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22. June 2011 @ 22:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What do you think about Pink I hear pink fans are much more reliable.... LOL
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Generally you should be buying black fans. LED fans are often made of clear acrylic which is brittle and causes vibration.

This is getting into semantics. All I'm saying is color is a good indicator for a lot of stuff from OEM to the quality of the material. The trained eye can easily see it. It's not an infallible way of thinking but it's far from rating a product based simply on its color.



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i like my gentle typhoons, and they are grey.
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Generally you should be buying black fans. LED fans are often made of clear acrylic which is brittle and causes vibration.

This is getting into semantics. All I'm saying is color is a good indicator for a lot of stuff from OEM to the quality of the material. The trained eye can easily see it. It's not an infallible way of thinking but it's far from rating a product based simply on its color.
Estuansis,

I use the Silverstone FN-121BL, which is clear acrylic w/Blue LEDs, and it's about the quietest and most vibration free fan I've ever had. The only thing quieter in my computer is the 800 rpm Scythe Kama Bay Fan. It's even quieter than the manufacturers claims for it, by about 3 Dba, at 23.5 Dba. Silverstone says 26.6 Dba in their literature!

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I should apologize. I feel I helped fuel a fire. The color of a S-ata cable is really negligible(To an extent). The transparent blue one for instance, suggests to me, that a different process was used(Not talking about the transparency). It was slightly different than the typical S-ata cables. I'm sure the manufacturers of the cables are not segregating the different colors to different factories. THe machinery used is no doubt virtually identical. Other than the dyes/plastics used. Though of course there are different styles of S-ata cable as we've mentioned. And I'm not talking about eSATA here. I for one have an oddball laying around here that is brown. Strangest one i've come across. Quite possibly the cheapest build of one, that I've seen. I'll see about taking a pic of it, and sharing it in the forum. I believe it came out of an old build, by either HP or Dell. One of the earlier cables perhaps.

I guess what my problem is, I recognize cables by color. I remember the Transparent blue one well, because I found it highly questionable. I remember it best by color, and slightly different design. And a black one was replaced of my brothers, because it was highly questionable(CD/DVD media burning trouble). It's likely coincidence that they were of a rare color, that they should go tits up :p THe black one had the same exact build quality of the red ones :p Something about the yellow ones seems different :S



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For the fan issue, it's primarily a question of material. Opaque frames (black, and in certain cases Ivory) are far better for vibrations than translucent or transparent frames because of the plastic they're made of.



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With fans it is more about bearings than materials. Ball bearing fans typically are better although some sleeve bearing fans are good, ball bearing are much better and last longer, less vibration. The plastic if the fan is balanced shouldn't matter the drive system does although rigidity will be a factor if speed isn't constant. If the fan blades seem brittle they are probably more rigid and would be better but if they are cracking and falling apart then it can be a problem.

I typically use the old black muffin fans but have clear with LED's too and the only difference I see is the quality of build, speed control, and bearing style. Again the color doesn't make a difference.
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I will install a CD/DVD-RW in this new build. The burner came with a white faceplate and a black faceplate. Which should i use for better performance?

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Definitely white. It'll absorb less heat :p



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Definitely white. It'll absorb less heat :p
I second that!
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i dunno, not seen a black ones fail yet. they must be made better



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Alright come on now guys. Lets change the subject. How about the bulldozer Cpu's. When are they gonna grace the planet with their divine presence :D



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Between August and December, roughly.



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Alright come on now guys. Lets change the subject. How about the bulldozer Cpu's. When are they gonna grace the planet with their divine presence :D
What color are they it's important! Shame on me I guess I needed just one more dig. :)
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Ugh, I hate it when companies do this to me! I suppose it's just as well. I won't have funds til February. At least not major funds ;)

I get my 3Tb drive today. Apparently the drivers route changed though. Won't arrive til I'm at work! Unkind!!!



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If it's any consolation, the Fusion socket FM1 chips are just around the corner.



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The next 3 yrs are gonna be interesting :D



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I should apologize. I feel I helped fuel a fire
Apologize for what? What fire???? I'm so confused. I thought we were having intelligent conversation???

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If it's any consolation, the Fusion socket FM1 chips are just around the corner.
Yep but do anything but the top-end Bulldozer chips offer anything useful? As far as I was aware there was going to be a mess of Bobcat related parts released before we saw anything real from Bulldozer. AFAIK Fusion is integrated graphics on-chip which isn't much of an incentive for a gamer... :S



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I guess I'd rather have my graphics seperate from the processor but the FM1's have there place.
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
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I should apologize. I feel I helped fuel a fire
Apologize for what? What fire???? I'm so confused. I thought we were having intelligent conversation???
We were, but I don't like stepping on toes :S



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I didn't know any toes were about to be stepped on :(

Maybe I'm too happy-go-lucky for my own good :(



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I felt tension escalating... Perhaps I assumed the worst though. I do that.



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Here's the brownish cable I was talking about. Sure thought it was brown anyway. It's not black, It's not grey. Rather unusual. Reminds me of an old electric cord. It's a foxconn sata cable. The way it fastens worries me. It feels cheap. But perhaps the clips are merely worn.





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I've seen some like that, not used any personally. They look quite similar to the standard eSATA cables I have.



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I felt tension escalating... Perhaps I assumed the worst though. I do that.
You were right in your feeling totally. It is sad things come to that but they do from time to time. I still like Sam and think he is sharp although he may not like me much right now, but this isn't going to change my POV or what I know to be fact. But again it is sad things have to escalate as they do.

Those brown cables are different I have some black ones simular maybe they ran out of one of there primary colors when mixing this batch up? Funny...

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