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Neph's POLITE Gun Debate
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31. December 2009 @ 00:49 |
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hey... haven't been to this site in such a long time xD. Any of the old timers still around? I think there was a guy named Ireland or something wasn't there?
anyway...
I don't really like guns... I think they are senselessly violent instruments of death... but then again, I'd be a hypocrite if I said I wanted them banned, because I am a fervent supporter of privacy, freedom to do what floats your boat, and the freedom to do what you want with your body (i.e. the legalization and the taxation of marijuana...) as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else in the process.
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31. December 2009 @ 01:40 |
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Originally posted by antomic:
hey... haven't been to this site in such a long time xD. Any of the old timers still around? I think there was a guy named Ireland or something wasn't there?
anyway...
I don't really like guns... I think they are senselessly violent instruments of death... but then again, I'd be a hypocrite if I said I wanted them banned, because I am a fervent supporter of privacy, freedom to do what floats your boat, and the freedom to do what you want with your body (i.e. the legalization and the taxation of marijuana...) as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else in the process.
I personally think that humans are the cause of senseless death... it's not the gun that kills people it's the "HUMAN" behind the gun that kills people. ;)
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31. December 2009 @ 03:11 |
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true, but in my opinion, the primary purpose of a gun is to kill something or someone. Seeing as how almost none of us hunt wild game to survive, I'd say the primary purpose is to kill people. I am completely for privacy and individual rights, but it seems that the primary purpose for the gun's existence is to eliminate other people's freedom (i.e. shooting them and causing them to die haha)
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31. December 2009 @ 13:01 |
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Hello antomic long time no see.
Sometimes your shooting them and causing them to die, prevents them from shooting you and causing you to die.
Edit: to be grammatically correct it should read:
Sometimes your shooting them and causing them to die, prevents their shooting you and causing you to die.
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31. December 2009 @ 14:59 |
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garmoon, quote: Sometimes your shooting them and causing them to die, prevents them from shooting you and causing you to die.
I bust out laughing, myself I stopped with the guns years ago, seen enough things in my life, to old for that now, but still keep one piece in the house, it has collected mucho dust over the years and hope it stays that way, but that quote was great, one little sentence that says it all. There is absolutly no rebutting that one.
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31. December 2009 @ 17:46 |
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now thaTS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD GARMOON and very correct.and I'm sure all the bad guys would turn in there guns if they were banned,right guys? lol
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31. December 2009 @ 17:58 |
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Riiiiiiight!
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31. December 2009 @ 19:12 |
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Originally posted by antomic:
true, but in my opinion, the primary purpose of a gun is to kill something or someone. Seeing as how almost none of us hunt wild game to survive, I'd say the primary purpose is to kill people. I am completely for privacy and individual rights, but it seems that the primary purpose for the gun's existence is to eliminate other people's freedom (i.e. shooting them and causing them to die haha)
You know, you're right!! The gun does "KILL" people.... but people "MURDER" other people with knives, bats, sticks, guns, cars, golf clubs, fists, and ETC!!!!!
So the way I see it if you "KILL" something then it's ok.... but if you "MURDER" someone then it's BAD!!! m-kaaaaay!!
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31. December 2009 @ 23:42 |
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Atomic.. I think it was ireland I was chatting to a few nights ago.. the horses ass incarnate... somewhere else..
so anyway.. guns have a use.. when you want to give an idiot the power to kill with or without consequence, or a freedom fighter the opportunity to try and make a point. That is where the AK47 comes in.. they cost $32
To carry a gun if you really mean it you must be either prepared to lay down your life for whatever cause or to be a plain and simple psycho. I carried a gun in war.. I killed people for some others cause not mine.. It isn't cool.. but any idiot crosses me now and I have no remorse if I put them in a box with my bare hands.. won't be the first human I have deprived of life for no purpose. It would be easier to stick a 9mm fmj in em.. but that can't be explained away as self defence in a country where carrying firearms is illegal.
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15. January 2010 @ 20:44 |
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Don't understand guns at all.
Take drive bys for example. You slowly roll up on your unsuspecting mark, shoot him and then quickly speed away. PUSSY!
If you get involved in gang activity then you know you can be killed but they should at least do it like a man.
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30. January 2010 @ 21:13 |
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Um, then take it up with the gangsta pussies to which you refer.
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31. January 2010 @ 12:56 |
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Your pro gun. I am anti gun. Lets just leave it at that.
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31. January 2010 @ 12:59 |
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Originally posted by BIFF0:
Your pro gun. I am anti gun. Lets just leave it at that.
HEy that's fine with me just make sure to have a few GUN friendly folks around when the "proverbial CR@P" hits the fan!! lol. ;)
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31. January 2010 @ 13:11 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
HEy that's fine with me just make sure to have a few GUN friendly folks around when the "proverbial CR@P" hits the fan!! lol. ;)
No need I will just ask them nicely not to shoot me.
Gun users are well known for being rational understanding folk.
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4. February 2010 @ 06:02 |
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No need I will just ask them nicely not to shoot me.
I hope you're not serious but given the naivety of most liberals I'll take you serious and say good luck with that. I'll bring flowers to your grave (nice ones even, any requests while we're at it?) and let your grieving family know in the best, kindest and most diplomatic way possible that others more sensible than you had advised you away from the fanciful world of idealism towards the practical world of realism. In other words, grow some balls and try to act like the MEN and WOMEN that fought a revolution, expanded our country, fought a civil war, expanded our country some more, fought two world wars, made it through the cold war, Korea, Viet Nam and other wars henceforth. All those feats take guts, not sniveling, waiting for the cops to save us, trying to reason with ANY religious fanatic or fanciful delusions that banning ANYTHING actually makes anything go away. Think about it. We can't even keep drugs out of any single SUPERMAX friggin prison. How do you propose to ban guns in our entire country? Please enlighten me. I'd love to hear your plan to save us from the scourge of gun violence.
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Gun users are well known for being rational understanding folk.
Heard that sarcasm so many times. Soooooooo lame by now. Michael Moore fan I take it? Believed everything you saw/heard in Bowling For Columbine? Did you perchance actually take the time to check the veracity of said movie? Bet not. Correct if I'm wrong and please do give me (forgive me for the quotes but as somebody that follows the issue closely I'm obliged) "the facts". In all seriousness, please do.
On a rational and logical note, it looks good that very soon Arizona will make it legal to carry concealed with no concealed carry permit required and university professors will be able to carry fireams on campus! Thank you very much! Think twice about a school shooting like Virginia Tech, we'll shoot your sorry ass here. Glad I live in a state that still has guts and sense for reasonable gun laws. Come on liberals, lets take bets! Whatta ya bet, ye misguided pansies, that if Arizona allows not only unrestricted concealed carry but Wild Bill Hickockesque packin' professors we're gonna turn into a modern day OK Corral? Please be reminded that we've already allowed the carry of guns in establishments that serve alcohol (read bars) and we've yet to have even one single drunken shoot out like our local liberals predicted.
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4. February 2010 @ 09:08 |
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So you think it's better for everyone to have guns then nobody.
I think it would be better if that Virgina Tech nut couldn't get a gun then after shooting some people a professor wastes him. And what if the professor loses it?
Your argument of we need guns cause they have guns doesn't work cause just stop giving them guns. Yeah not too easy but if young men and women can sacrifice their lives fighting for America I just think something can be done.
Would have been great if these people had guns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzBy6agXKoA
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4. February 2010 @ 09:32 |
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NEPH!!!!!!
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4. February 2010 @ 09:35 |
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Originally posted by LOCOENG:
NEPH!!!!!!
That was profound.. hehehehee. :P
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4. February 2010 @ 09:45 |
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Originally posted by BIFF0:
So you think it's better for everyone to have guns then nobody.
I think it would be better if that Virgina Tech nut couldn't get a gun then after shooting some people a professor wastes him. And what if the professor loses it?
Your argument of we need guns cause they have guns doesn't work cause just stop giving them guns. Yeah not too easy but if young men and women can sacrifice their lives fighting for America I just think something can be done.
Would have been great if these people had guns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzBy6agXKoA
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-N...3?f=rss
Shake my head!!!
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4. February 2010 @ 10:08 |
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Originally posted by BIFF0:
So you think it's better for everyone to have guns then nobody.
I think it would be better if that Virgina Tech nut couldn't get a gun then after shooting some people a professor wastes him. And what if the professor loses it?
Your argument of we need guns cause they have guns doesn't work cause just stop giving them guns. Yeah not too easy but if young men and women can sacrifice their lives fighting for America I just think something can be done.
Would have been great if these people had guns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzBy6agXKoA
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-N...3?f=rss
Seriously.. you're anti-gun... that's fine... don't carry one, don't own one, don't be around them... BUT don't try to take it away from everyone else because you feel they aren't for you!!!
Tragedy in California for sure.. it's the parents fault for NOT securing the gun well enough. There are safes, trigger locks, and so on to prevent stuff like that. Plus teaching your children NOT to touch them at that age is good too!!! Or at least training them if possible!!
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The Hypocrisy of Democrats
Texas State Lawmaker Opposing Deadly Force Bill Shoots Would-Be Thief
HOUSTON ? A state lawmaker who opposed a bill giving Texans stronger right to defend themselves with deadly force pulled a gun and shot a man he says was trying to steal copper wiring from a construction site, police said Monday.
read more here
The above is something that happened in my home state... it's not surprising that it happened it's surprising that a person that believes in guns and uses one is trying to take them away from law abiding citizens.
Like I said.. if you don't like them or want them.. then DON'T buy them!!
Why Switzerland Has The Lowest Crime Rate In The World
Check out the bumper stickers inside the gun cabinet.
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4. February 2010 @ 10:09 |
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Originally posted by little155:
Shake my head!!!
Howdy George. :)
Hope all is well!!!
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4. February 2010 @ 10:15 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by little155:
Shake my head!!!
Howdy George. :)
Hope all is well!!!
GM, how are you doing? All is well. I'll have a gun and ammo even if they are banned.
George
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4. February 2010 @ 10:22 |
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Originally posted by little155:
Originally posted by greensman:
Originally posted by little155:
Shake my head!!!
Howdy George. :)
Hope all is well!!!
GM, how are you doing? All is well. I'll have a gun and ammo even if they are banned.
George
You said it.. NOT me.. ;)
add: I'm fine, thanks for asking. :)
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4. February 2010 @ 11:03 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
Tragedy in California for sure.. it's the parents fault for NOT securing the gun well enough. There are safes, trigger locks, and so on to prevent stuff like that. Plus teaching your children NOT to touch them at that age is good too!!! Or at least training them if possible!!
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Yeah I agree it's the parents fault and if there was away to only give guns to responsible people who would use them responsibly then there wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately there's not so the only recourse is for nobody to have guns so the irresponsible people don't have them and thus the responsible people no longer even need guns.
Problem Solved.
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The Hypocrisy of Democrats
Texas State Lawmaker Opposing Deadly Force Bill Shoots Would-Be Thief
HOUSTON ? A state lawmaker who opposed a bill giving Texans stronger right to defend themselves with deadly force pulled a gun and shot a man he says was trying to steal copper wiring from a construction site, police said Monday.
read more here
The above is something that happened in my home state... it's not surprising that it happened it's surprising that a person that believes in guns and uses one is trying to take them away from law abiding citizens.
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I don't understand why you posted this as this man is clearly a gun lover so is on your side and shows the everyone's out to get me attitude alot (not all) gun lovers have. I mean shooting a man trying to steal copper wiring. What a nut.
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Like I said.. if you don't like them or want them.. then DON'T buy them!!
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Will that stop some idiot with a gun from shooting me cause he thinks I am trying to steal some wire?
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Why Switzerland Has The Lowest Crime Rate In The World
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Absolute nonsense. If this was the reason for the low crime rate then America would have the lowest crime rate!!! Switzerland has one of the lowest levels of poverty in the world. It does not have the violent history of the States. Also every man recieves training on how to own a gun therefore they would fall into the responsible gun owners category who are not a problem.
Check out the bumper stickers inside the gun cabinet.
My dad has never owned a gun but he still has this sticker in the garage. Stickers don't hurt people.
Here's a video of Neph out hunting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfr2cZXWBqI
He obviously forgot to attend a gun safety seminar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Qdx6vky0&feature=related
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4. February 2010 @ 11:28 |
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Dude you just don't get it!!
Have a good day and keep up the fight.. I'm sure you'll win in the end.
oh... btw.. let's take away cars too... there are so many irresponsible car owners out there.. they speed, run red lights, run over people, used in drive bys (are they the reason for drive bys or is it the guns??)...
How bout knives??
Or baseball bats??
Or golf clubs?? (Tiger might want that one!!!)
Or video games??
Or Rock music??
COME ON man!!!! Think about what you're talking about!!!!!!!!!!!
The government here has taken to many of our liberties thus far.... and if given this there is NO end in sight!!! Trust me!!
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