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22. April 2006 @ 16:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My little bro gave me a 5 pk/with jewel cases-of Maxell +8x HighGrade. These discs are gold on top,with purple letters-pretty sharp. Made in Japan and by Hitachi: Maxell-002-00

Here's the 3rd one I burned at 8x on my 1650:






HP a1118x-b/athlon 64-3300+/BenQ 1650 BCDC/LG 8163B/Modded Wii/Epson-R300 and Ty Watershields!!!
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23. April 2006 @ 21:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   



Burned at 8X with 1640.
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23. April 2006 @ 22:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Verbatim lightscribe +8x/burned at 8x in my benq 1650:







HP a1118x-b/athlon 64-3300+/BenQ 1650 BCDC/LG 8163B/Modded Wii/Epson-R300 and Ty Watershields!!!
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24. April 2006 @ 02:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
here ya go, Verbatim 8x DVD+R burned @8x, all my settings remain the same as my other scans (ie. SB and WOPC enabled ie.~default~, overburn disabled)



i will show you an IDENTICAL disc, but scanned on my pioneer...the difference is huge...

docTY~

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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24. April 2006 @ 03:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
here is the SAME disc as above, burned with the Benq 1650, but SCANNED with my pioneer dvr-109~ :)

the results are simply STAGGERING...that's why i tell EVERYONE, NEVER EVER EVER rely on the results of a pioneer drive to scan, they are excellent burners and incredibly fast, rock solid as well; however, they couldn't scan a disc decently if their lives depended on it~ :)



good lord...a picture is worth a thousand words...see for yourself.

docTY~

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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24. April 2006 @ 03:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@Doc

Yeah, I hear that. My NEC 3550a scan like crap too. Shows the same type of E.O.B nonsense that kills the quality score. Same disc's scanned with the 1650 are much better.



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24. April 2006 @ 12:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Burned on a DW1670 just out of the box .. no QSuite installed .. firmware updates ignored .. just stuffed it and burned with Nero ..

Scanned with my DW1640 because there's no Ethernet card in the PC that I stuck the DW1670 in ...


Not bad for a virgin drive ...
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24. April 2006 @ 13:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@catfreak

VERY nice for a 'virgin' drive actually...i am impressed~ :) if that is any prediction of what it CAN do once everything is updated/utilized, it will be a great drive for the future~ :P

@9mm

definitely agree with you there, some burners are great at burning, but prove to be HORRIBLE at scanning, just a compromise that we have to live with i guess~ :) both your NEC and my Pioneer are such drives~

docTY~

Recommended Media:

Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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24. April 2006 @ 13:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You lucky (cat)! LOL

Now my benq 1650 is a month and a half old and obsolete- LOL

128 PI failures, Not too shabby.
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25. April 2006 @ 02:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I finally got around to burning with the BenQ 1650. Burned two different discs at 8x. The Verbatim and the Ritek P16. Here are the scan results:

OD branded 16x media - Ritek P16



Verbatim MCC-004



Does QSuite need to be activated whilst burning in order for solidburn to learn the media?

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25. April 2006 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tried burning the Ritek P16 tonight at 12x to see what happened and the disc fried kaput. Had to burn at 8x max with the BenQ.

Here is the results of the 8x burn:



and a 12x burn of the Verb MCC 004



The 12x was no problemo for the MCC media. And it scaned well too!



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25. April 2006 @ 20:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,
9mmruger1. The answer to your question "does QSuite need to be running for SolidBurn to work?", is no. SolidBurn once enabled is a system setting (ie written to the drive). This means that even if drive is removed & put in another pc with no QSuite installed. SolidBurn will still be active.
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26. April 2006 @ 01:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks Zeb, appreciate the imput. Have a great day.



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26. April 2006 @ 02:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ruger: Those results should improve after getting her broke in.

BTW: The break-in period of my original 1620 was around 3000 backups, LOL. Hard to kill one of these benqs!!!




HP a1118x-b/athlon 64-3300+/BenQ 1650 BCDC/LG 8163B/Modded Wii/Epson-R300 and Ty Watershields!!!
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26. April 2006 @ 03:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Saugmon, yeah I hear you. I am really pleased so far with this drive. It is so quiet. My NEC sounds like a freight train when it is running and the BenQ nada!

I am hoping that even the Ritek P16 will improve with usage. The burn from two days ago improve 2% with the second burn. I still don't understand the spikes that I get(both media types), or what would cause them. Any ideas?



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26. April 2006 @ 11:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't know what causes those spikes. Some of my scans,I get a huge and wide spike-and pretty wide at the 2 gb mark. That spike usually bumps down a couple percentage pts. No playback issues with them,and no problem re-ripping them. Just annoying seeing that huge-wide spike at the same spot.

I haven't tried any of those Ritek-P16's yet. The sony +1x-16x-SonyD21 and Office Depot +16x Ricohjpn-R03 are decent,but not quite like those 16x MCC-004 verbs.
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29. April 2006 @ 05:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have update my fw to BCFC on my DW1650 and here are the first 4 burns with it. Not real pleasing, hopefully they will get better. I wonder if the fact that the discs are episodal have anything to do with the scan results?

Thoughts?



2nd P16



1st MCC 004



2nd MCC 004



I am thinking that the drive will improve with usage.





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29. April 2006 @ 08:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,
9mmrugger1,
These drives will improve as they settle. If using SB then despite many folk implying that it takes two to three discs, I've known it take more (personally on a new drive or f/w I use a minimum of 5 discs). For those who are new to SB, it takes a default strategy that may or may not be close to that of the disc (this default strat has the same start point regardless of media inserted). It tests each & every disc (so in that sense never stops learning). The only difference is that after that 1st disc the next discs strategy point is taken from learned memory. A rogue disc can throw a spanner in the works. Hence in this scenario it's probably quicker(cheaper, less discs 'wasted while learning) to clear learned memory.
Sometimes if results are significantly lower than that of other users, reflashing the same f/w can show an improvement.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 29. April 2006 @ 08:34

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29. April 2006 @ 10:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thank you for the insight. I am not to worried at this point as they play magnificently, both the P16 and MCC's. I will keep an eye on the scans tho to see if there is an improvement.

Thank you again for the help with the flash. I keep on learning all the time, and enjoy it. You do a great service to all here.



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29. April 2006 @ 18:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you bet
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29. April 2006 @ 19:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You bet? WTF!

What about this one:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/23/240341









HP a1118x-b/athlon 64-3300+/BenQ 1650 BCDC/LG 8163B/Modded Wii/Epson-R300 and Ty Watershields!!!
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2. May 2006 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
FredBun adds such insight to his posts huh? I learn so much. sarcastly speaking


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2. May 2006 @ 15:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,
Just in case you thought the 1640 dead & buried.
MCC 03RG20 @ 16x CloneDVD SB/WOPC enabled OS disabled. 1640 latest f/w BSPB.
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2. May 2006 @ 18:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's amazing how much imput you put in just to analyze "you bet", wow, I wish that was my main worry in life, the irony is you don't even have any idea who I answered to do you. I wont even say, I let you analyse it some more, sarcasticly speaking.
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3. May 2006 @ 11:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey, any of you MCC004 experts use Nero with the DW1650, could do with some advice here re possible not-quite-there-firmware-support for MCC004 - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/338218



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