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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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17. October 2012 @ 18:44 |
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For all we know, there's a technology right under their noses. Which could advance hard drives well beyond the current trend :p I certainly hope so ;) Storing Blu-ray movies, especially 3D ones is impractical, even with 4Tb. A 50Tb drive might just be what the doctor ordered :D Though I'd still like a 1Pb drive :p I won't hold my breath though...
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17. October 2012 @ 18:56 |
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I wouldn't say it's impractical, but it will certainly take several disks if your film collection is big and you're not ripping the files to save space. A 4TB drive will fit about 80-90 raw bluray discs worth of content. Not bad for a single disk if you have a server full of drives.
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17. October 2012 @ 20:15 |
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Well I like the drive that you looked at, Steve - just a few seconds to move 2 gigs of data!! WOW!!!
Good for you Sam to apply some scientific method to my random pie in the sky prediction. I vote for your conclusion, yielding maybe a 15-18 TB drive by end of 2019.
Jeff, Wargames somehow reminds me of the complexity of Arma. I applaud the unquestionably ultra-high level of patience that allowed you to dive in and figure out the game. While some reviewers didn't like the game, the majority of them were very impressed.
BUT ARE WE ACTUALLY SAYING THERE IS NO TRAINING AT ALL??????
Kevin will ask, "Why are you shouting, Rich?" Read it again, Kev - NO TRAINING!!!
I believe it is a bad move, marketing-wise, in fact I believe it is UNFRIENDLY, to spend a lot of money making a game and not allocate enough funds to polish it up to the point of including some way to teach the game to the uninitiated. Even the formidable and complicated Arma had training.
(On Arma, I couldn't get through the helicopter training successfully - flying through all those circles down that valley within the tight time limit - I literally pulled an all-nighter. Maybe my old mouse and pad were to blame - this was before my significant upgrade to an Ikari laser and matching steelseries pad. So I skipped the rest of the training and decided to dive right into the game. I was immediately aghast that the giant, almost conically-shaped butt of my rifle seemed to take up more than 40% of the screen. That was it. I decided that Arma and I were not made for each other. :P)
Both Company of Heroes and World in Conflict had 1. glorious graphics, 2. a nice story, and 3. training. I very much appreciate the tip about trying out the title, Jeff. Because of you I have enjoyed a lot of games I would never have known about - like Metro and like the two Operation Flashpoint titles. But I think I'll pass on this one, unless I am mistaken and you let me know that there indeed IS a training level buried somewhere in the game-start command center interface. LOL
On another note, I finished Episode 4 of Walking Dead - only one more to go - they'll probably conclude it in a few weeks for a Steam download by the end of this month. Those of you who are not high on shooters, or for that matter any video games at all beyond the amusing Angry Birds, might want to check this one out. Virtually all the reviews are VERY positive.
It is a deeply riveting, unforgettable experience, which is also what I think of the TV show. Here's the video walk-through, which has helped me several times when I was stuck. A little viewing of it will give you some flavor of the gameplay.
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17. October 2012 @ 23:55 |
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I guess I could see owning multiple 4Tb drives. Once they're reliable! I won't be the guinea pig on this one :p
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17. October 2012 @ 23:59 |
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no? bummer!!!!!
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18. October 2012 @ 00:26 |
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A rich guy like you Kevin should take the chance so that we all know whether to take the leap too. LOL..... :D
Now that Sam got that super nice server case I know now that I will be taking that jump as well, probably next summer if all goes well.
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18. October 2012 @ 21:15 |
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You guys and your jumps and leaps to quote Steve above, somehow reminds me of the guy yesterday who jumped on my head TWICE as I guarded the bomb in the bank vault from the counter terrorists, in Demolition, the version of Counter Strike: Global Offensive that Sam told me about. You were right Sam - it's a lot of fun.
If anybody reading this is planning to build a rig to include some light gaming, you might try CS:GO only $14.99 at Steam, or Walking Dead (see a couple posts back) only $24.99 at Steam, both very light on graphics card requirements, and both a lot of value for the money.
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18. October 2012 @ 21:43 |
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I have a friend that just got Walking Dead 5, he likes it but it has caused him some problems too.
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19. October 2012 @ 09:10 |
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Oman7,
Check out this Intel SSD! $235 w/free shipping
Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSDSC2CW240A310 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...me=Internal-SSD
It's just under $1 per GB, and a very fast SSD. Probably the best bang for the buck that Intel offers in an SSD, at the moment.
Best Regards,
Russ
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19. October 2012 @ 10:57 |
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I'll have to admit SSDs are starting to get tempting. Definitely one upgrade I could make without hesitation.
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19. October 2012 @ 11:01 |
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My over all PC experience has changed since the SSD install. EVERYTHING just seems smoother. Flash based stuff is still a pain in my backside though... :p
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19. October 2012 @ 12:46 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
I'll have to admit SSDs are starting to get tempting. Definitely one upgrade I could make without hesitation.
Estuansis,
What attracted me to the Intel was this:
"The new Intel SSD 520 Series offers the best security features of any Intel SSD to date and comes preconfigured with Intel Advanced Encryption Standard New Instructions (Intel AES-NI) 256-bit encryption capabilities. In the event of theft or loss of your computer, you have the peace of mind that your personal data is secured by an advanced encryption technology. Additionally, the Intel SSD 520 Series contains ?End-to-End Data Protection? ensuring integrity of stored data from the computer to the SSD and back."
The 5 year warranty for an OEM, even though they level the playing field a little for the OEMs, is still outstanding. 240GB in a $235 package of that caliber, is an outstanding buy!
Oman7,
Smoothness has been a given for me for so long now I don't even think about it anymore. I just accept that the AMD is an incredibly smooth running machine, almost bordering on "Slick"! The SSD enhanced that even further!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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19. October 2012 @ 13:07 |
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Would easily jump on that deal but my holdback is money for the time being. I already have plans for a new PSU and eventually a 1090T. A lot of it will have to wait until I start bringing home real paychecks again at the end of November.
Also have an ongoing project for my side panel with an inward blowing fan. Plexi panel has been removed and the new side panel is in the fab process right now. Really the only reason it's not done is that I haven't bothered to go get the machine screws and bolts to attach it yet. Until then it sits unpainted :P
In the mean time I have been gifted one of these with some stripper clips in exchange for helping a family friend move.
http://amendment2guns.com/images/DSC05562.JPG
Very simple gun firing the same rounds as an AK but somewhat more refined and using different internals. Mine is a Chinese Type 56 identical to that pic and is actually very good quality. Got it in un-circulated condition as it was bought in a crate with 11 other rifles. Had to clean the cosmoline off it before I could even use it. Factory new rifles FTW :)
Very nice rifle and accurate enough to justify a mid power scope.
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19. October 2012 @ 14:37 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by Estuansis:
I'll have to admit SSDs are starting to get tempting. Definitely one upgrade I could make without hesitation.
Estuansis,
What attracted me to the Intel was this:
"The new Intel SSD 520 Series offers the best security features of any Intel SSD to date and comes preconfigured with Intel Advanced Encryption Standard New Instructions (Intel AES-NI) 256-bit encryption capabilities. In the event of theft or loss of your computer, you have the peace of mind that your personal data is secured by an advanced encryption technology. Additionally, the Intel SSD 520 Series contains ?End-to-End Data Protection? ensuring integrity of stored data from the computer to the SSD and back."
The 5 year warranty for an OEM, even though they level the playing field a little for the OEMs, is still outstanding. 240GB in a $235 package of that caliber, is an outstanding buy!
Oman7,
Smoothness has been a given for me for so long now I don't even think about it anymore. I just accept that the AMD is an incredibly smooth running machine, almost bordering on "Slick"! The SSD enhanced that even further!
Best Regards,
Russ
Too expensive and I don't need the added encryption. I can get a good SSD in that size cheaper so I would go cheaper.
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19. October 2012 @ 16:54 |
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Having seen a fair few people suffer at the hands of sudden SSD failure, I primarily pick Intel for the reliability. That said, I bought a 60GB Corsair Force3 for the machine I'm taking to the office on the back of how cheap it was, so time will tell how that pans out.
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19. October 2012 @ 17:53 |
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I have several non-Intel SSD's now and have had no issues with any of them. If you treat them with the respect they need regardless of Intel or not you shouldn't have a problem with exception to the normal failure rates that all devices suffer from. I do think Intel makes a higher quality SSD product but not enough to pay a lot more for.
People that have problems are numb nuts that run burn-in tests on them and do other things they are not suppose to do with SSD's, from what I've read in negative comments.
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19. October 2012 @ 17:54 |
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I know of at least three people who used SSDs properly (and I trust their judgement enough to believe them) have them abruptly fail, so I don't think it's that uncommon, and the failure rates bear that through.
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19. October 2012 @ 18:12 |
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Funny because mine have been working well for a loooong time and I know others in the same boat. I'm not seeing it on my end and like I said most everyone that I've read that had problems where attributable to their own screw ups. Your always going to have bad product here or there and I know plenty of people that have got bad HDD's or they went out within a year but again that is part of the normal failure rates typically.
It also helps to optimize your SSD's periodically which I do to keep from having issues. So again with care you should be fine.
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19. October 2012 @ 18:28 |
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Hope my Vertex 4 lasts several years :S My luck with hard drives is upwards of 90% This however is my first SSD :p
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19. October 2012 @ 18:39 |
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93% success rate here so far across all disks, not including environment failures (i.e. where the drive was destroyed rather than failing of its own accord).
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21. October 2012 @ 01:53 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I have a friend that just got Walking Dead 5, he likes it but it has caused him some problems too.
Steve you got me all excited, and I went to Steam to see if they downloaded episode 5 yet - but it still isn't out. That is the only one left which wraps up the season - 5 episodes for the $24.99.
The problems it caused your friend were probably nightmares causing him to fall out of bed - it is VERY riveting. I couldn't get my brother interested even though he loves the TV show because he said he didn't want anything too intense - he was wanting to relax more, lol. So I told him that Kevin had a catalog of relaxing games starting with Angry Birds. :P
The SSDs sound good I must say, although my hard drives are pretty fast, and I don't do the encoding you guys do - I load a game and then I play it. We used to think the SSDs would dramatically reduce level load time until the tests showed it didn't, and then we realized that most of that level load time was the calculating necessary to decompress the textures, rather than the actual data transfer time. Yes W7 would boot up in 5 seconds not 20, but what's an extra 15 seconds, lol.
This is scary:
Originally posted by Sam:
I know of at least three people who used SSDs properly (and I trust their judgement enough to believe them) have them abruptly fail, so I don't think it's that uncommon, and the failure rates bear that through.
That tells me that I would need to clone an SSD to a small hard drive from time to time to keep from being screwed, just to save that 15 seconds of W7 boot time. Again - if I were encoding video like you guys, etc., I'd be singing a different tune.
Man I love Demolition in CS:GO - thanks for the tip Sam. Another 4 hours today. Some very intense matches!! At times I am a veritable Annie Oakley, other times I swear I must have hit that guy 5 times with the shotgun - and why is he still standing??!! There's some strange lagging that goes on - maybe people are hosting games on weak equipment - and it is independent of a player's ping. Occasionally you start shooting him, and the next instant he is 10 feet away like superman. Anyway, mostly it's smooth, so like one player told another yesterday "Stop complaining." LOL
Jeff, that rifle looks nice.
What kind of a clip does it take? I assume it's semi-auto - are you going to turn it into another white tail gun?
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21. October 2012 @ 02:24 |
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Near 100% success rate with hard disks so far(knock on wood). Only had one die out of 20+ to have passed through my possession.
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Jeff, that rifle looks nice.
What kind of a clip does it take? I assume it's semi-auto - are you going to turn it into another white tail gun?
It is called an SKS and was developed alongside the AK-47 as a cheaper alternative for conscript forces. It looks sort of like an AK and uses the same mid-power ammo but is a completely different gun internally. Mine is a Chinese rifle stamped as Type 56 in Chinese characters. Mine in particular was bought in a factory sealed crate then given directly to me. ie I am the only one to have touched it since it left the manufacturing plant in the mid 70s. This fact made me excited, but it also meant hours of cleaning off packing oil(cosmoline) which tends to dry up a bit over time.
The Chinese rifles are also the most reliable and well built of the models commonly available but have soft wood for the stocks so are very easy to mar up. Another fact I like is that it is internally unmolested and uses 100% Chinese parts. It was never intended to fire full-auto and thus needed no modifying at the time it was imported(pre-1986). It also uses very thick machined steel vs the cheap stamped steel of other common models.
It takes 10 round stripper clips, a strip of metal with a rail that holds the shells. You load the gun by hooking the clip into a feed ramp on top and pushing the rounds into the magazine, sliding them off the clip. The clips themselves are cheap stamped steel and meant to be left on the ground where they were dropped, but I keep mine for reusing :P
It loads this way because the magazine is not removable. In this way it's closer to some bolt actions. But no mistake this is a combat rifle and not meant for sporting. The rifle is semi-automatic. It has no sight rails, so it needs modification to mount optics, and it has a rather nasty spike bayonet like the one in the pic.
It uses the right bullets and has enough accuracy to be a decent short-mid range deer gun, but lack other features that would make it more practical for that use. For the foreseeable future, it will remain a "fun gun" for the range and my main self defense rifle for the commie/zombie apocalypse.
It is built like a tank, more reliable than an AK, and because of its loading method, magazine size, and handling capabilities, is great for conserving ammo. I had more fun with 90 rounds on my SKS than with 200+ on the AK. I believe I have posted photos around here with the AK and drum magazine. Great combination, but tends to get hot and easy handling means wasted shots just having fun instead of aiming.
Its only weakness is limited range due to the mid power AK rounds but is a wonderful rifle of historical significance and a blast to use. An SKS has fought in nearly every conflict since they were first built in the early 50s.
On my Xmas list is a tin of 1400 rounds from Fleet Farm for $200 so I may have more fun with it :)
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21. October 2012 @ 02:29 |
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Encoding doesn't make use of my C:\, lest it uses for temp cache, and I'm unaware :S I have 6 other hard drives connected at any given time. There's really no need for my OS drive to aid with encoding. At worst, only 3 drives need be used for an encode process.
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21. October 2012 @ 04:14 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
93% success rate here so far across all disks, not including environment failures (i.e. where the drive was destroyed rather than failing of its own accord).
Sam,
I find 93% to be very accurate, and that's spread over 22 years, and thousands of drives replaced. I suspect that for laptops, the numbers would be about the same.
The hot thing right now is replacing laptop HDDs with an SSD. Some laptops will even let you install a second drive, which makes things a bit easier. I would still strongly recommend removing the second drive until the SSD is fully set up, formatted, and the OS and AV are installed!
BTW, thank you for all the info you have given us on the Intel SSD's. It helped make my choice much easier. Do I think the Intel 330 is a better drive, and worth the extra $23? Yes I do! While a certain "cheap-arse" we know is optomizing his SSD's, it's all done automatically on my Intel and Patriot SSDs! :) I'll be doing a bit more looking between now and Thanksgiving, but you can bet that there will be a lot of first time SSD purchasers this holiday season, and at the best prices of the year to boot!
Best Regards,
Russ
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21. October 2012 @ 08:33 |
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Most of my purchases will be right after Christmas to catch the big sales :)
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