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The Nero Burning ROM in Nero8 doesn't work with Shrink.
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18. April 2008 @ 01:23 |
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ask files is a new one to me too
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jagman55
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24. April 2008 @ 03:51 |
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I got an inquiry about using IMGBURN with DVDShrink and they are having problems.
This all came from Pacman777 but am re-wording it.
To get DVDShrink to use IMGBURN, instead of Nero 8, here is another version of instructions.
If you are still having problems,
go to: http://www.imgburn.com/ OR look for it on this forum.
INSTALL IT
you need to download the ZIP file from: http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/DVD_Shrink_3_2_b_w_IB.zip
Unzip and inside there is a
1. Instruction text file
2. dvdshrink32setup.exe YOU need to INSTALL now.
3. a folder containing: DVD_Shrink_w ImgBrun Feature.
4. Inside is a file DVD Shrink 3.2.exe
This is the special EXE of DVD Shrink that will LOOK for IMGBURN INSTEAD of NERO.
Copy and overwrite in the C:\Program Files\DVD Shrink folder. and REPLACE.
That is it. EXE you just copied and replaced, will look for IMGBURN instead of NERO.
Hope this helps.
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24. April 2008 @ 04:07 |
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it should look like this if you load it right ,it will have a nero as an option along with imgburn but not dvd decrypter
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PacMan777
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24. April 2008 @ 09:52 |
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What time of night did you write that? ;) The picture shows Nero listed. You still have the Nero option. Nero 5 through 7 still works the way they're supposed to. What you no longer have is DVD Decrypter as a supported burner.
The new Shrink exe looks for ImgBurn (upgraded DVD Decrypter software by same authour, LUK) instead of DVD Decrypter. The only relation to Nero 8 is that Shrink can't use it correctly (the new Shrink exe or the one it replaced). Somehow the Burning ROM function of Nero 8 is called up incorrectly by Shrink. Whether intentional or not, Nero changed something in their program that makes it incompatible with Shrink as a supported burner. That doesn't stop Nero 8 from still being a good burner for use with Shrink output. The differece is that the files need to be saved to the hard drive and manually burned from there using Nero 8. Just takes a bit more user input.
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24. April 2008 @ 13:17 |
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Zoso
What time of night did you write that?
lol Pacman77 it was late i got up and let the dog in and didn't finish my post so i edited it thanks
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25. April 2008 @ 02:34 |
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LOL I almost asked what you were smoking; but that would have been too personal. LOL Don't feel alone, I get groggy and make some serious errors myself. Grog being the operative word. LOL
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25. April 2008 @ 03:02 |
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lol i totally forget i even hit reply after letting the dog in. thats what happens when your posting at 3 or 4 in the morning i guess lol
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16. May 2008 @ 06:10 |
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Slightly off topic, but it seems the developer of DVD Srink is working on a new project and looking for feedback at Doom9.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137425
The Nero 8 bug is not related to Shrink.
If have any other known bugs or issues with Shrink please report them.
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PacMan777
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18. May 2008 @ 23:03 |
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Originally posted by wolfmanz:
Slightly off topic, but it seems the developer of DVD Srink is working on a new project and looking for feedback at Doom9.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137425
The Nero 8 bug is not related to Shrink.
If have any other known bugs or issues with Shrink please report them.
What bug? Nero 8 simply isn't supported by Shrink, whether intentional or accidental on the part of Nero. I contacted Nero and their response is they don't support Shrink. Shrink's author stopped support well before Nero 8 was available. So it seems Nero and Shrink have parted ways. It's said Shrink's author is employed by Nero, so the move may have been intentional to disassociate the programs. After all, Nero has Recode which is a clone of DVD Shrink.
Dvdshrink is still saying no new Shrink updates. I suspect the reason being copyright infringement. The new project, whatever it is, appears to have nothing to do with Shrink. Don't you love it when they say "new project" and don't tell what it is.
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18. May 2008 @ 23:37 |
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@PacMan777
wolfmanz is referring to the post DVD Shrink made a doom9 - where he's asking for feedback and problems w/ Shrink - not just w/ Nero.
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PacMan777
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18. May 2008 @ 23:56 |
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I know. I saw the posts at Doom 9. They discussed mostly newer DVD protection schemes and a some of the internal flaws with Shrink. Nothing that would bother the average user. I wonder where dvdshrink has been the past few years that he didn't know about ARccOS and the other copy protection programs?
It should be apparent that Nero not supporting Shrink with the Burning ROM in Nero 8 is intentional. They had to rewrite internal code so the programs in Nero could call up the Burning ROM. Easy enough to do, but it puts older programs that lost support at a loss to call up the new version. Anyone think a business wouldn't take an easy way to remove a little bit of competition? Nero's Recode and Shrink are so similar they have to share some of the same programing code, whether borrowed or the same author involved in developing both. It's amazing that about the same time the last Shrink was introduced with the Quality controls that the same were introduced in Nero's Recode. Plus there was a handy little tool available to change Quality settings for Recode instead of having to change settings manually in the program files. That program offered the same controls for Recode as did the manual settings, similar to Shrink. Coincidence?
I'm wondering if the new project has something to do with Recode.
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19. May 2008 @ 18:28 |
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That program offered the same controls for Recode as did the manual settings, similar to Shrink. Coincidence?
Not a coincidence :)
DVD Shrink's new project may having something to do with Recode but I think that is doubtful since Shrink was asking about copy protection. I can't image Nero would never really associate Recode with having anything to do with removing copy protection.
Back in the day when they weren't as large as they are now my guess is the association w/ Shrink helped them.
Today though with Germany's copy protection laws and their growth it doesn't surprise me that this association has been severed.
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19. May 2008 @ 20:51 |
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It's good to know that Nero 6.0 Ultra installed on my new XP pc and was easily upgraded to 6.6.0.18.I'll never updatre that wonderful software. Cut off is end of June for sale of new XP loaded pcs.
However canon was not so nice in zoom browser upgrade for camera. Drats!
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vze2mp9g
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1. June 2008 @ 20:17 |
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Has NERO been aware of this problem and are they going to correct this problem. I actually purchased Nero 8 for the new features and I don't like to go back to Nero 7.
I PURCHASE DVDShrink because I was under the impression that it worked with Nero 8. Can I get a refund for DVDShrink? The FREE version works flawlessly.
Thank You.
Originally posted by PacMan777:
Originally posted by solo61:
just check setting and when ask click nero or right click and pick nero
A bit confusing.
What we were talking about is using the Nero burning rom as the supported burner in Shrink. Nero 6 and 7 work. There's something flawed when using Nero 8 in that situation. Manually burning Shrink output with Express will work. But what most people prefer is the automatic burn feature with Shrink activating the burning rom automatically.
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PacMan777
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2. June 2008 @ 02:57 |
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No problem and no bug. Nero 8 simply doesn't work with DVD Shrink.
According to Nero there is no problem with Nero 8. Nero doesn't support Shrink and Shrink lost support before Nero 8 was introduced. It's as though the two programs, Nero 8 and DVD Shrink, have nothing to do with each other. Nero 7 was the last version to work as a supported burner with DVD Shrink. You can still save Shrink output to the hard drive and burn manually.
If you purchased DVD Shrink, ask for a refund. It's always been free. Anyone selling DVD Shrink is ripping people off.
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jagman55
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3. June 2008 @ 14:20 |
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I rarely have a problem with Shrink/imgburn but do you know of any other program that "shrinks" a DVD? DVDFab just splits doesn't it?
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4. June 2008 @ 01:48 |
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4. June 2008 @ 18:20 |
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JohnTango
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6. July 2008 @ 05:27 |
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Originally posted by vze2mp9g:
Has NERO been aware of this problem and are they going to correct this problem. I actually purchased Nero 8 for the new features and I don't like to go back to Nero 7.
I PURCHASE DVDShrink because I was under the impression that it worked with Nero 8. Can I get a refund for DVDShrink? The FREE version works flawlessly.
Thank You.
Originally posted by PacMan777:
Originally posted by solo61:
just check setting and when ask click nero or right click and pick nero
A bit confusing.
What we were talking about is using the Nero burning rom as the supported burner in Shrink. Nero 6 and 7 work. There's something flawed when using Nero 8 in that situation. Manually burning Shrink output with Express will work. But what most people prefer is the automatic burn feature with Shrink activating the burning rom automatically.
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PacMan777
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23. July 2008 @ 02:00 |
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JohnTango,
Was there a question or was that a comment? ;)
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JohnTango
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23. July 2008 @ 04:11 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
JohnTango,
Was there a question or was that a comment? ;)
Its funny really..As I never wrote the things in the box above at all..The things I wrote regarding Nero 8 and shrink were completely different..where has it dissapeard to??? perhaps this Forum software isnt working now..lol..Anyway Shrink and Nero "7" work great..burning manually takes 5 times longer...:-)
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PacMan777
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24. July 2008 @ 08:31 |
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It's been mentioned that Shrink was originally written with the Nero Burning Rom as a supported burner along with DVD Decrypter and CopyToDVD. Nero 5, 6, and 7 work. Nero changed Nero 8 in how the software opens the Burning Rom. Shrink as we know has long since lost support, so no updates to correct for Nero's program change in 8. Nero isn't responsible for supporting Shrink, so they aren't. End of story.
5 times longer to burn a DVD manually? That's strange. The software takes about 10 minutes to do a burn at 6X. Does that mean 50 minutes if I do it manually? I suspect a bit of hyperbole here. LOL I can open a file in Express and start the burn in a minute or so. I don't see why Nero owners aren't using Recode anyway. Recode is basically the same program as Shrink.
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24. July 2008 @ 16:42 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
It's been mentioned that Shrink was originally written with the Nero Burning Rom as a supported burner along with DVD Decrypter and CopyToDVD. Nero 5, 6, and 7 work. Nero changed Nero 8 in how the software opens the Burning Rom. Shrink as we know has long since lost support, so no updates to correct for Nero's program change in 8. Nero isn't responsible for supporting Shrink, so they aren't. End of story.
5 times longer to burn a DVD manually? That's strange. The software takes about 10 minutes to do a burn at 6X. Does that mean 50 minutes if I do it manually? I suspect a bit of hyperbole here. LOL I can open a file in Express and start the burn in a minute or so. I don't see why Nero owners aren't using Recode anyway. Recode is basically the same program as Shrink.
Well I must be doing it wrong then because when I use shrink it takes about 10 minutes to burn the disc after the encoding.....but If I open up the "shrunk" files with nero from the appropriatre location it goes through all of the recoding and recreatesan image and can take in some instances over an hour to do this process including the burning...So I dont know what I am doing wrong then..but I am not Hyping things up>>:-)
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PacMan777
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24. July 2008 @ 17:31 |
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The primary purpose for Shrink is to transcode DVD files to fit the target disc. Transcoding and burning (whether manual or with a supported burner) is going to take longer than just the burning process by itself. For instance if you're doing a video of about 7GB, it has to be transcoded and then burned. Usually you end up doing at least the 3 basic steps if using a DVD5 as the target. Decrypt and bypass copy protection, transcode, and burn are those steps. Whether the burner is supported or not you have to do the copy protection and transcoding. If you do the first 2 steps and then burn with a supported burner you'll save a minute or so because Shrink will open the burner for you in seconds. Since Nero 8 isn't supported, those wanting to use it with Shrink have to burn manually. That doesn't change the amount of time it takes to do the first steps. The difference is the user has to save the transcoded files to the HDD. If you use the same burning speed, the burn speed doesn't change. That's a set function taking the same time when using the same speed. The only variation in time is how long it takes the user to open the burning program to start the burn. How long does that take? That should be the only variable that changes the time between doing the backup with a supported burner or doing the job manually. If it takes an excessive amount of time over the time to do the task with a supported burner, then something is going wrong or being done wrong.
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Well I must be doing it wrong then because when I use shrink it takes about 10 minutes to burn the disc after the encoding.....but If I open up the "shrunk" files with nero from the appropriatre location it goes through all of the recoding and recreatesan image and can take in some instances over an hour to do this process including the burning...So I dont know what I am doing wrong then..but I am not Hyping things up>>:-)
From what you say, your nero software is doing more than just burning, "all of the recoding and recreatesan image..." Which Nero program are you using? The Shrink files should already be prepped for the burn when saved to the HDD; so burning is all you should be doing manually using Express or the Burning ROM.
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24. July 2008 @ 17:44 |
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What application in Nero are you opening to burn the Shrink shrunk files? Just open the files in Nero burning Rom and burn them and as pacman stated the burn time will be the same.
And also as paccy said why the hell aren't you using NeroRecode and ditch shrink. It becomes a one click operation like Shrink used to be. JM2C
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