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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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21. June 2011 @ 17:33 |
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Are you a "4400" and your ability is to destroy sata cables LOL!
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21. June 2011 @ 17:34 |
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21. June 2011 @ 17:36 |
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IT's an excellent show by the way ♥
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21. June 2011 @ 18:16 |
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The connectors are not made for high amounts of cycling, insertion, and that is why Sam has had problems with cables. The wire used typically isn't the greatest either they are very cheap. Sam's problems are very common.
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21. June 2011 @ 18:24 |
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No, the internal cables always remain permanently attached since the drive's installation.
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21. June 2011 @ 18:26 |
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HOw many yellow/red cables have you replaced? The yellow ones seem pretty good to me. I've only had one questionable one. It was transparent blue.
I think my brothers was black...
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21. June 2011 @ 18:28 |
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Replaced 6 (all) of the third-party Blue/UV/silver cables, about 5 yellows and about 3 or 4 reds.
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21. June 2011 @ 18:31 |
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Perhaps you're brutal :S Nah, just unlucky I guess. You certainly have good luck with hard drives anyway eh.
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21. June 2011 @ 18:39 |
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I do sometimes wonder if faulty cables are wrongly attributed to hard disks, given my issues :P
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21. June 2011 @ 18:43 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
The connectors are not made for high amounts of cycling, insertion, and that is why Sam has had problems with cables. The wire used typically isn't the greatest either they are very cheap. Sam's problems are very common.
gotcha.
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21. June 2011 @ 20:16 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
The connectors are not made for high amounts of cycling, insertion, and that is why Sam has had problems with cables. The wire used typically isn't the greatest either they are very cheap. Sam's problems are very common.
gotcha.
It sounds like Sam is hard on cables as they really shouldn't be going bad unless they are mishandled. I've messed up latching cables by pulling them off without releasing the latch but otherwise they tend to work fine. There is a bend radius that you should adhere to it' 2" spec. Sometimes when you get the cables new wrapped in plastic they have exceeded the bend radius and that can cause problems.
Black SATA's are the best all others suck! NO, no, no, color just doesn't matter. I have red cables that are just as good as my gray, yellow, blue, translucent and so on.
Keep dreaming Fred:) LOL
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22. June 2011 @ 00:01 |
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I use solely the yellow/orange and blue cables with the latches on them that Gigabyte sent me. Have yet to have one fail.
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22. June 2011 @ 00:13 |
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That's why I asked, I never had to replace a sata cable ever on any pc I ever owned, store bought or home made pc's, maybe I have been lucky don't know, or maybe the cables they are selling in the UK suck, I just tought it was odd.
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22. June 2011 @ 00:28 |
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I've built and tested hundreds of thousands of PC's and servers and have had bad brand new cables but it is truly rare. The only ones I have had bad that were good when I installed them on internal drives are the ones I screwed up. However like I said before even with eSATA cables that have higher cycle rates they can go bad from usage and I've seen that too.
Is that OK Fred? LOL
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22. June 2011 @ 01:59 |
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I don't know, Sam seems like a pretty intelligent guy. I really don't think with as many bad cables as he's had, he would treat them poorly. That just doesn't add up to me. Perhaps the majority of his cables came from one place. In which he might consider switching retailers/etailers. But that may not be the case either. Maybe he does do something to them, which is ill advised. Perhaps his cleanliness of cables, causes him to bend them too much???
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22. June 2011 @ 02:24 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I don't know, Sam seems like a pretty intelligent guy. I really don't think with as many bad cables as he's had, he would treat them poorly. That just doesn't add up to me. Perhaps the majority of his cables came from one place. In which he might consider switching retailers/etailers. But that may not be the case either. Maybe he does do something to them, which is ill advised. Perhaps his cleanliness of cables, causes him to bend them too much???
Only Sam would know, I agree he is sharp but even sharp people screw up. If he needs some extra cables I have a ton from all of the computers I've built brand new in plastic wrap.
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22. June 2011 @ 02:41 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
I've built and tested hundreds of thousands of PC's and servers and have had bad brand new cables but it is truly rare. The only ones I have had bad that were good when I installed them on internal drives are the ones I screwed up. However like I said before even with eSATA cables that have higher cycle rates they can go bad from usage and I've seen that too.
Is that OK Fred? LOL
LOL, Yeppers
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22. June 2011 @ 02:44 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I don't know, Sam seems like a pretty intelligent guy. I really don't think with as many bad cables as he's had, he would treat them poorly. That just doesn't add up to me. Perhaps the majority of his cables came from one place. In which he might consider switching retailers/etailers. But that may not be the case either. Maybe he does do something to them, which is ill advised. Perhaps his cleanliness of cables, causes him to bend them too much???
I agree 100%, he is one of the big guns here, that's why I thought it was odd, or like you said, might have been sold a bunch of crapola cables.
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22. June 2011 @ 05:11 |
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They're from various places, the reason for the colour discussion is that red cables are the cheapest type, and come free with stuff like PCI S-ATA cards, whereas the yellow cables are the latch type and come with gigabyte boards. The one trend that's clear as anything is that more expensive cables, such as those from the likes of Akasa, ACRyan, are far less reliable than basic cables given as freebies with other components. It's been a while since I've had any new cables though, as I've been reusing the cables I've had for older drives quite a few times, so technically all the ones that are failing are quite old (except for aforementioned branded cables).
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22. June 2011 @ 10:01 |
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doubt its a UKthing, o have had only one bad cable in te last 3/4 years, and that was a latched one that came with my dfi mobo. My premium akasa one is fine, as are all the redones have have got (mainly asus).
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22. June 2011 @ 10:21 |
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The only other trend I can really draw is that, somewhat counter-intuitively, the latched cables are far less reliable than the standard red ones. To be fair though, when you let low quality brands like Akasa loose with the design of something, it'll usually end up worse than the reference, in this case the S-ATA standard. I may get intermittent dropouts with cheap eSATA cables, but the £6 Akasa cable only lasted a couple of months before failing altogether, and it was hardly ever used.
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22. June 2011 @ 12:55 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
They're from various places, the reason for the colour discussion is that red cables are the cheapest type, and come free with stuff like PCI S-ATA cards, whereas the yellow cables are the latch type and come with gigabyte boards. The one trend that's clear as anything is that more expensive cables, such as those from the likes of Akasa, ACRyan, are far less reliable than basic cables given as freebies with other components. It's been a while since I've had any new cables though, as I've been reusing the cables I've had for older drives quite a few times, so technically all the ones that are failing are quite old (except for aforementioned branded cables).
NO, NO, NO, you can get free cables in ALL colors! Red is not the cheapest!! I have some yellow cables with latches that suck compared to some of my red cables. But I also have so shaty red cables without latches. Even the cables that aren?t great still work but if I bend them around excessively I can cause them to go bad. I have thousands of FREE cables from all the computer building I've done and like stated prior have built too many PC's. I have cables in some of my own PC's that are 5 years old now and I've replaced drives it those PC's with no problem what so ever, however I'm careful with my wiring.
Maybe it is the moon cycle that is causing your cabling nightmares, or you have not sacrificed an animal lately? LOL
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22. June 2011 @ 12:59 |
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LOL! Sam is doctor Jeckyll :p
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22. June 2011 @ 12:59 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
NO, NO, NO, you can get free cables in ALL colors! Red is not the cheapest!!
If that's so drastically wrong, do you have the paperwork? I can get 20 red cables for £3, cheaper than any other cables I've found :P
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22. June 2011 @ 13:38 |
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ALL of my cables are FREE which is what you've complained about so there is your paper work! Secondly money doesn't always equate to quality. I can buy Belkin cables from Best Buy for $40 but go to MonoPrice and pay $2 for the same quality or even better.
If you are having problems you need to look at what you are doing wrong and stop blaming the cables because you shouldn't be having the problems you are. First do not bend the cables more than a 90 degree bend in two inches. Don't tyrap the cables overly tight. And don't manhandle cables.
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