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Using DVDremake and Other Tools with DVDrebuilder And CCE
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30. June 2004 @ 14:16 |
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Glad to hear about your success, let me know how the strip angles function works. I'm trying to find another multi angled movie in my collection so I can try it again but unfortunately they don't print that information on the case and I've a limited number of Disney films.
BTW Hyenas are members of the canine family, and badgers and wolverines are members of the weasel family and therefore should be reserved for the guy that came up with the DVD structure.
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30. June 2004 @ 14:27 |
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I didn't even realize there WAS another way to remove angles except to hide the blocks, and yes I have the pro version. PS-soph, I have a ton of Disney if you need a couple.
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30. June 2004 @ 14:34 |
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bigorange
There is another way (right click strip angles) if only I can get it to work without crashing. Vurbal will look into it but maybe you could too with you large collction of Disney films. I only tried the function with DareDevil and it didn't work.
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30. June 2004 @ 15:17 |
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@vurbal, yes it is as easy as right clicking and selecting remove angles :). There is one drawback and that is if you restore then it will not link the blocks when you view them normally and the overall sizing is also affected :(
another pointer for people is that when you test export be careful you don't make it too short on the time you set it to crop at. I was using 3 seconds to get a quick export and sometimes menu buttons don't kick in until after 3 seconds or even more
There is an option not to crop motion menus and it's worth that little extra wait to export the full motion menu's and only crop the video. If the DVD has long motion menu's then you may want to do it but they may have the buttons at the end of the video so it's up to you. I've started using 5 seconds and full motion menus so that it gives it enough time for the player to react to anything. Ideally it needs 2 settings, one for menu's and one for titles
talking about the Farscape DVD's, there's a few tricks I have seen and learnt that could cripple a few DVD backup tools and I was tempted to email the studios and ask for some money :)
Lion King Special Edition is a multiangle (I think). The con that it is as it's 1 extra cell and a longer one or something like that. That's all the difference is to the normal version on the DVD so it's not worth stripping the few mb's!
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shoeila
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30. June 2004 @ 15:19 |
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Well, now I've tried a mixture of things to get RB/CCE to work with Alien Quadrilogy and remake.
This post will be a bit long, so skip it if it gets boring :)
It goes like this: I used SmartRipper and stripped the angle 1 main title. I left everything else intact. Now, this rip should make only the movie show up on play, and it did. No menu. I then looked at the orginal files from the dvddecrypter full rip and compared the files. I noticed the missing files and just added them (.ifo and .vob files), and guess what. After I modified the menues and nothing else in remake, rebuilder accepted it and I got no overflow errors.
Much of the final product plays fine. Menues functionality perfect, along with all other functions except for those I chose to hide. The only BIG problem is continued playback of the main title. I jump from the menu to say chapter 3 of Alien and then I watch a little while. This is the scene with the discussions of full shares etc, hehe. Suddenly the movie skips to the next chapter, hmm. I retested the strip from SmartRipper and there were no skips present there. So the menu and other files I added must have made that problem present itself.
So close, but still so far. I guess the menues .ifo file must be incompatible with SmartRippers movie only rip or ??
Nice experiment though, wouldn't you say :D
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30. June 2004 @ 15:46 |
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shoeila, nope, it isn't just smartripper. The exact same result for me using dvdstripper, vobblanker, and dvdremake. In fact, I've only gotten one to work after re-authoring with rbldr/cce. My chapters would play, then skip to the next one, or the 1st 5 or 6 chapters would just skip to the next until one would play after about a 30sec. play in each. Or, it would skip back to menu. I just got one to work using remake and have no idea how. I can use the exact same re-authored files in any other prog and they work. So somebody please tell me!
GO VOLS !
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shoeila
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30. June 2004 @ 17:49 |
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OK. I say screw the interleaved cells error I get with rebuilder! I KNOW I have removed the angle 2 with decrypter. I also reauthored a bit with remake, but only the menues. I'll try to run CCE/RB despite the message and see if it's only a latent "mark" or leftover in some of the .ifo files. I'll let you know how this turns out.
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30. June 2004 @ 19:42 |
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I find it very interesting that people have had such problems getting modified DVDs to work with DVD-RB just because I've had 100% success. The Farscape disc I ran through DRM today was the first one of that series I haven't had to re-encode, so I can't say I've had success with it yet, but I've used IFOEdit to strip out multiple angles (don't remember the movie) and then used RB on it with no problem. I tried doing the removing angles with Decrypter and then using IFOEdit to correct the IFOs, but DVD-RB still threw up an error, which is why I tried doing the entire operation in IFOEdit in the first place.
If anyone wants to try IFOEdit for removing angles, let me know and I can provide instructions.
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30. June 2004 @ 19:55 |
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So far I have been pleased with the Remake then CCE/rebuilder results.
Matrix was a challenge but when I compared the Shrink reauthor screen to DVDremake I understood the blocks to hide and it worked fine.
Rebuilder has only balked when I put in a multiangle movie without remaking first.
I did the 2nd disc from planet of the apes and it worked fine after remake. It had an episode like layout. I haven't done any actual episode DVDs though.
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dimad
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1. July 2004 @ 01:18 |
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@Sophocles
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If you've got a copy of DareDevil I promise that you will get to play with multi angles and interleaving. I seem to recall that DVDremake counted 12 angles in the movie.
I'm curious what you call "angles" :) There is a limit of 9 angles for any DVD.
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dimad
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1. July 2004 @ 01:25 |
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@shoeila
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OK. I say screw the interleaved cells error I get with rebuilder!
I can't find if it was mentioned somewhere here, but you can convert interleaved cells into plain cells with DvdReMake (just rightlick on interleaved block (marked as ILVU) and select "split interleaved").
I guess RB should have no problems with such disk after that.
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shoeila
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1. July 2004 @ 04:52 |
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vurbal
I'd love to know how you use IfoEdit to remove angles. I've had a look at the program and I figured out where the angle information is placed in the .ifo files. But I haven't done anything more than that. Could you provide some details vurbal?
BTW I've found out that the problem with playback of discs ripped with dvddecrypter or smartripper f.ex. is the ifo file. It is related to copying over the original files, specially the video_ts.ifo file. If you try running the vob file without initating the ifo file, the movie plays fine! So it has nothing to do with reauthoring causing the problem as far as I can tell (again I might be mistaken, I'm making assumptions on little data).
Anyways, what I understand from this is that vurbals success might be in using ifoedit to make the ifo files compatible with the vob files!
Dimad
That won't work with rebuilder I believe. You get the same results as if you hide the one ver. of the disc, don't you? I might be mistaken here, so I'll give it a try and manually split every ILVU frame/segment.
Thanks for the suggestion Dimal.
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1. July 2004 @ 05:21 |
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dimad
Welcome aboard I may have miscounted the angles because it was the first multi angled movie I ever did and I didn't write anything down. I'm new at using DVDremake like everyone else here. I was unable to use the feature strip all anlges and because each time I tried it crashed so I chose hide all blocks instead. But whatever I did the movie backed up successfully.
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1. July 2004 @ 05:52 |
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Dimad, I was unaware of the strip angle feature, so I, like sophocles, used "hide Blocks" and it worked fine. However I am going to try it on a Disney movie and see how it turns out. Now, if I could just get it to work with rebuilder/cce!(altho my last attempt did work, I'm still holding my breath). I have come to the conclusion that rbldr/cce is very fickle when it comes to using re-authored files. lol That is by no means a criticism of the app, just an inability on my behalf, I suspect.
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1. July 2004 @ 06:04 |
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dimad
Did I mention that if some of these folks don't get dvdremake and DVDrebuilder/CCE to work that I may have to change my handle and return to AD as am unknown newbie.
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1. July 2004 @ 06:26 |
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Sophocles,
Then we'll just have to get it working for them won't we. This is too good a tool to not be able to use.
Shoeila,
I have to go out for a couple of hours. I'll post the IFOEdit instructions as soon as I get back.
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1. July 2004 @ 06:38 |
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Vurbal
The funny thing is in my clumsy meandering through the DVD's structure I've done over a dozen backups and only had one fail.
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shoeila
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1. July 2004 @ 06:41 |
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Vurbal
np, I'm on "vacation" now and writing preliminary theory and possible angles (yes, angles again, hehe) etc on my master degree project, so I have all the time in the world :)
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1. July 2004 @ 08:06 |
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Sophocles, changing your handle wouldn't work, in the short time I've come to know you, I would definitely recognize it was you no matter what your "handle" stated. signed, got the last one to work HA HA HA(that means in your face lol)
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1. July 2004 @ 08:18 |
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vurbal, I can use remake, have been using it with InstantCopy 8 and DVDcopy 2 with no problems. It's a great tool, hell I had it before either of you. I just can't get it to work in rebuilder/cce,(i'm crying now, you just can't see me) What's driving me crazy is that the same files I re-authored in remake work in the other apps. So, that can't be the problem, it's got to be something I'm doing in rebuilder. But, I swear, If I go straight into rebuilder without using a reauthoring prog then those files work fine also and again no problems. So that indicates I'm doing everything right in rebuilder/cce. I've done several movies that required no re-authoring, they had no extras, they were just looooong, and they turned out fantastico. My last attempt worked, and to my knowledge, I did nothing different. Isn't it enuff to drive you crazy?
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dimad
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1. July 2004 @ 08:43 |
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@sophocles
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I was unable to use the feature strip all anlges and because each time I tried it crashed so I chose hide all blocks instead. But whatever I did the movie backed up successfully.
You should've posted something in DvdReMake bugs forum ( http://cdr-zone.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=21 ). Can you now? Can you reproduce the crash with latest versoin and describe what one needs to do to crash the program? Would greatly appreciate.
There is one thing I don't understand: How "Hide all blocks" can be used instead of "Strip angles"?
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1. July 2004 @ 08:50 |
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dimad
I'll rip DareDevil again later today and give it a try because you are correct in that I was using an older version. I came across DVDremake on a CDinfo web site and only joined the DVDremake forum recently. I'll get back to you today.
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1. July 2004 @ 09:48 |
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diad
I've just finished ripping DareDevil and I know you said that there are no more than 9 angles but I'm looking at DVDremake pro and I see angles 1 through 12.
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1. July 2004 @ 09:57 |
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dimad
I've just tried to strip angles from DareDevil and it crashed again, here is the info. At the top of the message, Microsoft visual c++ Runtime Library. Then Program:...r and DVDremake\DVDremake\DVDremake Pro\DVDremake Pro.exe. Abnormal Program Termination. And that's it.
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1. July 2004 @ 10:38 |
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Removing Unwanted Angles With IfoEdit
1. Start IfoEdit and click the Open button. Browse to the IFO file for the VTS with multiple angles.
2. Click the VOB Extras Button. A popup window will appear with a bunch of options on it.
3. Select Strip Streams, Strip VobIDs, Correct Vob-Unit (Navigation Pack) pointers in VOB-files, Correct Original IFO files, Remove P-UOps, Remove Macrovision, Remove Ilvu/Angle point, Adjust Vob-Unit pointers, Adjust Audio/Subp point, Remove Angles, and AutoCopy Menu-files to destination. Also select the angle you want to keep from the Keep Angle dropdown.
4. Use the button to the right of the Destination Directory field to browse to the directory you want to save the new files in and click the OK button.
5. A Stream List window will appear. Make sure any languages you want to keep are checked, both for audio and subtitles. Click the Strip It button.
6. Make sure all VOB-IDs are checked unless there are some you want to remove. Click the Strip It button.
7. When it's finished, you'll have a new version of that titleset in your destination directory. If you need to remove angles from another VTS, repeat the process from #1. You may have to close and re-open IfoEdit to remove angles from another VTS (I do anyway) otherwise it may have the Remove Angles checkbox greyed out even if there are multiple angles in the VTS.
8. Look at the source DVD and copy each VTS that wasn't stripped with IfoEdit to your destination directory. Also copy VIDEO_TS.IFO, VIDEO_TS.BUP, and VIDEO_TS.VOB.
9. Open VIDEO_TS.IFO in your destination directory with IfoEdit and click the Get VTS Sectors button. Click OK each time you're prompted, and when it's done you'll have a single angle DVD.
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