|
The Official OC (OverClocking) Thread!
|
|
|
NO Fanboy comments needed
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. February 2010 @ 23:22 |
Link to this message
|
48C idle is a little worrying, since the Phenoms are meant to be quite efficient at idle
My main concern though is that to clock the CPU high you'll need to up the voltage to a point where thermal runaway will occur, the rate heat enters the cooler will exceed that which it can remove it - the temperature will never stop rising until you reach the emergency shutdown temperature.
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
13. February 2010 @ 23:24 |
Link to this message
|
|
I did shut off cool and quiet...
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. February 2010 @ 23:29 |
Link to this message
|
Still, my i5 750 upped to 1.36V does not retain its energy saving features, and yet it idles at 30ºC, considering the ambient tempertaure must be at least 24ºC, that's quite a landmark difference in Delta T. I'd recommend trying to get a tower cooler to progress further, especially if you say the mount is dodgy, which could potentially come off at some stage.
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
13. February 2010 @ 23:37 |
Link to this message
|
|
Everest stated during install, that more or less my motherboard was not recognized. So it could be misinterpreting the sensor.
You're right though. I want to run this CPU beyond the 940, so I should definitely consider a different cooler. Do you have any to recommend me? I don't like the way newegg categorized the cpu coolers. Am3 Coolers are not organized very good at all. I realize that probably most AM2/AM2+ coolers are the same.
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. February 2010 @ 23:39 |
Link to this message
|
|
Something like the Noctua NH-U12P, pretty sure that fits AM3.
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
13. February 2010 @ 23:52 |
Link to this message
|
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
13. February 2010 @ 23:56 |
Link to this message
|
|
The Xigmatek I perceive as the 'poor man's' tower cooler, it's rather poorly made, it has a design flaw that weakens its cooling performance but it is of course cheaper. A middle man between standard size coolers like the freezer 7 and 'proper' tower coolers like the NH-U12.
It would probably suffice for your 965 overclocking efforts, but I don't like relying on cheap tacky things when it comes to such important jobs as CPU cooling.
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 00:06 |
Link to this message
|
You stand by the efficiency of the Noctua then eh. LOL! If you think it can cool very well at low rpms, then it must be worth that much.
Oh geeze! I think I'm looking at the backplate on the bottom of my motherboard :P Apparently AMD boards have a back-plate pre-installed.
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 00:14 |
Link to this message
|
The Noctua is every bit as good as the TRUE, which is an awesome cooler. It's just pricey because you get two fans with it as standard. Sadly, Thermalright stuff seems even more expensive in the US than it is here.
Suffice to say, the peak cooling performance of 120mm coolers is achieved at around 1500rpm fan speed. The fans provided with the NH-U12 are 1300rpm but high-output (9-blade), so are about the optimum performance. They're far from silent, but still much quieter than a Freezer 7 roaring at full speed, even when there's two of them running at once.
As for the AMD boards with a backplate, I suspect that most of them do except the cheap ones, and that said backplate must be present for the cooler to fit.
|
AfterDawn Addict
15 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 08:19 |
Link to this message
|
Most higher end AMD board will have a backplate built in.
If you don't want the Noctua there's always the Tuniq 120. Currently using 2 and I will swear by them ;P
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388 |
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 11:14 |
Link to this message
|
|
Just be sure to buy the original, and not the Extreme version, as it's rubbish :P
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 12:05 |
Link to this message
|
Currently running 965 at 3.8Ghz. Feels pretty good. Ram is at 1648Mhz. Am noticing an 8 - 15% increase in Dvd shrink analyzation times, compared to 3.5Ghz 940. Windows 7 is at least a little more responsive. Whether that's due to Mobo or CPU... perhaps time will tell. I can't run the other board yet, til I get my PROPER SSD! LOL! I'll get some other goodies installed and see how she does. E.g. Rebuilder.
That Tuniq 120 is sexy estuansis ;) I'm strongly considering it. I also had the idea of modding my current sink. Not sure about that one though LOL!
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
15 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 12:41 |
Link to this message
|
|
The Tuniq 120 is every bit as good as the Thermalright Ultra and the Noctua. Not to mention cheaper than the Ultra when I got it. It cools very well and runs near-silent(under the sound of the rest of the case) at 1300-1400RPM under load. All my fans are set to auto, and everything is cool and quiet.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 13:20 |
Link to this message
|
|
Your sig says your Cooler is Lapped. Was that really necessary? I eyed the copper plate on the arctic freezer(my cooler) and it was relatively smooth. Very slight imperfections. However, I loaded it up with arctic 5. So there should be literally zero air bubbles or space in between cpu and cooler. In fact I think I may have overdone it. It oozed out ever so slightly. Since I'm getting a new cooler, is arctic 5 really my best option? I noticed its a different color than AMD's stock stuff. And my 940 was running slightly cooler on a stock cooler. At least according to the bios. Dang it! I really wanna be running both of them! :(
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 14:19 |
Link to this message
|
Thermal paste fills the gaps caused by the uneven surfaces of the CPU cooler and CPU heatspreader, which leave gaps. Thermal paste is always essential, as the smallest gap has a big effect on Delta T, but thermal paste conducts heat very poorly compared to actual copper, thus you want as little need for it as possible, and for the surfaces to be as even as possible. This is why lapping has an effect - it is however a lot of effort to go to, and while it gives better temps, there aren't really any situations where you'll overheat without lapping, but be safe if you do it.
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 14:36 |
Link to this message
|
|
I think I'm beginning to understand your desire for a silent PC. Once you have one, anything less is undesirable LOL! I'm noticing while the fans are at low rpm's, the HDD's are actually more audible than I'd like. But I do have the side panel off, and 4 7200rpm drives are far from inaudible ;)
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 14:37 |
Link to this message
|
|
Indeed, and it only gets worse from here... :D
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 14:40 |
Link to this message
|
|
so if thermal compound is not a good conductor, would it be smarter to simply apply the thermal compound, and scrape away leaving ONLY the imperfections with the compound? Much like mudding holes in a wall. If copper to CPU is better, this seems like a good idea.
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
15 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 16:31 |
Link to this message
|
That's why I get away with such low temps on everything. Lapping dropped the temps on this chip 3*C. While this may not seem like much a bunch of small touches add up. Several fan grill mods, some quiet Cooler Master fans, new thermal paste on everything in the PC, etc.
The bottom of my first Tuniq was not bad, and the second was like a mirror. But both of them had a curved surface, I would assume warped from soldering the pipes into the cooler(they have since corrected this problem and offer a free replacement for those affected). Also, my Freezer 64 Pro had a perfectly flat bottom but mine arrived all scuffed up. All that needed was some mild abrasive polish. Shone like a mirror :)
I was having some intermittent temp troubles with this CPU before. If my ambient temp got really warm the CPU temp would increase disproportionately, Sometimes to 55*C. I have since turned all of my case fans from max to auto and the airflow seems more balanced because my CPU runs cooler in all scenarios. Ran quad Orthos for 12 hours last night with the heat blasting and it topped at 45 all night. I couldn't be happier with my CPU right now.
I will also mention that both of my CPUs themselves are lapped too.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 16:34 |
Link to this message
|
|
You lapped your cpu LOL! Didn't that remove the model# and what not? If you resell, surely that drops the value. Just curious here :p
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
15 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 16:46 |
Link to this message
|
|
Not too worried about that. Will probably get sold to friends who know it's a good chip. But yes the printing on the IHS is gone. I know for sure that it's a perfectly flat surface though. I also sanded in one direction so the grain of the sanding scratches is uniform. Sanded with 2000 grit BTW.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
|
AfterDawn Addict
7 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 16:48 |
Link to this message
|
|
Yah, after seeing your "Lapped" in your signature, I did some light reading on the matter. 2000grit came highly recommended. Though hard to find for some people LOL! I imagine home depot has it, or an auto body shop...
To delete, or not to delete. THAT is the question! |
AfterDawn Addict
15 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 16:52 |
Link to this message
|
|
My dad does auto body work, so 2000 grit sandpaper is plentiful here :)
If you do lap be extremely careful not to sand all the way through the IHS. The results aren't pretty. Luckily mine didn't need a whole lot of sanding before it was true. Some are worse than others, but all CPUs can benefit from it.
Also, if you want to get really daring you can remove the IHS completely and go bareback ala the Athlon XP :)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 14. February 2010 @ 16:55
|
AfterDawn Addict
|
14. February 2010 @ 20:47 |
Link to this message
|
Originally posted by sammorris:
The Noctua is every bit as good as the TRUE, which is an awesome cooler. It's just pricey because you get two fans with it as standard. Sadly, Thermalright stuff seems even more expensive in the US than it is here.
Suffice to say, the peak cooling performance of 120mm coolers is achieved at around 1500rpm fan speed. The fans provided with the NH-U12 are 1300rpm but high-output (9-blade), so are about the optimum performance. They're far from silent, but still much quieter than a Freezer 7 roaring at full speed, even when there's two of them running at once.
As for the AMD boards with a backplate, I suspect that most of them do except the cheap ones, and that said backplate must be present for the cooler to fit.
Sam,
When buying a Freezer 7, you need to be sure it's rev.2!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134
Even at full speed it's quieter than to old version was at mid speeds. Moves more air at a lower rpm too! The video card makes more noise at 50%, and it's pretty quiet. Same thing goes for the Freezer 64 as well! Same fan!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
 |
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
AfterDawn Addict
4 product reviews
|
14. February 2010 @ 20:59 |
Link to this message
|
|
Forgive my scepticism but the cooler design is almost identical, and the same goes for the fan. The v2 is a v1 with some very minor design alterations. I don't imagine at the same fan speed the v2 performing outside testing accuracy range.
|
