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Shoot Em Up + 3:10 to Yuma
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bigwop
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19. January 2008 @ 19:17 |
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I was so ugly when I was a kid, my parents used to take me everywhere just so they wouldn't have to kiss me goodbye.
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PacMan777
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20. January 2008 @ 04:30 |
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Movie only has been the recommended method (at least to make things easier) when dealing with problematic copy protection. Some of us like the challenge of being able to do the complete copy though.
First thing I do is check a DVD using RI4M. Open in 1-click and if it says skip to shrink, I close and rip to the HDD with DVD Decrypter. For Shrink users, simply jump to Shrink. If the program needs processing with RI4M and RI4M opens properly, just continue with it for processing. The program does a good job if it can handle the copy protection on the video.
If RI4M fails, I then give DVDFab a try. Most often that's the solution. For whatever reason, I've noted some scenes having the bitrate altered noticably when using DVDFab for ripping, so I use DVDD whenever possible. When DVDD works, it still seems to supply a cleaner source. Normally DVDFab does the compliance processing during the rip. For when it doesn't, there's FixVTS.
Another old standby is using AnyDVD + DVDD (with CSS cracking off and check for structural protection unchecked). I've found most often that works better than the AnyDVD ripper (which now incorporates CloneDVD2).
The reason I like getting files on the hard drive is twofold. I use an encoder and need a source file on the hard drive for faster transfer speeds. Second, I have the files where I can work with them and make corrections if necessary; i.e. processing with FixVTS for compliance errors, or simply removing brackets from titles if they're left after decryption, as in the case of 3:10 To Yuma.
Shoot Em Up was probably the most difficult of the bunch I recently backed up (3:10 to Yuma, Shoot Em Up, Rush Hour 3, and War), but DVDFab handled it with ease. I processed Shoot Em Up and Rush Hour 3 with DVDFab (it was the only program to do Full DVD on these with ease) and 3:10 To Yuma and War using AnyDVD + DVDD + FixVTS. The reason I don't mention transcoding and burning software much is that with a good cleaned set of files for the source, any program worth having on a PC should be able to handle transcoding and burning.
My preferences lie with RB/CCE for encoding, DVDCopy for transcoding, and Nero or ImgBurn for burning. Those paying attention can see there's a free component for many of my favorites. There's free RB, ImgBurn, DVDFab, DVD Decrypter, Shrink. So, a person can transcode and encode without a big "Euro" crunch on the wallet (slysoft).
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robchro
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20. January 2008 @ 22:22 |
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Hi!
If you're referring to using RipIt4me, do the following:
1) Make sure your target directory does NOT include the brackets in the name, as does the original DVD (<3:10 to Yuma>)
2) SKIP Step 3B and SKIP FixVTS (Or the equivalent step in later versions of RipIt4Me)
3) I'm guessing the DVDs are poorly mastered - because you REALLY have to be patient while A) the IFOs are first read and B) the PSL file is being created.
Other than that, it was smooth sailing (I used RipIt4Me v.1.6.4)
Use this method i got it on the first try on a single layer dvd-r.
Hope this helps
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PacMan777
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21. January 2008 @ 09:19 |
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Anyone using RipIt4Me should be using version 1.7.1.0. DVDs with high bogus file counts can beat the older RI4M versions. Talladega Nights was one of the first to show up with that type protection and some since have upped the count. FixVTS was upgraded to account for that and 1.7.1.0 incorporated the updated FixVTS. No need for the standalone FixVTS version anymore. As for the brackets, the 1-Click mode is the method I use most often and for some reason it will often work when Wizard won't. So far I've only run into one release I had to do with Wizard mode. When RI4M 1.7.1.0 gets through processing and you get a good analysis in Shrink, you know you're going to get a good backup. As I mentioned though, there are releases that RI4M simply can't open and some it errors out on during processing. That's what comes from lost support. In those cases go with DVDFab for decryption or use DVDFab to start with.
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greenpaw
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21. January 2008 @ 23:02 |
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Thought I was ok (after 3 tries) I got Shoot'em up , full DL backup and it plays on my normal DVD players, but on my PS3 it freezes a couple times late in the movie and it won't play further. Grrrrrr
I'm gonna do just the movie on a dvd5 and see if that works.
So frustrating. I thought the Ps3 was the last one I had to worry about and it's the ONLY one giving me trouble.
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22. January 2008 @ 00:55 |
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my bet its the DL media isn't compatible with the ps3
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PacMan777
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22. January 2008 @ 05:26 |
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I still can't see why people use PS3s to play DVDs. The PS3 isn't exactly cheap and the use for playing DVDs shortens the lifespan of the equipment. Even if only by a small increment, each DVD played adds up. Players can be had for about $30 to $40 for a decent one. Go figure. ;)
I'd say ZoSo is right. If the DVD copies are playing in all the standalone players, that shows a good job was done on the backup as far as removing the copy protection and getting the video burned. As mentioned, it looks like a compatibility issue with only the PS3 not playing the copy.
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greenpaw
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22. January 2008 @ 09:33 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
I still can't see why people use PS3s to play DVDs. The PS3 isn't exactly cheap and the use for playing DVDs shortens the lifespan of the equipment. Even if only by a small increment, each DVD played adds up. Players can be had for about $30 to $40 for a decent one. Go figure. ;)
I'd say ZoSo is right. If the DVD copies are playing in all the standalone players, that shows a good job was done on the backup as far as removing the copy protection and getting the video burned. As mentioned, it looks like a compatibility issue with only the PS3 not playing the copy.
I got the PS3 because it was bundled with my Sony Bravia LCD for a great price. I think it was about $100 or so cheaper than a standalone Bluray player. I only have it for playing movies. I have just 2 games (baseball and Guitar Hero3 :) )
Just the day before, I watched "Good Luck Chuck" on the exact same blank DL media (which is Imation) and it played perfectly on the PS3, so I have no idea. I just ran the latest update on the PS3, so I'll try it one more time.
I made a DVD5 of Shoot em Up movie only and it worked, so it's not a total loss.
If the PS3 ever dies, I won't replace it, I rarely play games, and Bluray players are comin down in price, so by the time I need one, it will be affordable.
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rosyhf
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24. January 2008 @ 16:33 |
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Hi, I just ripped it with "anydvd" and then opened shrink. It went as smooth as butta lol.
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24. January 2008 @ 16:46 |
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Just the day before, I watched "Good Luck Chuck" on the exact same blank DL media (which is Imation) and it played perfectly on the PS3, so I have no idea.
With that crappy media is most likely the disc. Just because one or two worked doesn't mean they all are gonna work. For DL discs, the only choice should be Verbatim.
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25. January 2008 @ 08:44 |
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Originally posted by dialysis1:
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Just the day before, I watched "Good Luck Chuck" on the exact same blank DL media (which is Imation) and it played perfectly on the PS3, so I have no idea.
With that crappy media is most likely the disc. Just because one or two worked doesn't mean they all are gonna work. For DL discs, the only choice should be Verbatim.
agreed
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25. January 2008 @ 14:01 |
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Yeah Imation is CRAP. Verbatim is definitely the way to go. I haven't used an Imation DVD ever. I think the last Imation disc I used was a cd-r in 2001 or 2002.
I know that Imation is a little cheaper, but words of advice... you get what you pay for. ; )
Hope that helps!
Cheers!
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PacMan777
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25. January 2008 @ 16:09 |
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Imation does like other brands and bid out different lots to different manufacturers. Memorex wasn't always memosux. I'll have to say it's not as safe buying media from brands that use different suppliers and not all of them good quality. In the past I used to get Ricohjpn media when I purchased Imation. I got the same with Memorex. I was looking for some dodgy media and thought I'd pick up some Memorex as a test. My bad, it turned out to be Ricoh (the good stuff). What I'm getting at is you can't call a DVD bad just by brand name. You need to run a check to see where it was manufactured. Try using DVD Identifier and let us know who manufactured the questionable disc.
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suprasex9
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25. January 2008 @ 20:24 |
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I used DVDFAB HD Decrypter 4 to copy the movie to a file and then used DVDFAB Platinum 4 to burn, works fine on 3:10 to yuma, shoot em up and boogieman 2. Full DVD. For some reason the platinum wasen't working on these movies. I have the paid updated versions.
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TRAVELMGR
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26. January 2008 @ 05:03 |
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Hello all. Before asking for more help, I read a number of this forum threads and various links and came away feeling like a T-ball hitter looking at a major league pitch coming across the plate. As a RI4M user I hit the wall with Shoot 'em Up and Rush 3. No prob with 3:10 to Yuma. Having been a happy DVDDC/Shrink/Nero user in previous years, RI4M(using ImgBurn)proved to make me even happier, albeit, spoiled to a simplicity. It was also cost effective...free. As my daddy used to say, there is price to pay for everything. Although HiDef is not a current concern(I now have a 1080p LCD HDTV),eventually I want to prepare for further changes from Sony and possibily [the] others, and also be prepared complete the transition to HD. Is DvdFabHDDecrypter 4.0.5.5 the same one mentioned in iluvendo's 2Jan2008. Although I like to "peak and tweak" and fiddle with things, what will can I use that won't cost me any more time, pre-RI4M? Will I get the best bang for my buck if I have to go for the Platinum version over DVDFHDD? Will DVDRebuilder have to be used with either or both versions. Will I be using DVDFHDD in place of DVDDC, and while continuing to use Shrink and IMGBurn? Is the info on shutting off Auto Start still current and valid? Whatever input/direction you can give me will also be forwarded to a RI4M user who does not have current on line access. My apologies for the length and many thanks for any help you can give.
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26. January 2008 @ 09:31 |
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If you're preparing to go into HD burns in the future, then buy the programs DVD Fab(Edit:-Platinum), AnyDVD and CloneDVD. Money must not be a problem cause those blank HD discs and the HD burner are gonna cost you a fortune anyway! If they ever decide who wins. You can do any movie with the 3 above paid for and the other free programs.LOL
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PacMan777
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26. January 2008 @ 12:24 |
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For those ripping with DVDFab HD and then using DVDFab Platinum, I have one question. Why? DVDFab HD consists of part of the decryption program included in the retail DVDFab Platinum. In other words you have the full function version of the decryption program included in Platinum (DVDFab HD only rips Full DVD or Main Movie). Notice DVDFab HD gets updated the same time as the Platinum. If you own DVDFab Platinum, there's no need for DVDFab HD. If anyone wants a complete one click program, DVDFab Platinum is the best going.
TRAVELMGR
It looks like it will still be a while before you need the HD software. Current cost of recordable media is close to the cost of a new DVD. It's just as economical to buy 2 copies of a movie as one and try to back it up. Besides the high cost media (think what one coaster would cost) there is the astronomical costs for hardware. Until the prices come down for both media and drives, HD is the last thing on my "to get" list. Just think, most of us are still complaining about the high cost of DL media. LOL Currently the 2 highest profile programs addressing HD come from DVDIdle and Slysoft. I've already got the DVDFab Platinum and AnyDVD, so I'll wait to see what the future brings without rushing out to buy more software.
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26. January 2008 @ 12:43 |
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PacMan777,
Notice DVDFab HD gets updated the same time as the Platinum. If you own DVDFab Platinum, there's no need for DVDFab HD.
That's if DVDFab platinum isn't ill-gotten :). DVDFab HD Decrypter has regular updates; DVDFab Platinum, on the other hand, if acquired illegally cannot be updated.
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26. January 2008 @ 13:46 |
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@pryme_H
And that's the way it should be. If some people weren't paying for these inexpensive programs then the ones using them illegally would not have them either.
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26. January 2008 @ 14:14 |
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I concur! There are lots of members here seeking help about faulty programs. And of course, there'll be no way of validating if the program was acquired legally or otherwise. Unless, the beans are spilled by the original poster.
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26. January 2008 @ 14:21 |
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lol guys sometimes i feel like were helping people to become a better pirate !
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timmybear
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26. January 2008 @ 14:23 |
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Originally posted by PacMan777:
DVD Shrink should be able to do the transcoding (shrinking) job with the Quality Settings checked. I use DVD Rebuilder for the big movies.
As for difficulty, 3:10 to Yuma wasn't very. I didn't see anything new as far as copy protection goes. Lionsgate used brackets around the movie title to cause a structural error for the recording software. The copy protection hinged on structural errors and bad sector protection. That's why AnyDVD had problems making on the fly corrections. After ripping, remove the brackets and run the decrypted files through FixVTS to process for structural errors and the movie starts up and plays as it's supposed to. All the major decryption programs, including RI4M, can get this one done in Full DVD or Movie Only. I used RI4M in 1-Click mode and it got a good Full DVD rip. For this one I ripped the files in Full DVD, processed with FixVTS, encoded with RB/CCE, and burned with Nero Express.
im only able to burn 3:10, Shoot, Saw 4, Good Luck Chuck, etc. with DVD FAB HD and it only burns in DVD 9 format which results the movie being 73-7900 MB. too large for a dvd. Ive tried compressing it with DVD Shrink, i've used RI4M but always get constant errors, i've tried DVD FAB Platinum but it won't even finish analyzing the dvd without constant errors, i tried all programs with AnyDVD running in the background, and without. it just doesnt work. Saw 4 doesn't backup at all, i can't get any program to even analyze the dvd, the closest was RI4M but after it loaded the dvd in 1-click mode, when i click continue it just locks up and crashes. i'll edit this post later with all the logs.
So far Fab HD works on most of them, just as i said tho it only works in DVD 9 so i need a ripper that either can normal rip the files or a tool to compress them to fit on a single DVD.
if anyone could just list a bunch of programs with links to how to use them i would be grateful. sorry if anyone has already listed them in various posts, but theres alot of people here just yelling nonsense sometimes and too many posts to read ha.
(btw, i just read a post that said Fab Plat and FAB HD were the same program. ha i didnt know. i only have a trial of Fab Plat but so far it hasn't pursuaded me to purchase the complete thing. are there more features when you buy it?)
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26. January 2008 @ 14:36 |
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PacMan777
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26. January 2008 @ 16:54 |
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timmybear
Ripper decryption programs are made to rip in DVD9 format intentionally so there won't be compression. Once you get the files cleaned up, there are a lot of programs to shrink the files to fit a DVD5. As long as your compilation is compliant, any of a number of programs will burn the DVD for you. You can choose freeware or indulge in some of the retail programs. If you want free, DVDFab HD Decrypter to clean up the decryption and copy protection, DVD Shrink to transcode (shrink to DVD5), and ImgBurn to burn the output. You're not going to do a lot better with the retail apps. Some may have an easier interface and be faster, but the end product won't be noticably better, if you use the software correctly. That's for transcoders. Encoders are better, especially for high compression copies.
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Garmoon is right and I'm not going to try to help anyone be a better pirate. Legal copies of Platinum get their updates the same time DVDFab HD is updated. The software for HD is derived from Platinum was the point I was trying to make. That's why the freebie is updated the same time as the retail making for great support for a freeware program. Anyone that's gotten used to HD has an insight into what a bargain Platinum is with the all inclusive program. I suspect that's why DVDIdle gives DVDFab HD away, to get prospective customers interested in the retail version. They got my attention. ;)
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crz4mov
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27. January 2008 @ 02:01 |
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Hi,
I hope someone can help me. I used the guide provided by 'bbmayo' and followed the steps as suggested. For some reason when I click the backup icon in DVD shrink after following all the steps in the guide, I get this message.
"DVD shrink encountered an error and cannot continue
Out of memory
Not enough storage is available to process this command"
I tried 3 times with the same error. I am pretty sure I am missing some setting etc. My OS is Vista :( with 160GB HD & 3GB of RAM available and no other program was running at the time.
I downloaded all the softwares within the last week. (Yes I am a newbie & promise not to bug you guys too much)
I followed these steps in order => DVD Decrypter + fixvts + dvd shrink + imgburn (have not had a chance to use it yet).
Thanks for any help in advance....
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