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22. June 2011 @ 13:39 |
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Well, when I said before they were the cheapest, I meant to manufacture, not in terms of retail. Most of the cables I expect anybody uses are freebies.
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22. June 2011 @ 14:39 |
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Is the color of the wire casing an indicator of the quality wire inside it?
A certain beer had a promotion where they changed the can logo and color for a few weeks.
Was i suddenly being sold bad beer since its container changed?
When the company that sells the good cables dressed in yellow decide to make other colors to match different mobos and cases, do they put inferior wire inside or just change the sleeve color?
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22. June 2011 @ 14:59 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Is the color of the wire casing an indicator of the quality wire inside it?
A certain beer had a promotion where they changed the can logo and color for a few weeks.
Was i suddenly being sold bad beer since its container changed?
When the company that sells the good cables dressed in yellow decide to make other colors to match different mobos and cases, do they put inferior wire inside or just change the sleeve color?
No they don't, not on that bases.
Beer(s) changed glass bottle colors from clear or green to brown as light can cause some beers due to their process to go bad or get skunky just like a Lager if not kept cool does. As far as cans of beer go it would be more the materials used, type of metal and thickness, but dark colors on a can in excess could hold more heat so there maybe something to that as well I just haven't heard that one before.
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22. June 2011 @ 15:36 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
ALL of my cables are FREE which is what you've complained about so there is your paper work! Secondly money doesn't always equate to quality. I can buy Belkin cables from Best Buy for $40 but go to MonoPrice and pay $2 for the same quality or even better.
If you are having problems you need to look at what you are doing wrong and stop blaming the cables because you shouldn't be having the problems you are. First do not bend the cables more than a 90 degree bend in two inches. Don't tyrap the cables overly tight. And don't manhandle cables.
Stevo,
I've seen red ones that appear to have no lock at all, yet they snap in like there's a detent ball and a spring or something. They are red and work great. More flexible and thinner than other cables. They either came from BioStar or Foxconn!
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22. June 2011 @ 16:22 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
ALL of my cables are FREE which is what you've complained about so there is your paper work! Secondly money doesn't always equate to quality. I can buy Belkin cables from Best Buy for $40 but go to MonoPrice and pay $2 for the same quality or even better.
If you are having problems you need to look at what you are doing wrong and stop blaming the cables because you shouldn't be having the problems you are. First do not bend the cables more than a 90 degree bend in two inches. Don't tyrap the cables overly tight. And don't manhandle cables.
Stevo,
I've seen red ones that appear to have no lock at all, yet they snap in like there's a detent ball and a spring or something. They are red and work great. More flexible and thinner than other cables. They either came from BioStar or Foxconn!
Russ
I haven't got those yet but I like the sounds of them. Much smarter to have a flexable latch system and less adpt for someone like me to pull them off without depressing the latch lever.
Nice!
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22. June 2011 @ 16:24 |
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I know what russ is talking about. I've come across at least one of those. I forget which computer though :S
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22. June 2011 @ 16:28 |
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I've seen at least one of those before as well, I don't remember it failing.
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22. June 2011 @ 16:40 |
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I've seen red ones that appear to have no lock at all, yet they snap in like there's a detent ball and a spring or something. They are red and work great. More flexible and thinner than other cables. They either came from BioStar or Foxconn!
Those are most definitely Biostar cables. One of my friends is a long time Biostar fan(ever since their formidable T-Force line) and he swears by their cables. He's had very good luck with all his Biostar hardware.
I think there is some credibility to telling cable quality by color. Red cables are definitely the cheapest type but then you have to consider an OEM building better cables in the same color ala the above-mentioned. I would generally put any of my Gigabyte cables near the top of the list, both the orange and blue. Conversely I've had two three red cables failed. Two of them causing the drive to drop in and out, and the third one the plastic housing on the connector simply broke brand new out of the box... and it was an ASUS. So I would group ASUS cables near the bottom being the most poorly constructed cable I've used so far.(not a shot at ASUS).
I did have some UV reactive cables for a while in my TT Armor but changed them out when I got my DFI board. Funny enough I put Gigabyte cables on the DFI and am still sitting on unopened DFI cables.
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22. June 2011 @ 16:46 |
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seriously, are we really having a conversation where colour makes a difference? next we will be saying painting stripes on a car mkes it faster
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22. June 2011 @ 16:48 |
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I understand where the color argument comes from. Red ones are widely used (obviously generic). You find them typically coming with specific equipment. Unless you're talking gigabyte where you receive blue or yellow. At least in my case ;)
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22. June 2011 @ 16:59 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
seriously, are we really having a conversation where colour makes a difference? next we will be saying painting stripes on a car mkes it faster
Very true, color has nothing to do with you see more red because that is what they used first and primary. Colors changed for window type cases and basically marketing reasons, none other. Again I have thousands of cables and color means nothing nor should it unless you think mythology & superstitions are fact as a couple here seem to.
Wait let me rub my crystal ball?. LOL
When people can't explain something they make things up and that is where this is going!
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22. June 2011 @ 17:00 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
seriously, are we really having a conversation where colour makes a difference? next we will be saying painting stripes on a car mkes it faster
Very true, color has nothing to do with you see more red because that is what they used first and primary. Colors changed for window type cases and basically marketing reasons, none other. Again I have thousands of cables and color means nothing nor should it unless you think mythology & superstitions are fact as a couple here seem to.
Wait let me rub my crystal ball?. LOL
When people can't explain something they make things up and that is where this is going!
I resent that accusation
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22. June 2011 @ 17:09 |
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LOL, OH OH, the sparks are starting to fly, sparks are cool, lets not start a fire though.
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22. June 2011 @ 17:38 |
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You should if that is what you believe!
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22. June 2011 @ 19:17 |
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watch the comments as don't need a flamewar.
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22. June 2011 @ 19:34 |
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Not responding to loaded comments like that, is a waste of words and moderator's time. I know full well what's being implied (and how rude it is), but such is life.
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22. June 2011 @ 19:40 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Is the color of the wire casing an indicator of the quality wire inside it?
A certain beer had a promotion where they changed the can logo and color for a few weeks.
Was i suddenly being sold bad beer since its container changed?
When the company that sells the good cables dressed in yellow decide to make other colors to match different mobos and cases, do they put inferior wire inside or just change the sleeve color?
No they don't, not on that bases.
Beer(s) changed glass bottle colors from clear or green to brown as light can cause some beers due to their process to go bad or get skunky just like a Lager if not kept cool does. As far as cans of beer go it would be more the materials used, type of metal and thickness, but dark colors on a can in excess could hold more heat so there maybe something to that as well I just haven't heard that one before.
My questions were meant to be rhetorical, the color of the outside having nothing to do with the quality of whats inside...Correlation ≠ Causation and whatnot...
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22. June 2011 @ 19:58 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Is the color of the wire casing an indicator of the quality wire inside it?
A certain beer had a promotion where they changed the can logo and color for a few weeks.
Was i suddenly being sold bad beer since its container changed?
When the company that sells the good cables dressed in yellow decide to make other colors to match different mobos and cases, do they put inferior wire inside or just change the sleeve color?
No they don't, not on that bases.
Beer(s) changed glass bottle colors from clear or green to brown as light can cause some beers due to their process to go bad or get skunky just like a Lager if not kept cool does. As far as cans of beer go it would be more the materials used, type of metal and thickness, but dark colors on a can in excess could hold more heat so there maybe something to that as well I just haven't heard that one before.
My questions were meant to be rhetorical, the color of the outside having nothing to do with the quality of whats inside...Correlation ≠ Causation and whatnot...
I figured as much it seems like pretty simple concept really.
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22. June 2011 @ 20:09 |
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Well the way I've always seen it the color can give you a slight clue as to the OEM of the cable. Traditionally cheap generic cables are red. Asus packs red cables with motherboards. Asus cables are cheaply constructed(in my experience) = Profit! If that has any real impact on reliability you have to decide for yourself.
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22. June 2011 @ 20:20 |
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I don't know if this is relevant, but all my blue ones are SATA 6, which makes it easy to plug them into their respective ports.
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22. June 2011 @ 20:29 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Well the way I've always seen it the color can give you a slight clue as to the OEM of the cable. Traditionally cheap generic cables are red. Asus packs red cables with motherboards. Asus cables are cheaply constructed(in my experience) = Profit! If that has any real impact on reliability you have to decide for yourself.
Intel packs red cables too and they are typically very good, color has nothing to do with anything other than it is a different color.
I have some short latchable red cables that I prefer the most they also have one end with a 90deg connector which is really nice for the MB's that the headers connect horizontally.
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22. June 2011 @ 20:35 |
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still honestly perplexed that people think colour means quality.
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22. June 2011 @ 21:45 |
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Diddo...
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22. June 2011 @ 22:23 |
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On an unrelated note, I'm putting an old build in a new home. The new case has top and side 200mm fan mounts for which i would like to purchase fans. What color fans would work best?
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22. June 2011 @ 22:25 |
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That's really a personal taste issue. I used to like LED lights but they kind of get on my nerves if I can't switch them off. Personally I like red LEDs, they're less intrusive than blue/green.
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