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4. February 2010 @ 11:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:
Dude you just don't get it!!

Have a good day and keep up the fight.. I'm sure you'll win in the end.

oh... btw.. let's take away cars too... there are so many irresponsible car owners out there.. they speed, run red lights, run over people, used in drive bys (are they the reason for drive bys or is it the guns??)...

How bout knives??

Or baseball bats??

Or golf clubs?? (Tiger might want that one!!!)

Or video games??

Or Rock music??

COME ON man!!!! Think about what you're talking about!!!!!!!!!!!

The government here has taken to many of our liberties thus far.... and if given this there is NO end in sight!!! Trust me!!


You beat me to it GM, you hit the nail on the head. A club may be the most brutal weapon to have. And, they want to ban guns, that levels the playing field for the bad guys.

Later George
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4. February 2010 @ 12:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by little155:

You beat me to it GM, you hit the nail on the head. A club may be the most brutal weapon to have. And, they want to ban guns, that levels the playing field for the bad guys.

Later George
LOL.. banning guns makes it better for the bad guys.. just ask those in the UK.. that worked well for them didn't it?? NOT!!!!

Just wanted to add something else.. LOL.

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oh... btw.. let's take away cars too... there are so many irresponsible car owners out there.. they speed, run red lights, run over people, used in drive bys (are they the reason for drive bys or is it the guns??)...
It's NEITHER... it's the frikkin idiots wielding the weapons and driving the cars... PEOPLE are PEOPLE and that's NOT gonna change... as a general rule there are gonna be law abiding citizens and criminals.. the laws are made for criminals.. but when they (criminals) DON'T follow the law then what good does it do for the law abiding citizen that is criminalized??

BAD PEOPLE are bad people and that's always gonna be in society but taking something away because the person wielding it causes harm or strikes fear into others isn't a good policy... controlling the BAD PEOPLE in this case is good policy... that means treating criminals like criminals and if the crime is serious enough then do away with said criminal.. I could add more but it's not nice.. LOL.

LIKE the fellow that shot the intruders.. I'm sure he didn't shoot those folks because they were stealing frikkin copper wire... he shot them because they accosted him and threatened his life.. BIG difference if you ask me!!!

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4. February 2010 @ 12:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cars are necessary in America and purpose is transportation.
Guns are unecessary in America and purpose is killing.
I can go through the rest but you really need to say rock music is ok.

Also what don't I get.
That you like guns and I don't and let's just leave it at that.
But just because I am against guns does not mean one of the idiots who have a gun won't shoot me because I stepped on his lawn or something stupid.
You should be angry at the gun owners who misuse their weapons and don't repect their power. They are the reason people are against guns.

Control bad people. How about starting by taking away their guns??

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4. February 2010 @ 12:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by BIFF0:


Control bad people. How about starting by taking away their guns??

All a bad guy has to do would is get another gun. The Black Market is full of them. Even in the UK, where guns are banned, they can be had on the Black Market. So, what now?
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4. February 2010 @ 12:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In Louisiana, The legislature has decided NOT to give the college students or visitors the right to pack 'em. Mistake in my opinion. LSU is mostly surrounded by crime ridden areas. E,W and N.

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Originally posted by BIFF0:

Control bad people. How about starting by taking away their guns??

If we can carry our guns around, we can control the ""Bad people", vermin, more easily and cheaply, than trying to take their guns away. what a joke.

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4. February 2010 @ 12:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by BIFF0:
Cars are necessary in America and purpose is transportation.
Really?? But they're so dangerous.. they kill people too.. HOW many?? you should look that one up too.. ;)

Originally posted by BIFFO:

Guns are unecessary in America and purpose is killing.
Really VARY greatly on this one!! They are necessary!! For killing yes.. MURDER NO!!!


Originally posted by BIFFO:
I can go through the rest but you really need to say rock music is ok.
But it causes kids/people to commit suicide, murder, homicide, and to do drugs and have sex... haven't you heard?? ;)

Originally posted by BIFFO:
Also what don't I get.
That if you follow this foolish thinking it'll get you nothing but a government that is to big to control and that will take all your liberties one by one...

Originally posted by BIFFO:
That you like guns and I don't and let's just leave it at that.
Ok... if you insist. ;)

Originally posted by BIFFO:
But just because I am against guns does not mean one of the idiots who have a gun won't shoot me because I stepped on his lawn or something stupid.
Well don't step on his lawn.. or do anything stupid.. ROFL... You said it in your statement there... it's NOT the frikkin guns buddy.. it's the person wielding the gun.. it's NO different if he had a baseball bat or golf club... if that nut wants to end your life or do you harm he'll do it by any means possible...


Originally posted by BIFFO:
You should be angry at the gun owners who misuse their weapons and don't repect their power. They are the reason people are against guns.
I am.. idiots are abound in society.. thus the need for a gun!! ROFL. See this mentality is why I can't stand political parties (or is it partys)... if the agenda fits their needs then it's good, if it doesn't then it's bad... takes guns for example.. they want to ban guns?? WHY?? Is it really because they want to keep people safe or is it because they believe the NORMAL citizen is to stupid to own a gun, or is it because they want ALL the control and to do away with a possible revolution when they try to take away all your liberties... ask the people of Okinawa, Japan how they defended themselves against the emperor's men?? Or how bout the Russians that used broom handles to fight a war?? Of course part of that was due to NOT enough weapons!!

Maybe leaving it like you said...

Originally posted by BIFFO:
That you like guns and I don't and let's just leave it at that.
Ok.. but you have to leave it alone too!!! :p

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4. February 2010 @ 12:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Men and sissies, it's Neph's polite gun thread!LMAO
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4. February 2010 @ 13:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Greensman I am no match for your misquoting ability.
I will leave well alone.
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4. February 2010 @ 13:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Why I Carry a Gun

I don't carry a gun to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

I don't carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.

I don't carry a gun because I'm paranoid. I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.

I don't carry a gun because I'm evil. I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.

I don't carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.

I don't carry a gun because I'm angry. I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.

I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy. I carry a gun because, when I die and go to Heaven, I want to be a cowboy.

I don't carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.

I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

I don't carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.
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4. February 2010 @ 14:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by BIFF0:
Greensman I am no match for your misquoting ability.
I will leave well alone.
NOTHING until now pissed me off... where did I alter or misquote you??? Typical liberal BS if you ask me!!

You leave it alone as you're NOT able to discern between GOOD and BAD people... NOT what they do with the item in there hand!!

Guns don't kill/murder people... PEOPLE kill/murder people!!!!!

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4. February 2010 @ 14:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wow you seem kinda angry greensman. Maybe would best to give someone else the keys to your gun safe until you calm down. (That's just a joke no need to reply)
Masterfit I don't think the problem is you and your gun it's the people who aren't responsible enough to own a gun. And in my opinion the best way to stop those people from having a gun is for nobody to have a gun.
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4. February 2010 @ 14:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by BIFF0:
Wow you seem kinda angry greensman. Maybe would best to give someone else the keys to your gun safe until you calm down. (That's just a joke no need to reply)
Masterfit I don't think the problem is you and your gun it's the people who aren't responsible enough to own a gun. And in my opinion the best way to stop those people from having a gun is for nobody to have a gun.
When you convince the bad guys and governments to disarm, I will too, also, as well...........ain't gonna happen
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4. February 2010 @ 17:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Nephilim:
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No need I will just ask them nicely not to shoot me.
I hope you're not serious but given the naivety of most liberals I'll take you serious and say good luck with that. I'll bring flowers to your grave (nice ones even, any requests while we're at it?) and let your grieving family know in the best, kindest and most diplomatic way possible that others more sensible than you had advised you away from the fanciful world of idealism towards the practical world of realism. In other words, grow some balls and try to act like the MEN and WOMEN that fought a revolution, expanded our country, fought a civil war, expanded our country some more, fought two world wars, made it through the cold war, Korea, Viet Nam and other wars henceforth. All those feats take guts, not sniveling, waiting for the cops to save us, trying to reason with ANY religious fanatic or fanciful delusions that banning ANYTHING actually makes anything go away. Think about it. We can't even keep drugs out of any single SUPERMAX friggin prison. How do you propose to ban guns in our entire country? Please enlighten me. I'd love to hear your plan to save us from the scourge of gun violence.

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Gun users are well known for being rational understanding folk.
Heard that sarcasm so many times. Soooooooo lame by now. Michael Moore fan I take it? Believed everything you saw/heard in Bowling For Columbine? Did you perchance actually take the time to check the veracity of said movie? Bet not. Correct if I'm wrong and please do give me (forgive me for the quotes but as somebody that follows the issue closely I'm obliged) "the facts". In all seriousness, please do.

On a rational and logical note, it looks good that very soon Arizona will make it legal to carry concealed with no concealed carry permit required and university professors will be able to carry fireams on campus! Thank you very much! Think twice about a school shooting like Virginia Tech, we'll shoot your sorry ass here. Glad I live in a state that still has guts and sense for reasonable gun laws. Come on liberals, lets take bets! Whatta ya bet, ye misguided pansies, that if Arizona allows not only unrestricted concealed carry but Wild Bill Hickockesque packin' professors we're gonna turn into a modern day OK Corral? Please be reminded that we've already allowed the carry of guns in establishments that serve alcohol (read bars) and we've yet to have even one single drunken shoot out like our local liberals predicted.



Miss and love all who've kept this thread going both pro and con, and I LOVE the con because I love the true spirit of America! Like all great Americans I love my view and will listen to/consider all others even if they are make no sense!
Hi Neph! It's good to see you are still kicking!

I hope that all is well with you, sir.

Life is good!
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no no on the rock music , i can't live without it lol




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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
no no on the rock music , i can't live without it lol
Ya big sissy.... hehehe. :) Howdy buddy.... hope all is well in your part of these United States. :D

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5. February 2010 @ 15:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi :)

NEPH :)....here one minute, gone the next (faster than a speeding bullet)
if LOCO and greensman have guns...i want one as well


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5. February 2010 @ 20:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by gurnard:
hi :)

NEPH :)....here one minute, gone the next (faster than a speeding bullet)
if LOCO and greensman have guns...i want one as well
What size ya want or need?? lol. :p

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5. February 2010 @ 22:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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NEPH :)....here one minute, gone the next (faster than a speeding bullet)
if LOCO and greensman have guns...i want one as well

How large is your big toe?




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7. February 2010 @ 13:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi :)
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What size ya want or need?? lol. :p


knowing you loco and neph, it will have to be a BIG one to compete :)

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How large is your big toe?

with the gun i'd need. about the size of my foot


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7. February 2010 @ 17:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by gurnard:
hi :)
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What size ya want or need?? lol. :p


knowing you loco and neph, it will have to be a BIG one to compete :)

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How large is your big toe?

with the gun i'd need. about the size of my foot
NEPHY is the one you have to compete with.. ROFL. He's the NUT in the group!!! :D

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8. February 2010 @ 22:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Neph is the sane one, that is the scary part to me.


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15. February 2010 @ 20:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Nephilim:
On a rational and logical note, it looks good that very soon Arizona will make it legal to carry concealed with no concealed carry permit required and university professors will be able to carry fireams on campus! Thank you very much! Think twice about a school shooting like Virginia Tech, we'll shoot your sorry ass here. Glad I live in a state that still has guts and sense for reasonable gun laws. Come on liberals, lets take bets! Whatta ya bet, ye misguided pansies, that if Arizona allows not only unrestricted concealed carry but Wild Bill Hickockesque packin' professors we're gonna turn into a modern day OK Corral?

Originally posted by BIFF0:

I think it would be better if that Virgina Tech nut couldn't get a gun then after shooting some people a professor wastes him. And what if the professor loses it?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/wo...icle7026077.ece
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15. February 2010 @ 20:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and just wait until the economy collapses, we will all need to carry and conceal to protect our property,things etc. our 14.2 trillion dollar debut is unsustainable. we are paying in interest of our debut 84% of the GDP when it hits 90% its game over people. the US debut clock

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

the US unfunded liabilities at 107,000,000,000,000 can't be fixed

this is one reason ammo is wiped from the shelves everywhere!




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15. February 2010 @ 21:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah typical gun lover. The worlds gonna end, everyones out to get me. Before the economy it was terrorists and so on.
I would hate to have to live my life in constant fear.

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It seems to me like you are the one living in fear, you want to get rid of guns!!
 
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