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Using DVDremake and Other Tools with DVDrebuilder And CCE
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1. July 2004 @ 10:43 |
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dimad
Sorry I missed the last part of your question. I have no idea how hide all blocks worked but it did. After failing to get the strip all angles function to work I became frustrated. I then went to all of the title sets before the one that contained the main movie and selected hide all blocks. I was Then able TO use DVDrebuilder and CCE which rejected the movie previously but now it worked. Its playing as I am writing this so that I can look for any flaws I might have missed. The movie start right at the 20 century splash screen.
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1. July 2004 @ 11:25 |
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@Sophocles
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I've just finished ripping DareDevil and I know you said that there are no more than 9 angles but I'm looking at DVDremake pro and I see angles 1 through 12.
We either call different things angle or somethig is wrong in DRM. Can you mail me (support at dimadsoft dot com) a zip with screenshot with 12 angles and all ifo files from that disk?
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1. July 2004 @ 11:30 |
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@vurbal
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Removing Unwanted Angles With IFOEdit ...
May be something has changed in the very latest (.96 I think) version, but before there were some problems removing angles with IFOEdit.
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1. July 2004 @ 11:35 |
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I never tried it with 0.95 (the first version I had) because I didn't have a clue what I was doing (just followed some guides and crossed my fingers), but I've used 0.96 on some Disney movies and they play fine. Of course that doesn't mean that it works exactly right, but it does appear to. Fortunately now that I have DRM I won't have to worry about it any more.
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shoeila
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1. July 2004 @ 13:04 |
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Thanks for the instructions vurbal!!
I'll give it a try shortly :)
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1. July 2004 @ 13:10 |
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No problem. Let us know how it turns out.
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1. July 2004 @ 13:36 |
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Vurbal
I too would like to thank you for posting the instructions for IFOedit. I'll give them a try tomorrow. We have perhaps forgotten a little of the original purpose of this thread and that was DVDremake and other tools. But we can always count on you to keep us ontrack with something that's free while you check out DVDremake.
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shoeila
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2. July 2004 @ 03:23 |
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Vurbal
Sorry to say it didn't work.
The discs that's bugging my ass is the Alien Quadrilogy pack, as I've said earlier. There is A LOT of cell interleaving going on on theses discs, might be what's causing so much pain for me. The symptom is, as it has been lately, that the disc skips like a maniac after you've watched a short while (10-15 sec).
Do you think a newer ver. of dvdremake would help? I'm using v. 1.4.6. And this program seems to do the job best. I get a perfect result except CCE/RB won't have it.
Could the PAL standard influence the outcome of the ripping process, program incompatibility etc??
Bigorgange - I feel with you man, we seem to have the same problem. Everything else I've tested with CCE/RB works fine. Every single time.
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2. July 2004 @ 08:40 |
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I just ran the Matrix through Rebuilder yesterday (after removing all the ILVU and some other crap with DRM), and unfortunately it chokes on one of the blank cells while rebuilding. I'm going to start from scratch on it so I have detailed information to post on the DRM forums if it fails again. I'm also trying another tool for Rebuilder called RB-Keeper. It allows you to keep some original cells (or in this case Remake's cells), and I'm hoping it will allow me bypass Rebuilder's issues with the problem cell. What's strange is that it doesn't happen with the first several blanks, so if I can just figure out the difference between the ones that work and the one it stops on I'll be in business.
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MackemX
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2. July 2004 @ 14:23 |
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@vurbal, is your Matrix region 1 or 2?, I have region 2 here
have you compared the before and after DRM IFO's? and do you have them handy as they may be required if you have more issues
are you hiding the blocks?. I haven't loaded Matrix into DRM but what about replacing it with blank blocks from the Matrix DVD instead of hiding them?
Does your output have the 0kb VOB files still?
@shoeila, you not got version 2 yet? I know its extra to upgrade to PRO but it's worth it ;)
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2. July 2004 @ 14:39 |
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MackemX,
It's Region 1. Just to make sure I understand you, are you suggesting replacing the the blocks I blanked the first time with blocks that were blank on the original? I hadn't thought of that, but I guess it makes sense. I didn't get any 0kB VOBs, but the 2 titlesets that I hid completely, 1 and 3, are 90kB and 80kb respectively.
Oh, and thanks for the info on Mark's Tray DVD Player. I've used it a little, and I find the amount of information it gives me amazing. Unfortunately I can't use it right now because somehow Cyberlink's DirectShow filters became unregistered and I can't register them again - even if I uninstall and reinstall PowerDVD.
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2. July 2004 @ 15:01 |
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Wow! What a great thread this is turning out to be, great discussions. Vurbal, makemX, and diad just remember to throw a bone every now and then to those of us who are still stepping through the learning curve.
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2. July 2004 @ 15:28 |
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Sophocles...
for a guy like me some of it does seem like a foreign language...but I'm trying to keep up. I picked up DareDevil...as you suggested...last night and plan to dig in this weekend. If I get too lost, I'll dig out a Disney. I'm anxious to see how user-friendly ReMake Pro is going to be...by using Shrink as the baseline of my experience with re-authoring.
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2. July 2004 @ 15:34 |
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MackemX, that tray player is an awesome tool, what a relief knowing when you go to burn there are no surprizes in store after checking all your work with that little gem. Hip Hip HOOrah!
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2. July 2004 @ 15:45 |
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bigorange
MackemX, that tray player is an awesome tool, what a relief knowing when you go to burn there are no surprizes in store after checking all your work with that little gem. Hip Hip HOOrah!
How long does it take you to check the movie?
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2. July 2004 @ 16:03 |
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GO VOLS !
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MackemX
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2. July 2004 @ 16:14 |
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@vurbal, yeah that's what I mean about using a donor blank from the original. Though it's a longshot you never know :) as the more things you try the sooner you find a solution ;)
as for the 0kb, I'm talking about the original VOB sizes as I recall Matrix has at least one 0kb Menu VOB. Processing with some tools removes this VOB as it's not referenced in the IFO's and Nero moans at it also if you burn afterwards if it is there. DVDStripper also removed this VOB (well DVDDecrypter never ripped it) and created a non compliant DVD but we soon fixed that
@Sophocles, we have all hit the learning curve at one stage :). I remember when I first opened IFOEdit while reading a guide and said sod that and closed it :D. A few hours later (well endless hours hunting around them) I feel rather comfortable within a DVD structure and try to help others with what I've learnt
@all, mark's player is a great tool if you like messing around with your DVD's due to it's extra features
@Doc409, if you just use DVDReMake to look through the DVD to select your editing then you may find it overwhelming. If you play the DVD first with Marks player you can then make a note of the VTS/PGC's you want to keep/remove as it tells you what is playing at any time as well as the register values. Once you have your notes then using DRM will be simple as it's the notes you make will allow you to find the crap a lot quicker :)
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2. July 2004 @ 16:15 |
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Hmm! I use it too but it takes too long to check and it's easier to just blow away a couple of $.60 discs. Like we need another 15 to 20 minutes added to a "DVDremake/DVDrebuilder/CCE" backup. At this rate it's going to take hours to get a stable playing disc backed. Beyond improving ourselves climbing the learning curve, what's the point?
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2. July 2004 @ 16:20 |
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I never thought about using it First......before going into remake, I was just checking afterwards.
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2. July 2004 @ 16:46 |
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@MackemX
@Sophocles, we have all hit the learning curve at one stage :)
I don't have a problem with the "learning curve," but perhaps Doc409 does. If what we're doing here is only for the few of us who "gets it," then we've isolated our interests to serve a very small population of people. We need to bring people aboard not confuse them.
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2. July 2004 @ 17:48 |
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@MachemX...Thanks for the tip on Mark's Tray Player before going into ReMake. I think it will prove invaluable. I have already "played" with both programs (Mark's and RMP) to get the feel of their interfaces...but will wait until I have some time this weekend to concentrate on it . I think I would be fooling myself if I thought that I should be able to get through this by dabbling at it. It's not a one-clicker!!!
@Sophocles...you make a very good point above...and I do expect a steep learning curve. I think taking this on comes down to motivation...and boredom. I see ReMake as a natural progression beyond the current re-author limitations of Shrink, and it is fun to learn something new - especially if it can be a quick-study. I know that there are other tools that a select group uses, but I lack a combination of time and patience to make them work. I guess what I am saying here is that I fall within that "market niche" that is willing to spend an hour or two backing up my new DVD's exactly the way I want them. But if I have to make an occupation out of it, I already have one of those. It is also my own observation that the DVD back-up market is likely 75% one-clickers, 20% "Level I" re-authors, and 5% serious "Level II" re-authors. I am currently in the 20% Level I.
The thing is...any time there is a movement toward change or progress, there are always a few trailblazers for the rest of us. That is how I see the group on this thread. These type's of peolpe are essential for the change process. I also see dimadsoft as trying to craft a product where my 20% group can get the results that the 5% group is now getting...and to do so with a minimal learning curve. I see myself as a good test of this.
I think that in answer to Sophocles concern...perhaps I should share a "newbee's" experience with ReMake in another thread come next week...and let this one take its course. It has certainly pulled in a lot of good people.
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2. July 2004 @ 17:52 |
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I think that we should keep this thread for advanced users and have another for beginners. I've started a new thread related to what we are doing here but for beginners instead. They should be directed to post all of their questions there.
BTW and we should all be prepared to help them.
The beginners link'
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/92614
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2. July 2004 @ 17:54 |
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We need to bring people aboard not confuse them.
Words of wisdom. Like MackemX, I remember when I first tried to copy a DVD and opened up IFOEdit. I'm very rarely intimidated by a piece of software, but that program made absolutely no sense to me. When I decided to try out stripping extra angles with it a couple of months ago I hadn't used it for anything (besides Get VTS Sectors) since the first version of DVD Shrink came out. I was amazed that I didn't have to look anything up in a guide even though I'd never tried doing it before. Fortunately the software we have available to backup DVDs is light years ahead of where it was when I started (that was days before DVDXCopy came out of beta), and it's a lot easier to help people get started. The real revolution of the last year or so (as I see it) is the proliferation of tools with great interfaces for doing complicated things. I consider DRM to be the ultimate "easy interface for complicated operations" software right now. I still have a little bit of a hard time understanding IFOEdit when it comes to analyzing a disc's structure, but with DRM I can follow (most of) the commands and see what's going on. Now we just need to help more people do that and the rest is easy. I'm also glad to see so many people who are willing to forego the shortcuts and learn whatever's necessary to get exactly the backup they want. There's room for everybody's way of doing things, but the more interest there is in the more complex methods, the more accessible it will get (and the more tools there'll be that I'm interested in).
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2. July 2004 @ 18:01 |
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Vurbal
excellent analysis and "right on the money."
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2. July 2004 @ 19:05 |
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Sophocles...thanks much for starting the "Beginner's Corner." Clearly I don't know enough to add anything of substance here in this thread...yet...but I've learned enough, and was given enough help, to get me on my way through yet another "right of passage" in the art of DVD re-authoring. Thanks to all.
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