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How do u make BitTorrent download faster? i have been searching the answer for days.
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biggermac
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27. October 2005 @ 13:30 |
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I am so used to no one doing the capital B small b thing correct I jumped to comclusions.. You wrote nothing wrong, but could have been a little bit more clear in that you changed from Kbps to KB/s when you mention 196 Kb/s..
I wish I could get hold of the bozo who started using Bytes after everyone used bits for so many years in reference to modem speed or data transfer rates.. A dial up modem was always in Kbps. well no, it was baud wasn't it? 2400 baud. Then USR came out with a 9600 but wasn't insdustry compliant. Then the 14400 baud which probably equates to 14.4 Kbps (??), then the fastest possible dial-up modem was and is 56 Kbps (??). But 56 Kbps is using times 4 compression and the modem is really going 14400 baud or 14.4 kbps?
So then broadband comes along and someone slips in Bytes not bits. Of course then we get even faster, and so Mbps = guess what? Back to using bits again, right? 4 Mbps = 4000 Kbps.
Probably someone is going to say it is not speed they are talking but a data transfer rate and it is a different thing.. But why even start using Bytes?
KB/s can be KBps but usually no one does it the 2nd way, just as kbps can be Kb/s as you wrote it out..
Thankfully a capital K and a small k though technically meaning different things, either is acceptable.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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28. October 2005 @ 07:26 |
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Please Help me ( Wicked101 Or any body )
I have a dsl 1mb and a modem D-link (DSL-210 USB ADSL Modem )and a wireless Router D-link model ( Dl-624+ ) so i want to open the port 6881-6889 for torrent programmes (bitspirit) in that router but i cant find any thing to help me ,so please Wicked101 you told us that you solved that problem .
waiting for reply .....
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28. October 2005 @ 12:53 |
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OK it keeps fluctuating so i dont really know what the problem is
i tried it with port fowarding off and i got the same speed as it on
i tried it with 150 as my max upload and got the same as max upload (160 is 80% of my bandwith)
all i can say now is that i want to get a program that doesnt care what your upload is :(
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biggermac
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OK it keeps fluctuating so I dont really know what the problem is i tried it with port fowarding off and i got the same speed as it on i tried it with 150 as my max upload and got the same as max upload (160 is 80% of my bandwith) all i can say now is that i want to get a program that doesnt care what your upload is :(
>> got 196 as 70 percent of 281 Kb/s
> no no, you read wrong. i said kb/s, i already devided my kbits by
> 8. my download speed went up to 100 kb/s overnight, but it keeps
> crashing randomly
Magelan (newbie), you see, you are saying "I've done that" but your follow-ups are indicating that you don't understand it. Are you really paying attention?
We've mentioned to enter in something around "25" for "maximum upload speed" field. Now you say you even tried "150". 150 in that box means it is 150 KB/s. 150 KB/s = 1200 Kbps. Are you saying you have a 1200 Kbps upload speed?
If you have converted Kbps to KB/s then why not mention the KB/s number?
Look - 2 extra steps..........
1st) take you max upload speed in Kbps and convert it to KB/s. You say you have 281 Kbps. Divide 281 .by 8 (8bits = a Byte). 281 Kbps ends up as 35 KB/s (approx.)
2nd) Now you are speaking another language which is what torrent programs use - your upload speed is now converted into Bytes from bits, and it is 35 KB/s -- now you need 80% of 35, and that is the number you put in the BitTornado "max upload speed" box. 80% of 35 = 28. So put the number 28 in the max uploads box. Redscorpi said 28 already, and I said 24 (because I was using a lesser starting number).
Your download speed is suffering because you have the upload speed way (way way way) to high. You are choking the program of bandwidth. This is why you set it to 80% of what you have - it needs to work right and to do so it needs that extra 20%..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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hey guys,
I'm new here on this forum and I had a question.
I use bitlord a little time now, and my download speed is very low, like
5 kbps, and my upload like 5kbps too. How can this be? What must i do to speed it up? I'am downloading a file of 4 gb and a file with 2 gb. Both of them with 5/5. On this way it takes many many hours to download it.
Both files have enough peers and seeds.
My info:
-I'am from the Netherlands.
-Using bitlord.
-I have opened the port for the listen port. Mine is 20482.
-My Internet service is: 'wanadoo lite' Netherlands.
-Speeds from the test are: 1168/131 kbps.
-I have an modem. (alcatel/thomson speedtouch, don't know what type exactly).
-my networkadapter: 3com 3c910 integrated Fast ethernet controller(3csoho100b-tx compatible).
Hopefully is that enough information for my problem, if it isn't, ask me.
PLEASE antswer soon, because i'm sick of those downloading speeds. :s
Already thanks for the help. ;)
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Hello. I am having problems using BT. The status light is green and I checked the sites and every port is stealth, I have a cable modem, linksys router and I have Norton anti virus, I tried opening the suggested ports like this 6881-6881 TCP 6882-6882 and so on but still the light Is yellow. The download rate is at 11kb and the upload is at 16kb , and someone please help him , I am so frustrated I been sitting here for hours trying to fix this thing.
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biggermac
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OK guys, I am getting tired of repeating the same stuff over and and over again. Refer others back to this if you see them post general questions. I probably missed something basic I should have added....
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General Torrent Programs guideline.
This should cover most questions or problems you are having. I am not an expert. This is just from observations and from reading posts and trial and error.
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(1) What program to use
Use a torrent program that implements a colored light system (or other system) that informs you of status as you download. The two I know that use a colored light system (I am sure there are others) are BitTornado (I use), and Azureus. This is because most problems are a firewall problem and the user will have a yellow light - you want a green light.
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(2) Firewalls.
A firewall is a blocker or filter. You can send stuff outbound (upload), however they will block most ports for incoming (think of a port as a hole for stuff to get in and go out). Firewalls are now necessary because there is so much evil stuff written that is trying to harm your computer - it is just floating around on the Internet and trying and trying to find a hole to enter your computer.
Almost everyone runs a Program that is a Firewall (software firewall). But if you use a router, by the nature of it's duties, it becomes a hardware firewall. You can use a router and also run a software firewall, but running 2 software Firewalls will probably cause problems. Running a router only can be sufficient, but you do not get the bells and whistles a software firewall gives you. Example - For an old P3 running Windows 98 computer on my home network, no software firewall is used, the router seems to do OK as a firewall. And by the way if you download torrents regularly, you know they can take hours or all day, an old $80 computer like my Windows 98 one I just mentioned, even one at 500 MHz, is plenty good enough to download torrents so you don't tie up your main computer and have response slowdowns with it. Another Example (no bells & whistles) - The router firewall won't pop up a window and say "such and such tried to infiltrate your computer", nor will it say anything about outgoing that you never used before and are just using for the 1st time (it won't ask you if it is OK go ahead and let it connect)..
Port forwarding: this means open a port for incoming. So in reference to a torrent program, you must "port forward" in a firewall that port or those ports that your torrent program uses. Now you see, if you have a router (hardware firewall) and are running a software firewall as well, you must open up the ports used in both Firewalls not just one.
Now there is another way to open up ports. This is only for software Firewalls and only affects a software firewall.. You can just exclude your torrent exe program from the firewall. All ports will be open when you run the torrent. Here is an example - if you use Windows XP's firewall, click on control-panel/firewall, and you'll see one of the commands you can click is "Exceptions". In there listed are programs like Yahoo Messenger. You need to add your torrent program to the list.
Norton anti-virus 2005 .. Since I run Norton SystemWorks 2005 which has anti-virus in it, I know the anti-virus program itself runs a firewall, but it does not call it such. It probably asked you when you 1st installed Norton if it was OK to shut off the XP firewall (or any I suppose) and you probably ticked "OK do it". So, you've got to find where to add to exclude or ignore your torrent program if you didn't tell it OK before. (look for the "options' tab to be able to change/add things).
Finally on Firewalls and ports - don't use the default ports of 6881- 6889 (or whatever they are). There are 65000 port or so. Use a port or ports range above 20000. Me, I use ports in the 55000 range. If you only do one torrent at a time (recommended) you should only need to use one port (they call it a listening port I believe) and not a field of ports. (At least one port is all I need for BitTornado.). Plus rememeber - if you are using a router and especially used as your only firewall, then the more ports you forward, you increase the chances of some kind of a security breach when surfing the Internet.
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(3) Download one torrent at a time (until you become good at it and recognize when 2 at a time would work better).
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(4) never use any "automatic" setting.
For Example - In BitTornado by default the max upload speed is ticked to be automatic, so instead choose slow or fast DSL/cable which then will allow you to tweak the numbers it adds in the max upload speed box (and the max uploads or connections box). (See next for what numbers).
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(5) You must upload well to be able to download well
Very important rule: The whole peer to peer torrent style network is based on people not being able to "cheat", meaning you cannot choose to not share in the upload process and still be able to download fast. So remember that you must upload well to be able to download well. The faster you upload the faster you'll download (in theory).
I'd guess that most of us in the United States who have broadband (1/2 of computer users here perhaps??) can upload at 250 Kbps (31 KB/s) either with cable or fast DSL. I have 400 Kbps (50 KB/s) upload and it's becoming more common (I have cable & 4000 Kbps down). When I had 250 kbps up (3000 down) I did OK, really, just abut as well as wiryh my higher speeds I have now.. THe DSL speeds and plans will vary a lot more than cable speeds and plans. There are different types of DSL that work a bit differently thaqn other types. Some people have DSL then find out they only have 350 Kbps download and 80 Kbps upload or something similar. OK for surfing quickly, but for torrents, not good. Since dial up is 56 kbps up and down, that 80 or 100 kbps upload you might have is not that much faster than dial-up.
Don't think because you have a 2000 kbps (2 Mbps or 225 KB/s) download rate or more means that you should be getting that when you download. Even with great upload speeds an average of 600 Kbps (75 KB/s) download speed is very good. Some really popular torrents, with seeds up the butt to like 50 seeds and 50 peers and you can get 1 Mbps download (1000 kbps / 125 KB/s). I've gotten 2 Mbps a few times. Once I hit 3 Mbps and I do not know what was going on there.
You actually are never downloading a solid speed - what you are doing is getting uploads from others and the torrent program combines the pieces. If you are getting a fast 1 Mbps download rate (125 KB/s) you are really getting uploads from several other computer sources which like you have limited upload rates..
Speeds will always be slow when you start out, and show a yellow light. You must get enough of a torrent to be able to begin to share before your upload speed starts going up, and after your upload speed starts going up give it a few minutes and your download speed should start to increase. You should get a green light after you have several people joined and start to upload faster (say maybe 5 minutes into the torrent).
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(6) Kbps, KB/s, Mbps - wtf is all of this?
(a) Kbps and KB/s are vastly different speeds or transfer rates. It is not the slash ( / ) that makes the difference, it is the large letter "B" Vs a small letter "b". OK remember B = Bytes and b = bits. It takes 8 bits to equal a byte. Everyone always used to use Kbps (bits) and the ISPs (Internet service providers) I've seen always use (appropriately so) Kbps too. I do not know how B and Bytes got started, but now everyone is confused. Torrent programs want speed entered in KB/s and your ISP tells you in Kbps. You must convert to put a value in a torrent program. Divide Kbps by 8 to get KB/s. If you have 200 Kbps upload then for the torrent program that is 25 KB/s.
-There is one more step though before you add in your max upload speed into a torrent program.
(b) Torrent programs need to use some upload bandwidth to work right. If you entered in all of your upload speed into the max-upload-speed box in the torrent program, it I going to choke when it reaches speed up past 80% of that. A rule of thumb is to only tell a torrent program 75% to 80% of what your actual upload speed really is. This leaves the extra 20% to the torrent program which needs it to work well in. OK. If you know you have 25 KB/s upload speed, 80% of that is 20 KB/s. Put 20 in the max upload speed box.
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(7) Maximum uploads (not maximum upload speed)
Leave this to 4 unless you know 5 or 6 might be better. (experiment later once you've gotten good download speeds). I'd say don't tick it up past 4 unless you have 400 Kbps (50 KB/s) upload capability, but research more on this if you want to add more connections.
Still in reference to connections (or "max uploads" in BitTornado, and not "max upload speed") I am guessing here with a slight hint of knowledge but could be way off on this observation - I believe this is the number of computers you are uploading to at one time. And if for example, you upload at 25 KB/s, then 4 computers should be recieving from you about 6 KB/s each.. If you tick 5 connections then 5 computers get 5 KB/s each, however if you serve too many computers, each recieving less a chunk of good speed upload from you, it might effect the formula that the torrent programs use to determine if you are uploading well and then stiff you of download speed.
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(8) I believe older computer operating systems like the Windows 98 line does not understand UPnP. The torrent program might have UPnP turned on. Also in your router (if you use one of course) you might have UPnP on or off. It might be worth experimenting with these settings. I myself have shut off UPnP in my torrent program and in my router, and even on my Win XP computer it seemed to work well downloading a torrent.
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(9) Different torrents are going to be different speeds - even if you download two different ones in a row (one after the other was finished) and they had the exact same seeds and peers numbers, one might download at 800 Kbps (100 KB/s) and the other at 400 Kbps (50 KB/s), you never know.(
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(10) Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) tries to stop WORMs. Before they could proliferate with many connections at one time. In so doing this SP2 fix, it limits (I think) what might be called "half connections" to 10 (research this further yourself, terminology might be wrong on my part)). Unfortunately this causes havoc with older style P2P programs, and might effect your torrent speed too in such a way as that if you lose a computer in your group that was uploading to you, getting connected to another source might take a while, and you'll see your speeds vary a lot as you watch during a download. There is a so-called "fix" called the LVLord fix. Google "LVLORD". This fix involves entering automatically into your registry do be careful save your registry before you run it. You will get a warning when you run this fix, and if you get afraid and abort, of course the fix won't work.
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(11) Some settings you change might not go into effect until you close your torrent program and open it up again. For example in BitTornado on the main page I can change the upload max speed setting OK and it does into effect immediately, but if I changed on a 2nd page the ports used, that wouldn't go into effect until the next time I open BitTornado.
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...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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lolbol
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30. October 2005 @ 06:59 |
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MANY THANKS!
But i've an modem with a hardware firewall(not a router)
i've an alcatel/thomson speedtouch 510.
How must I configure it, so Bitlord can dowload very fast??
PLZ HELP!
ps. this is taking me months to solve this problem...
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morrislui
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30. October 2005 @ 08:19 |
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thanks
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biggermac
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30. October 2005 @ 08:22 |
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lolball,
If I were a betting man I'd bet my life savings that you have to "login" (ID and Password) to the modem just like you would login to a router. You'd then be able to change some settings, like add some port forwarding.. - you add the port or ports in the modem's firewall that you have specified BitLord to use. Usually a command or menu tab would say "port forwarding", but it might be called something else..
A simple Google search of your modem gives this set of pages:
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/alcatel/all
If the modem came with your broadband connection & ISP service, they should help you. (don't mention for peer to peer stuff).
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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lolbol
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30. October 2005 @ 11:07 |
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well, i think i solved the problem, i found my login for the modem, and i opened the port for bitlord.
I don't know if I did right...can I check it somewhere?
many thx man ;)
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redscorpi
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31. October 2005 @ 09:05 |
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to check if you port forwarded correctly and the port is unblocked go here https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 click Proceed, scroll down to the blue part, enter the port, and hit "User Specified Custom Port Probe". If it says "stealth", it is still blocked (no good for BT). if it says "open" or "closed", the port is unblocked.
note: when it says "open" or "close" the port is unblocked. the difference between "open" and "close" is that it will say "open" if the port is being used at that time (e.g. bitlord is running and downloading using the port), and it will say "close" when the port is NOT being used. if you get "stealth" it doesn't matter if a program is using the port or not, the port is blocked, period.
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lolbol
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31. October 2005 @ 09:19 |
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Yes i've checked it, and I come into a help page..
then I've entered the port that i use for bitlord and it says that the port got no name, no purpose and it says this by description: 'The GRC port database does not currently contain any specific information about this client port. (See below for a discussion of "client" ports.)'
Nowhere it says: stealth, open or closed...
DId I something wrong or what?
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redscorpi
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31. October 2005 @ 09:53 |
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you probably pressed Enter instead of clicking on the button that says "User Specified Custom Port Probe". you have to click that button on the blue box, it's right below where you type your port.
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BigVernUK
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31. October 2005 @ 10:32 |
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Hey guys need some help,
i have windows xp sp1, tiscali broadband 2mb and im running zone alarm pro!
I dont really know how to forward the ports in the zone alarm settings, ive tried, but the test on the shields up page jus says im in stealth all the time, even when i shut zone alarm down!! can someone please give me some instructions as its taking days even weeks to download 1gb files!
any help would be appreciated
cheers
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lolbol
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31. October 2005 @ 11:21 |
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Indeed, but when i press on that button it says:
'This Internet port probe attempts to establish standard TCP Internet connections with any set of up to 64 ports specified by the user.
You are here because ShieldsUP! was unable to determine what set of 64 or fewer ports you wish to have tested. Valid ports range from 1 through 65535 inclusive. Ports may be listed individually or with ranges specified by a "-" hyphen. Port ranges extend from the first port specified to the last one, inclusive, and can run in either direction. Any non-numeric character (space, comma, slash, etc.) may be used to separate individual ports and ranges. The port parser is quite forgiving and extremely tolerant of any whacky stuff you might give it.
Some sample valid port specifications are:
1, 10, 100, 1000, 10000
21 23 80 135-139 1024-1030
4000/14/512/416/28/10101/50000
65516-65535
1-10-1
Please correct the port specification you supplied below, then resubmit your port probe request:'
what to do now?
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redscorpi
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31. October 2005 @ 13:02 |
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if you just write any one number (the port) between 1 and 65535 it should not give you that message.
what exactly did you write on the box?
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redscorpi
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31. October 2005 @ 13:15 |
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Hey guys need some help,
i have windows xp sp1, tiscali broadband 2mb and im running zone alarm pro!
I dont really know how to forward the ports in the zone alarm settings, ive tried, but the test on the shields up page jus says im in stealth all the time, even when i shut zone alarm down!! can someone please give me some instructions as its taking days even weeks to download 1gb files!
any help would be appreciated
cheers
zone alarm may not be the only thing thats blocking your port.
what bittorrent program are you using?
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lolbol
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31. October 2005 @ 23:24 |
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i wrote: 20482
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redscorpi
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1. November 2005 @ 09:43 |
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wow that's very weird. why would it say "You are here because ShieldsUP! was unable to determine what set of 64 or fewer ports you wish to have tested. Valid ports range from 1 through 65535 inclusive" when you wrote a number between that range just like they said.
dude, i don't know what the problem is.
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lolbol
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1. November 2005 @ 10:29 |
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OMG..if U don't know it, what then?
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lolbol
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1. November 2005 @ 10:35 |
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OH I KNOW what i did wrong,, i wrote down the port and pressed 'enter' instead of pressing 'user...port' after i wrote the port...but it says stealth...
What must i do?
I did: openend the port in windows firewall...port 20482 udp and tcp.
I did: openend the port in my modems firewall(alcatell speedtocuh 510 V4 the port '20482' in udp and tcp, did I something wrong, I also have windows SP2.
what now?? redscorpi?...
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1. November 2005 @ 14:17 |
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dude, did i not suggest to you that that was what you had done wrong: pressed Enter instead of clicking the button on the site? you responded with...
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Indeed, but when i press on that button it says:
'This Internet port probe attempts to establish standard TCP Internet connections with any set of up to 64 ports specified by the user.
WTF
anyway, it is immposible for me to know for sure if you REALLY forwarded that port in your modem or that you made the exception for your bt program in the windows firewall...
that said, the only thing i can say is that you may have something else blocking the port. if you have a home-network established in your home, forwarding ports in your router may make the shields up test say "open" or "close". of course, this is assuming you forwarded ports and made the exception in the windows firewall.
note: if you use azureus, you have to make the exception in the windows firewall for the program javaw.exe, not azureus.exe (at least thats what it says on my windows firewall settings)
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BigVernUK (Newbie)wrote:
Hey guys need some help,
i have windows xp sp1, tiscali broadband 2mb and im running zone alarm pro!
I dont really know how to forward the ports in the zone alarm settings, ive tried, but the test on the shields up page jus says im in stealth all the time, even when i shut zone alarm down!! can someone please give me some instructions as its taking days even weeks to download 1gb files!
any help would be appreciated
I do not use Zone Alarm and never have. My best advise is that the software firewalls I have used have a place to add the whole darned program and exclude it when it is used, so why not do that and forget about forwarding a port or ports. It won't block any ports at all for that program then. Other programs listed that might be excluded from a firewall would be Yahoo Messenger &/or MSN Messenger. So whatever exe program runs whatever torrent program you run, get it listed (full path) after finding the appropriate corner of your firewall program to do so..
Also I'll point out that if you use Norton Anti-virus 2005 it runs what amounts to a firewall also..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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