrade. The whole purpose of flashing a bios is that it is first wiped before it is flashed and the flashed version is always set to default. If you have the same settings after flashing then you're using the same bios you had before flashing, or you are overclocking inside of windows using software that came with your board. In that case the settings would be reset each time windows boots up.
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29. August 2008 @ 22:08 |
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I'm DEFINITELY not using the same BIOS or overclocking from Windows.
I checked in CPU-Z and it went from F1 to F5. Also all my problems were solved. So the BIOS def. changed.
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29. August 2008 @ 22:22 |
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I'm DEFINITELY not using the same BIOS or overclocking from Windows
I'm open minded. Show me an example somewhere where a bios does not revert to default after being flashed. Remember that your old bios is being completely deleted, erased, removed in total, and that the new one contains none of your settings nad it completely replaces the old bios. Now in the old days when overclocking was done by physically setting jumpers on the motherboard retaining previous settings made sense since flashing the bios can't move pins. Now what is the make and model of your board again?
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29. August 2008 @ 22:27 |
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Well I cant show you an example and I honestly don't care enough to search. In the spirit of laziness, you're right :)
I had a GA-EP35-DS3L.
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29. August 2008 @ 22:32 |
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NOT to take any sides but I used the @BIOS thingy. lol. Flashed my P35-DS3P with F9 I think (sorry it's setting "cold" right now with the DFI/Q6600 running) and all my settings went back to "default". Just my experience anyway. ;)
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30. August 2008 @ 01:24 |
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Sophocles,
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I have never seen a bios keep user settings made within the bios after an upgrade. The whole purpose of flashing a bios is that it is first wiped before it is flashed and the flashed version is always set to default. If you have the same settings after flashing then you're using the same bios you had before flashing, or you are overclocking inside of windows using software that came with your board. In that case the settings would be reset each time windows boots up.
It's not that it keeps the settings, it's the range of the settings at issue here. They apparently don't report accurately! The settings are there as you flashed them, which apparently changes the scale of the current settings. All I know is I Flashed it, Pulled the battery for 5 minutes or so, as instructed by the tech Rep at Gigabyte, and when I restored all my old settings in the setup, it worked perfectly. Everything was set exactly as it had been before the problem, and it still works perfect to this day, except for when I decided to flash the bios back to F10, because that was what was recommended for the E6750. As soon as I flashed it back to F11 it ran perfect again!
Personally, I've never seen that before either, but apparently the rep knew what he was talking about, as it worked! I honestly thought I was wasting my time and was going to need another MB! The settings were correct, but inaccurate until I cleared the bios!
Best Regards,
Russ
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30. August 2008 @ 07:18 |
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You'll just have to take our word for it, I'm not really about to record a video proving this fact.
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30. August 2008 @ 07:28 |
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I don't even have it anymore!
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30. August 2008 @ 07:35 |
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Russ
Bios settings are complete erased during the flash. It would be the same as recording completely different music over a cassette. Now if you overclocked using the motherboard software which most of them come with then could windows could reset everything. Since I've never used a software overclock on anything but a graphics card I can't say for certain. This is a quote from "Biosman Inc."
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Q. What just happend to my bios?
A. It's probably a goner. But... before giving us your money please read the FAQ's and try these recovery techniques. Next time remember that about 1 out of 100 BIOS flashes goes wrong. Flashing from Windows seems to be a huge culprit of bad flashes.
Q. What actually happens when I flash my BIOS?
A. When you flash your BIOS the flash utility performs the following steps.
· Load the DOS 4G Protected Mode Drivers
· Identify the flash part (the BIOS chip)
· Identify the flash part size and programming voltage
· Identify the motherboard chipset
· Verify the BIOS checksum (makes sure that the BIOS file is correct)
· Erases the BIOS 'System Block' (writes over the data with all 0?s)
· Rewrites the 'System Block' with the new BIOS
· Loads CMOS defaults and then reboots
If an error occurs within the first five steps of the flash process them an error message will be
displayed and the flash process will be aborted. Unfortunately if an error occurs after the flash
utility has erased the 'System Block' then the computer will not reboot.
http://www.biosman.com/faq.html
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30. August 2008 @ 07:41 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
This is a quote from "Biosman Inc."
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Q. What just happend to my bios?
A. It's probably a goner. But... before giving us your money please read the FAQ's and try these recovery techniques. Next time remember that about 1 out of 100 BIOS flashes goes wrong. Flashing from Windows seems to be a huge culprit of bad flashes.
Q. What actually happens when I flash my BIOS?
A. When you flash your BIOS the flash utility performs the following steps.
· Load the DOS 4G Protected Mode Drivers
· Identify the flash part (the BIOS chip)
· Identify the flash part size and programming voltage
· Identify the motherboard chipset
· Verify the BIOS checksum (makes sure that the BIOS file is correct)
· Erases the BIOS 'System Block' (writes over the data with all 0?s)
· Rewrites the 'System Block' with the new BIOS
· Loads CMOS defaults and then reboots
If an error occurs within the first five steps of the flash process them an error message will be
displayed and the flash process will be aborted. Unfortunately if an error occurs after the flash
utility has erased the 'System Block' then the computer will not reboot.
http://www.biosman.com/faq.html
Sophy I think both of those highlighted in red are worth mentioning. NOT that these people aren't seeing a "change" but is the BIOS complete? Anyway my take on things. ;)
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30. August 2008 @ 07:50 |
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Either way, this doesn't change the fact, I have never even installed a software overclocking util, and I have successfully flashed my BIOS, and it kept my overclock settings. Whether it should or not is a different matter, but this is what happened.
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30. August 2008 @ 07:54 |
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http://www.biosman.com/faq.html
Yes I should have quoted that too. The new bios is completely changed hence the purpose of not only erasing it but writing over it with "0's." When we used to erase a cassette before recording over it we were in effect doing the same thing we were realigning the particle polarity on the tape to represent North and South. This is called hysteresis. The benefit of doing that is to insure that none of the previous recording remains. If the bios didn't get completely reflashed and returned to default the results could and probably would be catastrophic for a motherboard which is why the added precaution of writing zeros. To salvage the board would require attempts at recovery, having the bios chip reflashed by a service, or replacing the chip altogether but that unfortunately often costs more than the board is worth.
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30. August 2008 @ 13:47 |
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hey guys. is there anyway i can adjust the chip set voltages on a p35-ds3l? my overclock for my q9550 has been limited to 8.5x400 and no amount of cpu voltage will get me above that. so i am guessing that i would need more north bridge voltage to get the higher fsb.
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30. August 2008 @ 14:32 |
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krj15489,
I think what you are looking for is the MCH (Memory Controller Hub) aka NB voltage.
also FYI, ICH stands for I/O Controller Hub aka SB voltage.
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30. August 2008 @ 14:42 |
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krj15489
What's the make and model of your memory modules. Memory is probably one of the most common predictors of an inability to move things forward.
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30. August 2008 @ 15:01 |
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KRJ, which BIOS are you using? Get the latest one, it helps a lot.
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30. August 2008 @ 16:08 |
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@mort thanks i will take another look through the bios for that
@soph i am using gskill 2x2 ddr2 1000. i am running it at 800 at the moment and i am sure that it is not the limiting factor here
@abuzar i am currently using the F7 bios. do you think it would help at all upgrading to F8?
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30. August 2008 @ 16:14 |
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It probably would. Especially because you have a Q9 CPU.
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30. August 2008 @ 16:21 |
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krj,
I looked at the manual for your mobo. looks like there is a setting for MCHv but not for ICHv. you really shouldn't need a setting for ICH anyway. maybe some adjustment to the FSBTv which I can't remember if it has that setting or not but surely does.
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30. August 2008 @ 16:26 |
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i just did a little tweaking with the MCH and i had to add .3 volts in order to boot windows at 3.5. i am worried that it might be to much voltage. is there any way to measure the temps for it? also what is FSBTv?
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30. August 2008 @ 16:36 |
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Originally posted by krj15489:
i just did a little tweaking with the MCH and i had to add .3 volts in order to boot windows at 3.5. i am worried that it might be to much voltage. is there any way to measure the temps for it? also what is FSBTv?
.3v is a pretty big increase. not positive but the default NBv is probably around 1.25v and that would take it to around 1.55v. a little high for my liking. 1.50v is about as high as I'm willing to go. mine is at 1.38v and my NB temp is 40c. my mobo temp is 33c. ambient is 76f.
you need to ask a gigabyte owner. I don't know if GB reports NB temp. you can try everest. FSBT = Front Side Buss Termination voltage.
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