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5. October 2012 @ 10:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
100Tb. 1/10th of a petabyte! I remember in 1995, my mothers Windows 95 machine (133mhz CPU) had a 1.19Gb hard drive. I shutter at such limited space now LOL! And now we have drives that dwarf that capacity :p I think a petabyte drive is looking more and more like a reality. Of course it'll only happen if doomsday doesn't ensue LOL!

It would take roughly 250 4Tb drives to reach 1Pb. :S



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In the early 1980's a 5MB and 10MB drives were huge in size but also large literally at almost 2 feet in diameter but they were removable! Of course then card readers were the thing and vacuum tapes too. I don't think we will see a 100T 2.5in drive soon though as still size is limited for that capacity.

Russ you have changed your story and that's a fact!
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Wow - who knew it could be physically dangerous to work around computer equipment, what with fires, billowing smoke, and explosions! :P
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Televisions are worst, especially CRT types, old tube audio gear as well, new Direct Current cars (hybrids), and then we get into 5KVA+ transformers...

No matter what they say and what we do life is dangerous, and it will always be that way as long as there is life. :P
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5. October 2012 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
correct.
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Originally posted by harvardguy:
Wow - who knew it could be physically dangerous to work around computer equipment, what with fires, billowing smoke, and explosions! :P

Rich,

Ouch say's it all!




The force of a fair size piece of disk did that, about 1.5' from my head. That's a pretty stout piece of steel it bent, for something so light! Looked like a planned escape, to me! LOL!! Sounded like the crack of a rifle.

Russ

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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Russ you have changed your story and that's a fact!
As much as I hate that line when it's false, in this instance I'm pretty sure it's true. I've always tried to maintain a point of honesty on wide public forums, plenty of people who don't post will read - be honest, how many times have you needed to google something and found the answer in a discussion thread just like this one, but not needed to sign up and post?



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Russ you have changed your story and that's a fact!
As much as I hate that line when it's false, in this instance I'm pretty sure it's true. I've always tried to maintain a point of honesty on wide public forums, plenty of people who don't post will read - be honest, how many times have you needed to google something and found the answer in a discussion thread just like this one, but not needed to sign up and post?

Sam,

Well, you can continue hating that line then, because it is false! Since you seem to feel that it's true, how about a little proof of same! You have to admit that telling someone they are wrong without offering any tangible proof that they are, is pretty lame, and I am less than pleased that you seem to be questioning my honesty, and I do resent that!

I generally don't use other discussion forums posts, unless they show tangible links, pertinent to our forum discussion, otherwise it's just that many more meaningless words and expressionism's added to the pot, with no facts to support them, that muddies the waters for everyone, IMO!

Best Regards,
Russ

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6. October 2012 @ 07:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm combing through my DVDHounds emails at the moment to see if it's in there. Since the site has long since bit the dust, I have to resort to gmail search rather than searching the site itself.



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6. October 2012 @ 07:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It was a part of this thread somewhere way, way back. It's really not worth dredging up and if Russ wants to recollect different now so be it, I personally could care less as it really isn't worth the time.
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6. October 2012 @ 07:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Agreed, I've spent about half an hour looking through stuff, and haven't found anything one way or the other yet, more trouble than it's worth. I know what happened, because I was very active on the forum then, far moreso than now, and it's a story I've actually reiterated to people in the past as a useful example of why not to buy terrible PSUs. As vivid as forum stories go, it's not something I would easily forget.



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I don't want to be stories the mud here, but from what I remember it was also the case of a cheap psu burning down the curtains.
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
I don't want to be stories the mud here, but from what I remember it was also the case of a cheap psu burning down the curtains.

Shaff,

That's exactly what it was!

Best Regards,
Russ

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Even though it was supposedly an ASRock motherboard burning the curtains? The plot thickens...



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Even though it was supposedly an ASRock motherboard burning the curtains? The plot thickens...

Sam,

Let's look at this logically. The Asrock motherboard didn't come into the equation until after the fire! It was purchased as a replacement for the one that had the bad PSU. BTW, the original Win 95 motherboard was made by ECS, under a variety of names and models.

As far as it supposedly being an Asrock motherboard burning the curtains, I've never seen flames from a motherboard yet, and I didn't see any from it. All the smoke and sparks were coming out the back of the PSU. That doesn't sound like any motherboard fire to me, it sounds like a bad PSU!

Russ

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Rob,

Here's the final benchmarks for my 1090t. I'm pretty satisfied!

CPU Math 3825MHz




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I got a great deal on an Intel 330 120GB SSD, for $93. $83 w/$10 MIR. Fast does not cover it! About 20% faster than the Patriot Pyro 60GB SSD I had before, in spite of almost identical performance numbers. 60gb is just a little too small. In all I replaced the motherboard with a GigaByte GA-990XA-UD3, the DDR2 memory of the old 790X with 2x4GB DDR3 Cas 7 1600MHz Ripjaws, with timings of 7-8-8-24, and a GigaByte GTX550ti 1GB factory overclocked to 970MHz, another $83 special! I may get another, the next time they are on sale, just to fool around with SLI a bit. It's also a very competent gamer now. What amazes me the most is it's doing all of this at 3.8GHz. I've still got another 400MHz I can use, if I need it.




More than fast enough for me!

Russ

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It's been a long time since I used Sandra. The last time I tried it, it caused instant BSODs on multiple known stable machines, so I abandoned it. The fact that the results varied with each version (despite the fact that you'd expect MIPS to be a constant value!) meant I no longer see it as being very relevant. Number-crunching benchmarks like SuperPi are better, although far from perfect. However, doing some rough extrapolations from how I know the CPUs to compare (using the Q6700 as a baseline) your score seems about what you'd expect from a 3.66-3.8Ghz Phenom II X6, so about right by the looks of things :)
I'd expect the i7 version of my CPU at its current clocks to come in about 89000-90000, but it being an i5 I imagine it will lose a little by comparison, so maybe 86000-87000, looks like our CPUs are about equal, yours perhaps a small margin faster :P




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Originally posted by sammorris:


agreed haha



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I wise man once said "Never let the facts get in the way of a good story." so since i just said it, does that make me wise also?

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Nice marks Russ! Hoping to have one soon :P

Sam, you can only make comparisons with the same version of Sandra or Aida as it's now called. I believe Russ is using a particular build for his own comparisons.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
It's been a long time since I used Sandra. The last time I tried it, it caused instant BSODs on multiple known stable machines, so I abandoned it. The fact that the results varied with each version (despite the fact that you'd expect MIPS to be a constant value!) meant I no longer see it as being very relevant. Number-crunching benchmarks like SuperPi are better, although far from perfect. However, doing some rough extrapolations from how I know the CPUs to compare (using the Q6700 as a baseline) your score seems about what you'd expect from a 3.66-3.8Ghz Phenom II X6, so about right by the looks of things :)
I'd expect the i7 version of my CPU at its current clocks to come in about 89000-90000, but it being an i5 I imagine it will lose a little by comparison, so maybe 86000-87000, looks like our CPUs are about equal, yours perhaps a small margin faster :P


Sam,

This version of Sandra is Sandra.Pro.Business.XIb.v2007.2.11.17. It's been the most consistent of all the version's of Sandra, since the plug was pulled on v2005! I just wanted something I could run that would indicate some sort of change, when an adjustment is made. XIb comes the closest to doing that!

Best Regards,
Russ

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7. October 2012 @ 01:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks again for the nudge Russ. 'MY' Laptop is working wonderfully now, thanks to the new LCD panel :D I finally have a laptop! And thank god it has 4Gb of Ram. CPU is a bit slow on some flashbased games. It's a dual core AMD APU. A whopping 1.3Ghz LOL! I'm sure an SSD would kick it in the butt ;) I plan on doing that later. I've wanted a laptop for some time now. It only cost me 101USD to repair it :p Not bad for a used laptop!



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I'm currently considering this drive for a replacement on the laptop. Should be interesting to watch the difference between the intel, and the Vertex 4. I have a feeling I would be interested in another Intel for my Desktop ;)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...N82E16820167121



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Thanks again for the nudge Russ. 'MY' Laptop is working wonderfully now, thanks to the new LCD panel :D I finally have a laptop! And thank god it has 4Gb of Ram. CPU is a bit slow on some flashbased games. It's a dual core AMD APU. A whopping 1.3Ghz LOL! I'm sure an SSD would kick it in the butt ;) I plan on doing that later. I've wanted a laptop for some time now. It only cost me 101USD to repair it :p Not bad for a used laptop!

Oman7,

Just what the doctor ordered! LOL!!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167122

180GB, Sata III, and fast! $149 w/free shipping! Great price!

Best Regards,
Russ

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


 
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