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How do u make BitTorrent download faster? i have been searching the answer for days.
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jinky67
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11. October 2005 @ 04:42 |
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Hello.
OK,i just had to do a clean install and i cant remember what my Azureus settings were, also im with telewest Bband and they just up'd my connection to 1.5mb.
Here is my bandwidth test results....
D. 3784
U.356
Now can someone tell me Exactly what to do with these?
/ by 8 then * by .8, is this correct?
This would give me 378, this does not seem right at all, if i remember correctly, with my 1mb connection i had sumthing like 15 in max d/load.
I seen someone mention in this post they also have a 1.5mb connection and they put 150 in the nax d/load.
Someone please help, this is getting all confusing when i know it isnt.Ive just been hearing a few different views on this .
Thanks.
{p.s. Right now i have my max D. at 100, and max U. at 12, the only reason i did this was because i had my D. at 150 and ,my U. at 45, and i was uploading faster than i was downloading.
So with those setting above and a popular 1.83 gb torrent with '10[110] seeds & 68[669] peers ', im only getting speeds inbetween 15/25 kb\s.
My system is...
Athlon 64 3200+
2.2 ghz
1gb RAM
80gig HDD
Sygagte firewall
[No other programs running whilst using azureus]
Thanks again.
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redscorpi
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11. October 2005 @ 15:34 |
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jinky, you are supposed to divide the UPLOAD not the download. 356 divided by 8 is 44.5 times .8 is 35.
put 35 in azureus's "global max upload speed" option.
also make sure you don't have any NAT or firewall problems.
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biggermac
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11. October 2005 @ 18:39 |
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This just supports the previous post:
Forget the download speed you'll never reach it,356 Kbps is k = 1000 b = bits p = per s = second. This would even be acceptable though it's not used much with bits - 356 kb/s. The small b and a large B mean different things, so Torrent programs use the large letter B, that is B = Bytes = KB/s. One B (Byte) = 8 b (bits, as in Kbps).
Morons added Bytes as a way to report this - it always was bits before when everyone had dial-up modems, and everyone knew WTF was going on when all was Kbps. (large or small letter K could mean something different but it's not used).
Even now you get into 1000 kbps = 1 Mbps, with Mbps (million) becoming common nowadays with faster speeds, so you see they abandon Bytes once again and use bits because it's a small letter b again.
So the reply was correct, divide your 356 Kbps by 8 = about 44 KB/s. Now since torrent programs need some room to work, you can't use all 44 KB/s in the max upload speed field. Too much will slow you down too. So 80% of your max is what to add in there in the torrent program, leaving the torrent program 20% to work in with whatever it does. 75% sometimes is better, maybe with cable, because with cable you can lose bandwidth if more people in your area are online with you.
Anyway, so if you need 80% of you max, the number 8 comes up again, but for me it is easier to divide 44 by 10 which is 4.4, then subtract two 4.4s (10% each) for 80%. 44 - 9 = 35. Use 34 or 35 (we're still in KB/s) in your max uploads box.
Windows XP users might find the LVlord mod work for them. In old style peer to peer networks it might be more noticeable. This is because when XP's SP2 came out, in order to stop worms from growing fast, they limited certain kinds of connections. The LVlord mod is here: http://www.lvllord.de/?lang_=&lang=en&url=news (you'll get a warning during the sequence, I was told to ignore it, and I did). This might help you go green light quicker. Programs like Bearshare and others may go much faster for you in certain circumstances.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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jinky67
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12. October 2005 @ 05:14 |
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Thanks guys, speeds have improved already, 50 Kb is about the average d/load & 33 kb u/load. Thats with 13 [s] 64 [p].
Ive got my upload at 34, but what do i set my download at ?
I have it at 60 right now, is that about right? how do i work this one out?
Right now im still on sp1, ive seen various views & problems that arise after installing sp2, because it limits the number of connections but that the lvlord patch works a treat though.
Thanks for your time guys.
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biggermac
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12. October 2005 @ 05:58 |
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Don't worry about limiting your download. You are almost at 4000 Kbps normally, and you'll never reach that. If you set it to 60 KB/s that = only 480 Kbps. A lot of downloads can be faster than that.
Your up and down numbers are very similar to mine. For me 600 kbps (about 75 KB/s)is pretty common, and 1 Mbps (1000 kbps or 125 KB/s) is not so uncommon if it's a real popular torrent (as many seeds as peers). I've reached 2 Mbps a few times, and one time some fluke at 3 Mbps.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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jinky67
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12. October 2005 @ 06:56 |
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Thanks for the replay bud.
So basically what your sayin is just leave the global max d/load field at 0 [unlimited] ?
Is this what you have yours set at mate?
If 75 KB, or around that is the average speed i will get im happy with that, i dont mind waiting a day or 2 etc. I dont expect to d/load somthing large in a day or a couple of hours.
These are the fastest speed ive had ever, since using Azureus.
Is there anything else i should change that may help with the overall performance of Azureus? Anything in the transfer or connection menus etc ?
Thanks again. Cheers.
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biggermac
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12. October 2005 @ 08:13 |
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jinky67 I don't use Azureas.. I'm a fan of BitTornado.
Yea, sure, 0 = unlimited download speed and should be fine. I myself am not a fan of using any "automatic" type settings, so I do put in a max download rate, but it's way way higher than my real max speed..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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redscorpi
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12. October 2005 @ 12:21 |
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yeah jinky, don't limit your download. just set it to 0 for "unlimited" and let the downloads reach whatever speed they want. i, personally, have not had any problems surfing the net when my download speeds are max-ed out.
the upload, however, does affect your internet surfing if it is set too high. that's why it should be limited to a certain amount depending on internet connection.
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redscorpi
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12. October 2005 @ 12:28 |
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also, jinky, you said you use Azureus, but you haven't said if you get green or yellow smileys. if you get green smileys you are fine. but if you get yellow smileys, chances are you're getting slower download speeds now than what you could be getting if you had a green smiley.
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1a2a3a4a
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12. October 2005 @ 21:14 |
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WTH I POST AND NO ONE REPLY ME WHILE OTHERS U GUYS DID????????????????
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volcomiso
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12. October 2005 @ 23:08 |
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Okay now I have 2.5 on my system but it won't let me downgrade to 2.0 so I can downgrade even more to 1.5 can someone help me pleasssssssssssse?
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biggermac
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12. October 2005 @ 23:19 |
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1a2a3a4a (Newbie) wrote: WTH I POST AND NO ONE REPLY ME WHILE OTHERS U GUYS DID????????????????
Maybe because some of us are tired of repeating the same super basic stuff over and over again every time some newbies come in as say "I can't get my speed up - why?"
Well -
1 what's the operating system,
2 whats the torrent program,
3 what is your upload speed,
4 what is your download speed,
5 what setting did you put in the box where it says "max upload speed",
6 how many connections,
7 is UPnP on or off,
8 do you have a router,
9 and did you port forward (yes you said you did port forward),
10 Win XP or Win 98 or an Apple for Krizt's sake,
11 do you understand the difference between 300 kbps and 300 KB/s,
12 are you trying more than one download at a time,
13 did you try more than one download before you know you can;t go faster than 10 MB/s,
14 how many seeds and peers in the download attempts,
15 what is the color of your pubic hairs (or do you have any yet ;-)
Yes sure, you posted more information for us, which is good, but not nearly enough information. Green light means no firewall problems most likely, so it is probably something else.
You never mentioned what speeds you are capable of, especially upload and download. The Upload speed setting is key to getting a good download.
And So we have to ask every damn time.
You people asking for help, you should know enough that where-ever you post asking for help in any forum, everything you can do to post every setting there is will get a better answer, or any answer at all. Post your grand mother's hair color if it might help.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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1a2a3a4a
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14. October 2005 @ 18:25 |
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my dl speed is 2mbps upload is 256
im on a router and i portforward it the peer is 200+ seed is 50-60+
window xp sp 2 im usin BitTornado... sry
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biggermac
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14. October 2005 @ 19:21 |
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1a2a3a4a (Newbie) wrote: hi everyone im desperatly need some help im usin BitTornado and i have portforward off firewall sp2
and it did show the green face...but the problem is that my speed is only aorund 1-10kb/s and my connection is 2mbps...
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my dl speed is 2mbps upload is 256
im on a router and i portforward it the peer is 200+ seed is 50-60+
window xp sp 2
On the main page when BitTornado opens, there are two boxes to add in stuff. By default, the setting will say "automatic". Change the automatic setting to "fast DSL and cable". When you do this, it will pop in settings into the 2 boxes. The 1st box is "max upload speed". That will say "25". That means 25 KB/s. And 25 KB/s = 200 Kbps. You can change the settings here now that there are numbers in the boxes, but actually if you're upload speed is truly 256 Kbps which = about 31 KB/s, then 25 is actually a good number. This is because you can't put in all of your upload speed, the torrent program needs some of this bandwidth to function in, so the rule is 80%, and 25 KB/s is just about 80% of 31 KB/s. You might want to tick it back to 23 or 24 just to be on the safer side. If you have a cable connection your speed does change depending on how many of your neighbors are online at the same time that you are.
The 2nd box is "max uploads", not to be confused with "max upload speed". This box will be ticked at "6", but for now tick it back to "4". You can experiment at another time with 4, 5 ,or 6 for this box.
Not having the correct upload speed entered in is most likely your problem. A setting too high is as bad as too low. Torrent programs only let you download well if you upload well (no cheaters).
Also on another BitTornado page there is a place to select upload speeds - that too might say automatic and likewise change it. Also UPnP is on, so in your router it must be on. Or off in both. Some of these secondary settings you change in BitTornado will not take effect until the next time you start it up. The main page changes I mentioned though, will go into effect right away.
And you can test your speed here: http://www.dslreports.com/stest to get a better idea of your real speeds. Test at a place close and another farther away.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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1a2a3a4a
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15. October 2005 @ 22:42 |
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ok biggermac i did wht u told me and its did improve but...only a veri small amt
now im downloadin at around 10-20 and no more higher any other explanation??
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biggermac
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16. October 2005 @ 00:17 |
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ok biggermac i did wht u told me and its did improve but...only a veri small amt
now im downloadin at around 10-20 and no more higher any other explanation??
I hope you waited like 45 minutes before you decided 20 KB/s was as fast as you are going to get. 20 KB/s is 160 Kbps, and that's not too good, espeically for a well seeded/peered torrent.
Did you test your speed and make sure of your up/down speeds?
Try other stuff. Experiment
Try max peers to 100 maybe.. Lower the max upload speed number down a few notches.
I hope you are not doing more than one at a time..
If you have the green light you have no firewall problem.
Try turning UPnP off in BitTornado and in the router.
Try the superseed setting.
Rememeber I said some of the changes you make means you have to stop it (close down) then start up again..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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1a2a3a4a
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16. October 2005 @ 02:10 |
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ok i try those experiment and...
it got worst speed is under 5..
i tried 1 by 1
i test my speed in dsl report and it say 1.9/246
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biggermac
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16. October 2005 @ 02:48 |
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You have to try out more than one download before you give up. Some don't work well no matter what you do.
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1a2a3a4a
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16. October 2005 @ 08:13 |
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i still couldnt get the speed i need :(
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redscorpi
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16. October 2005 @ 13:23 |
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i still couldnt get the speed i need :(
well then you suck.
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16. October 2005 @ 14:33 |
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That's a good way to get banned by a mod, Scorpio.
If there's one thing I hate it's folks slagging off other folks for no particular reason!
-Mike
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biggermac
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16. October 2005 @ 15:04 |
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Mik3h (Senior Member) wrote:
That's a good way to get banned by a mod, Scorpio.
If there's one thing I hate it's folks slagging off other folks for no particular reason!
If you ban him then you'd be banning the guy who is easily #1 in knowedge and posts in this newsgroup and probably a few other torrent newsgroups.
There is nothing else to suggest to this guy because he's not making an effort to post more information. Man if I wanted to know what's going on with the program, "I tried that" in't good info either - how about telling us more, like did he close the program after he changed the setting and begin to download again and how long did he wait before he decided that was all of the speed he was going to get with how many seeds and peers.
I don't blame Redscorpi after following the thread, which I was a part of.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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biggermac
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16. October 2005 @ 15:17 |
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1a2a3a4a (Newbie) wrote:
i still couldnt get the speed i need :(
There is still more information you can depart. If i wanted to know I'd have copied into your last post every setting on all of the BitTornado settings.
My final suggestion - Why don't you try a different port. Try something way up there like 55789. Just one port, no range is needed. That means you enter that port number inside beginning box and ending box for the port range. Do the same in your router. You do not need more ports used unless you plan on multiple torrent downoads at one time (which I do not suggest).
Finally, I have to point this out (though the chances are slim this is the problem): you are on a router, so are there other people on at the same time as you during a download that might possibly be taking away some of your bandwidth (up &/or down). Is this your router which you are in charge of?
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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1a2a3a4a
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16. October 2005 @ 18:35 |
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ok sry i will try to give as much info as possible.the router is in the living room connected to the modem no one else is connected to it except me.im connected to it usin wireless adapter as there is no cable point in my rm... and for some reason suddenly the speed i test in dsl suk.. it give me speed diffently sometime 100dl 500dl 100dl all diff but for my upload it give me around 100+ 200+..
i tried the settin u gave me.firstly i tried to put under peer 100 it reach abt only 90 and the speed is under5 the seeder is abt 50..
i tried for the rest and put the amt of peer back to unlimted it gave me same speed and same amt of seeder 10-20 200+peer 60+leccher..if u need more info juz tell me ok? thnx
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biggermac
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16. October 2005 @ 22:13 |
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1a2a3a4a (Newbie) wrote:
ok sry i will try to give as much info as possible.the router is in the living room connected to the modem no one else is connected to it except me.im connected to it usin wireless adapter as there is no cable point in my rm... and for some reason suddenly the speed i test in dsl suk.. it give me speed diffently sometime 100dl 500dl 100dl all diff but for my upload it give me around 100+ 200+..
i tried the settin u gave me.firstly i tried to put under peer 100 it reach abt only 90 and the speed is under5 the seeder is abt 50..
i tried for the rest and put the amt of peer back to unlimted it gave me same speed and same amt of seeder 10-20 200+peer 60+leccher..if u need more info juz tell me ok? thnx
This part I need more clarification on:
> and for some reason suddenly the speed i test in dsl suk.. it give
> me speed diffently sometime 100dl 500dl 100dl all diff but for my
> upload it give me around 100+ 200+..
You know, you write a post like my teenage son who is always in a hurry. Or like I use in a Messenger program because I type too slow. No capital letters at the beginning of sentences, abbreviations for words whenever (like u for you), and no space in between a period and the beginning of the next sentence. I hope you know how to use better syntax/punctuation because if not, some day it's going to catch up to you when you apply for a job..
Anywho, since there are two ways to report speed, you should remember what I wrote about there is a times 8 difference in transfer rates between (for example) 100 Kbps & 100 KB/s, why not get in the habit of using the correct syntax.
But OK I am assuming 100+ or 200+ you are talking kbps, because 100 KB/s = 800 Kbps and not many people are that fast with uploads.
So you are having big differences in reported speed when testing for speed. Did you test at the http://www.dslreports.com/stest place? Differences in distance from the city you test in to you will make a difference. But, I need clarification on you speed problems, so test again at several places and write it down. There are major testing facilities at dslreports, but there is also a link to 328 sites worldwide. But I am assuming that you are in the United States - you are, right?
If DSLreports says you've tested too much and cannot test any more then type into Google something like "broadband speed test" and you'll see a whole lot of different places to test at. Don't just say 100+ or 200+, write down the numbers. test again at another place, write it down, test again at another place...
You might have a signal interfering sometimes with your wireless transfer. We have a wireless connected computer upstairs and I believe some radio station one day was blasting away because I was picking it on my stereo amplifier.. If you think that is normal well, I turned of the tuner and it still came through. Other devices in the house could cause problems too especially if you are on the edge of the range of the signal.
What I would do if I were you, since we're getting no where, is to haul your computer down to the router and connect with an Ethernet cable, and see if you have the same problems when wired into the Internet. If you do, you will most likely have to go into control-panel/Internet-connections and turn off the network for the wireless device then hopefully you have one there beside that for a regular Internet connection. Either plug right into the router in one of the empty slots, or even better, unplug the router from the modem then you plug right into the modem (make sure you have a software firewall running before you plug right into the modem).
So you are getting a green light, I'd have to guess at this point you have home network issues through the wireless connection. Is it an 11b router or 11g ? Same for your computer device (11b or 11g)?
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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