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Using DVDremake and Other Tools with DVDrebuilder And CCE
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2. July 2004 @ 19:09 |
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It was for you and others like you Doc. Just stay the course.
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2. July 2004 @ 19:59 |
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Doc409,
I agree. Sophocles' beginners thread is the missing link we need to help more people get started - especially the ones who aren't sure whether they're really interested or not. And don't worry, you'll probably be surprised to find yourself answering one of those hard questions one of these days, and realize that you've learned a lot more than you think. Just pass what you know on when you can. If you'd told me when I started that I'd be writing guides for using CCE and AviSynth I'd have said you were insane.
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2. July 2004 @ 21:26 |
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Sophocles and vurbal...Thanks for the encouragement...and I will be sure to balance the other side of the "reciprocity" equation by sharing my knowledge with others.
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MackemX
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3. July 2004 @ 00:11 |
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@Sophcocles, don't get me wrong in what I've said above. I'm just expressing the point that everyone was a newbie once and above all one thing I hate is a newbie basher and enjoy bashing the bashers sometimes :D. I don't expect everyone to learn to the degree some have but I'm actually saying I understand exactly how some peoplee are feeling right now as if we are talking double dutch ;). I've knew this is a forum for advanced users but that doesn't mean only advanced users can read and post here :)
when I started I struggled with IFOEdit and found very little info on how to use and abuse it. Once I got my head around it I wrote a couple of basic guides with a few pics and was amazed when I got over 60,000 hits in the first month online. I didn't realise how many people were also in the same boat as I was a few months earlier. I also think those guides evolved and were also copied by some major software companies but that's a different story ;). Vurbal seems to be doing exactly the same as what I did with his guides :).I guess I was a nobody from nowhere with nothing to do as I was on the sick for a year and ever since then I have become hooked on testing and helping people regarding DVD's and not just online as I've always been helpful when I can
I guess in life it's easy to show people what to do but it's much harder to make them follow it and understand. That's why we are here though to guide them :) though I will probably be more in the DRM forum as time is limited right now :( as I cannot hang around every DVD forum
@Doc409, you are right in what you say as DRM does bridge the gap between using major reauthoring tools and one clickers for most users. DVDStripper tried to take away part of the learning curve also but the GUI and workings didn't really help regarding newbies though some did appreciate that it cut out IFOEdit and IFOEdit users also appreciated the results and time you saved. If you put a little effort in you get some great results regarding DVD's :) but even now DRM may scare some people off. The great thing is when you look back once you do understand it better and then realise what was meant in the first place :) and pass on your knowledge to others. I've done it a few times when I've read an old guide or post and finally understood it :D
p.s. would you believe I don't even back DVD's up. I just don't have the time to even watch them never mind back them up so I'm happy just hanging around forums and doing the odd guides
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3. July 2004 @ 06:29 |
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MackemX
No offense taken, I knew you meant no harm by it.
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64026402
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4. July 2004 @ 06:04 |
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Good morning,
On the problem with DVDrebuilder error 0004 and 0003 on rebuild. I have been reading through the DVDrebuilder forums and It looks like a number of responses said the problem doesn't occur with CCE basic 2.67.
I have the latest 2.69.1.10 but can't find 2.67.
I have emailed for an older 2.67 but no response yet.
Does anyone else have Basic 2.67 CCE basic?
I noticed there wasn't much interest in solving the problem if DVDremake or other applications were involved.
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4. July 2004 @ 06:19 |
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I have an older copy, but unfortunately it's on my fileserver which is down at the moment because it needs a video card. I'll be putting one in it as soon as possible, but that may not be for a couple of weeks. If you find somewhere to get the older version, please post it for anyone else interested. Otherwise I'll let everyone know when I have my fileserver up and running again and I can send it to anyone (who already has a CCE Basic license) who wants to try it out.
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4. July 2004 @ 14:38 |
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vurbal, do you think using the older version of CCE would solve my problems in RB/CCE As far as using remake with them? It seems that my first success was with the older version, but I'm not sure. I've had so many attempts they are all starting to merge with one another in my mind. LOL I'll have to check into that. HAPPY 4TH!!!!!
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64026402
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4. July 2004 @ 17:45 |
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I found the last 2.67 version from the CCE basic download web site.I got to it from the link in the program under about. It was different from the site I got the purchased file from.
I'll try it and see.
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4. July 2004 @ 17:54 |
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Cool. Let us know how it turns out. I'm unlikely to switch back to any version before 2.69 for general use, since versions older than that don't allow you to set Quantization Characteristics, but if I run into problems and that will fix them it would still be a better option than no backup.
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4. July 2004 @ 18:22 |
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I'd be interested in hearing about any results good or bad obtained with version 2.67. I just did K-19 Widow Maker and the result was almost perfect until it locked on my stand alone about halfway through. This was in file mode and without having used DVDremake at all.
6040
If you could post the download URL for 2.67 the anyone else looking for it will be able to link to it.
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4. July 2004 @ 19:30 |
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Donald
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4. July 2004 @ 19:52 |
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64026402
Thanks, it couldn't have been easier.
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5. July 2004 @ 17:11 |
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Alright guys, finally, success! One BIG question! Has any body used CCE v2.67 yet since switching to v2.69? 6402, I know you were going to, did you, and if so, what happened?(BTW, thanx for the site). I had success using it with Die Hard III. Altho I didn't re-author an extreme amt. I just wanted to see if it would take with any amt. of re-authoring. Haven't watched the entire thing yet, but everything seems to be fine. If anybody else has tried it, please post. I know some of you think it's in RB, some in CCE, and some no probs at all. Soph, what did you use for F. Gump? I'm gonna try a heavy duty next, but before I do, just kinda want to test the water. Thanx all.....
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5. July 2004 @ 17:19 |
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Bigorange
My new efforts are more than I'd like to explain now but I did go back to CCE version 2.67, but I haven't tried it with DVDrebuilder yet. I'll fill you in tomorrow.
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64026402
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5. July 2004 @ 17:48 |
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OK,
I finally completed The Matrix. That was the only one I have had a problem with so far. I kept getting 0003 or 0004 error on the rebuild stage. I have been hiding blocks to get rebuilder to accept it. I couldn't get the right combination to get the complete rebuild but the files worked with shrink and IC8.
2.67 did not fix this. But I tried Dimads advice on splitting the interleaved blocks.
I used DVDremake to split the interleaved blocks in the main title manually one block at a time. It took about 10 minutes. No other titles had interleaved cells.
I didn't hide any blocks at all this time.
It finally got through thr rebuild stage. The burn is good. I have my backup.
I will go back to rebuilder and hide the unwanted extras but I'm pretty sure you can without penalty. I'm tired of The Matrix now. Next challenge.
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Donald
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5. July 2004 @ 17:55 |
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64026402
Execellent.
Interesting! And well stated,if you get one right you might want to consider writing the steps down to share with others for that same movie. (walkthrough)
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64026402
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5. July 2004 @ 18:14 |
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I just did Frequency before Matrix. It had angles but no interleaves. Hiding blocks gave no problems.
I'm hoping the splitting of inteleave cells instead of hiding them will fix the intermitant rebuilder errors for the moment. I'll check and see what I have with interleaving to backup next.
I still haven't been able to use the strip angles. It just crashes. Mabe a fix is in the works.
Donald
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5thfloor
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6. July 2004 @ 00:53 |
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I know that this is the post with the experts and most likely to get the answer I am looking for. I was wondering what is the best tool to eliminate all of the menus and extras out of a Movie? Which is the eastiest? Fastest? Before running DVD RB & CCE.
Thanks in advance..
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64026402
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6. July 2004 @ 03:12 |
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That's 3 seperate questions with 3 possible answers. For me DVDremake pro is the best but I have a lack of experience in this area.
DVDremake pro has the needed features and once you get to using it the basics are easy.
If you right click over the titles that don't contain the main movie then click hide all blocks the given title will be edited out without killing off the movie and menu and screen selection.
Doing this and splitting the interleaved blocks in the main title if present seem to get it through rebuilder with minimum fuss.
DVDremake is also good for just removing the extra warnings and unwanted stuff from movies that don't require any or much compression. It's not just for rebuilder.
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6. July 2004 @ 05:37 |
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5thfloor, DVDRemake is definitely the best re-authoring tool out there in my opinion. But it is designed to take out specific items while still retaining menu (and whatever else you want to keep). There has been some problems for some using it with rebuilder/cce. That doesn't necessarily mean it would happen to you. It sounds as tho you just want the movie by your statement"tool to eliminate all the menus and extras". If this is the case you really wouldn't need DVDRemake since it costs 25.00 and pro is 40.00. There are freebie apps out there that will do this for you. I prefer a working menu, but some just want the movie and nothing else, if that's what you're saying then you don't really need DRM.
GO VOLS !
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6. July 2004 @ 05:44 |
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The only 2 tools I know of that can remove both titles and menus are DVD Remake and DVD Stripper. Of the 2, DVD Remake is faster, easier, and more reliable. I used to use DVD Stripper just because it was the only freeware tool I found that would remove menus as well as titles, but removing menus with Stripper can leave you with a DVD that doesn't work. This is not due to a flaw in the program, but rather to bugs in IfoEdit, which Stripper is basically a front end for. As far as speed goes, DVD Stripper needs to rip the DVD itself, so for me it was much slower because I always rip my DVDs to the hard drive as soon as I get them, and then DVD Stripper always had to rip them again (much faster than the first time but still an extra step). Add to that the fact that Stripper's interface just doesn't give you access to as much information as Remake (especially the Pro version) or organize it as nicely, and to me it's a clear choice - DVD Remake all the way.
After that you have to decide between the regular and Pro versions, and for using with DVD-RB I'd say it's just as clear cut a decision. To remove interleaving (which DVD-RB can't handle yet) you need the Pro version. Interleaving seems to be getting more and more common lately, and not only does this allow you to prepare a disc for DVD-RB, but it often makes it possible to make a backup without any re-compression at all.
Edit: After reading back through your post I realized that you said "remove all menus and extras". If you want to remove everything but the movie, I agree with bigorange that you don't need any commercial software. DVD Shrink will do that for free.
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5thfloor
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6. July 2004 @ 06:13 |
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thanks everyone for your input.. one more question.. what i am trying to do is combine both discs of pearl harbor into just one without menus or extras.. please let me know if these are the correct steps.. download both disc to HD with decrypter (FILE MODE), then reauthor with shrink and add both movie files only.. change it not to compress and have to to write to HD.. then use DVD-RB & CCE.. if so is dvdshrink just creating the file structures for me? or is it actually touching the movie files?
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6. July 2004 @ 06:28 |
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You could actually skip DVD Decrypter altogether (most of the time) and just make movie only backups to the hard drive in DVD Shrink, and then use DVD Shrink to make a compliation with both movies. As long as you make sure to use No Compression each time through Shrink it won't alter the video in any way.
Just a little tip for DVD-RB settings. You may get better results by resizing to Half D1, but it depends on how much compression the movies need.
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5thfloor
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6. July 2004 @ 06:36 |
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thanks vurbal..
Quote:
You may get better results by resizing to Half D1
what exactly is that doing?
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