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First PS3 backup info released
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24. February 2007 @ 17:24 |
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I wanted to use an external hdd when the iso loader comes out. I was wondering if anyone knows what I specifically need. I have an external hdd case that hooks up with a usb cable. It only uses IDE drives though. I just want to make sure I don't need any special adaptors or cords etc.
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thon0925
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24. February 2007 @ 18:16 |
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You shouldnt. As long as you can hook up the HD up to a computer and the computer reconizes it you should be ready to roll. You probably need to format the HD with NTFS.
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24. February 2007 @ 18:28 |
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Cool. Thanks.
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24. February 2007 @ 18:55 |
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I think I read somewhere that playing backups off a HDD results in lesser quality compared to playing it off discs. That's why I didn't try HD Advance for my PS2 and stuck with Swap Magic. Is that true?
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24. February 2007 @ 18:58 |
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Originally posted by thon0925:
You shouldnt. As long as you can hook up the HD up to a computer and the computer reconizes it you should be ready to roll. You probably need to format the HD with NTFS.
Format to Fat if you are planning to use it int he future with your PS3 and the "iso loader"... NTFS isn read by PS3
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thon0925
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24. February 2007 @ 19:19 |
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Thats technically impossible.
Test Blu-ray media was able to hold 200Gb's.
The comercially available Blu-ray disks can hold 25-50 Gb's.
Fat32(The newest version) can hold up to 4 GB single files.
Unless the software used to make backups splits the Blu-ray into many files that is impossible.
In addition the ps3 can be exploited to run backups since the hacking software is the run handling the backups.
Anyway it really does not matter since it takes a small ammount of time to do a quick format.
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24. February 2007 @ 21:15 |
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Originally posted by jtan189:
I think I read somewhere that playing backups off a HDD results in lesser quality compared to playing it off discs. That's why I didn't try HD Advance for my PS2 and stuck with Swap Magic. Is that true?
Playing games off HDD doesnt effect game quality at all, it effects loading times of games however. With the PS2 it has only like a 2x DVD drive which has a data transfer rate of about 2.5mbps, compare that to a game running off an HDD with a theoretical speed of over 100mbps, most games dont load at that speed but there is a definite increase in game loading/performance from HDD over DVD. Helps a hell of a lot in games like GTA where data is constantly being read from disc.
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Thats technically impossible.
Test Blu-ray media was able to hold 200Gb's.
The comercially available Blu-ray disks can hold 25-50 Gb's.
Fat32(The newest version) can hold up to 4 GB single files.
Unless the software used to make backups splits the Blu-ray into many files that is impossible.
In addition the ps3 can be exploited to run backups since the hacking software is the run handling the backups.
Anyway it really does not matter since it takes a small ammount of time to do a quick format.
That is actually an interesting thing, coz im pretty sure Linux doesnt support NTFS. So what happens with ISO's dumped to the PS3 HDD from BD?
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25. February 2007 @ 06:10 |
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Originally posted by thon0925:
Thats technically impossible.
Test Blu-ray media was able to hold 200Gb's.
The comercially available Blu-ray disks can hold 25-50 Gb's.
Fat32(The newest version) can hold up to 4 GB single files.
Unless the software used to make backups splits the Blu-ray into many files that is impossible.
In addition the ps3 can be exploited to run backups since the hacking software is the run handling the backups.
Anyway it really does not matter since it takes a small ammount of time to do a quick format.
huh??? Do you have a playstation 3? I know the information on blue rays already... but what I am saying is, LINUX on the PS3 doesnt support NTFS... I have tried numerous formats.. NTFS isnt reconized, FAT is.... Thats why people have been asking and wondering how, when an ISO loader is released, are we going to play iso's bigger than 4g...
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thon0925
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25. February 2007 @ 07:24 |
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then you should probably wait until it comes out. It only takes a minute to do a quick format.
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1. March 2007 @ 05:21 |
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ok...its March 1st,wheres my ISO LOADER????? GIVE ME GIVE ME!!!!
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thon0925
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1. March 2007 @ 17:20 |
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The date when the ISO loader is expected to come out is March 23, 2007.
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1. March 2007 @ 23:51 |
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will the ps3 be 1.32 in the uk
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2. March 2007 @ 06:40 |
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The date when the ISO loader is expected to come out is March 23, 2007.
Where did you get this info from.
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2. March 2007 @ 09:11 |
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is a bluff, that's the release date for the ps3 in europe.
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2. March 2007 @ 10:58 |
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if it makes any sense at all, they will wait till after the PS3 hits europe & then maybe a little longer to exploit the current FW in the new systems. As $ony has already stated, they ditched HW emulation in the European PS2 to save about $30 per system. If consumers don't get angry (let's hope they do!!!) they'll start rolling the SW emulation of PS2 & PS1 systems into the new Jpn/U.S. systems within months.
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2. March 2007 @ 11:30 |
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is a bluff, that's the release date for the ps3 in europe.
That's what I thought. That's why I wanted to know where sj512 got his info.
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2. March 2007 @ 11:54 |
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That is assuming there will be an iso loader. This is the ps3 not the ps2.
As for linux not supporting NTFS...
NTFS-3G - Full NTFS read / write support for Linux
Saturday, 15 July 2006
The ntfs-3g driver is an open source, GPL licensed, third generation Linux NTFS driver for 32-bit, little-endian architectures which was implemented by the Linux-NTFS project. It provides full read-write access to NTFS, excluding access to encrypted files, writing compressed files, changing file ownership, access right.
The driver was successfully tested very exhaustively for a longer period of time by many ways and methods, creating and destroying millions of files and directories on newly created images, and on over 40 real, very diverse NTFS images collected over the last four years.
The driver can be downloaded from:
http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfs-3g-20070714-BETA.tgz
As yellowdog is old linux dressed up as new it is lacking in a lot of new applications, though how having NTFS support will help anybody with playing ps3 games is a mystery to me. To gain any advantage from it you will need a far larger drive than the stock one (I found a howto easily). I haven't been able to find how the ps3 drive is originally formatted from the factory.
As for playing games from the drive.. I'm not interested so I haven't looked, but I think it will be more likely to be from a directory of files, seeing as sony are well aware of the use of image files on the ps2 and have probably taken steps to use disk verification by media location built into the hardware.
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thon0925
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2. March 2007 @ 13:01 |
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I did some research and found that your supose to format the drive with ext3. It supports a single file that is allmost 2 terabytes.
You can do this by using the disk formater in linux.
more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
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2. March 2007 @ 17:58 |
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It's good someone came out with an easy and cheap way to hook any sata/ide hdd external. I hope the ps3 will find it w/out linux and I hope it doesn't have to be reformatted. I have an hdd with so much stuff I want to get off of it.
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8. March 2007 @ 19:56 |
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Has anyone here used the linux on the PS3 with an external HDD as a method of backing up blueray DVD's onto the HDD, and then bringing them to your computer and playing them to your computer display if you don't have a blueray reader/writer on your computer? I'm assuming there is a version of WinDVD/PowerDVD that will read an image on your drive of a blueray DVD, much like you could read a backup of a regular DVD straight from HDD.
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10. March 2007 @ 15:42 |
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I've backed up and downloaded some iso's onto my external hdd. Now I am just waiting here is a quote from the nfo file of Motor Storm from paradox
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| Hmzzz i think we have news to give do we? Ever wondered why the PS3 |
| is such a better machine than a xbox360? simply because they |
| implement too much stuff in one time! "SCEI" dont do that, you |
| need to learn a bit more from Microsoft on this part even when |
| they have forgotten a hypervision hack on kernel 4532 and 4548 |
| they fixed it very fast! And what do we see on the PS3? Up until |
| firmware 1.51 we still see holes! Why? You guys dont have the |
| right persons to work with or is it just the pressure from |
| the big boss? So for now dont update higher than |
| 1.51 since 1.54 hasnt yet been tested, and 1.51 had a few tiny |
| things fixed, but it didnt stop us much :-D Ohhh btw ever |
| wondered if those updates are required on a disc? Actually all |
| games up to now work without any update At least work fine on |
| 1.32 :-) Thats all for now! So seeya tiff tiff and bye bye |
In fact I think we would be fooling our selves if we have a community this large, and did not realize that there are some enemies present.
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thon0925
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10. March 2007 @ 20:04 |
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13. March 2007 @ 12:33 |
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I wonder if we will see another release this week for College Hoop 2k7. Things will definitetly start to heat up next week with all the releases coming out, and the EUR launch on the 23rd. New games coming out alone next week on the 20th are Armored Core 4, Oblivion, The Godfather, Virtua Tennis 3, and the Double Agent on the 27th. Something has got to happen then. I can just feel this a week or two away!
In fact I think we would be fooling our selves if we have a community this large, and did not realize that there are some enemies present.
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thon0925
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13. March 2007 @ 13:06 |
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The easiest way to play backups would probably find out how to convert the ISO's to the PKG files used in PS3 demos. All you would have to do is find out how PKG files are coded and convert ISO to PKG. However Sony might have seen this coming and limited the size of the PKG files to a certain number and XMB will not start it if it's above that number, but someone could probably make the PKG file appear to be smaller than it actully is. Than you can use the connector I showed you in the last post to connect huge hard drives. (Just a theroy)
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16. March 2007 @ 06:49 |
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Above^^^ That's what I was exactly thinking to. Just get the iso files to that, and they should just come up. IDk if they do have a limit on package file. I remember they said they were going to keep it at 500mb, but there are packages over that like 900mb. I just can't wait to see how it's done!
In fact I think we would be fooling our selves if we have a community this large, and did not realize that there are some enemies present.
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