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6. June 2006 @ 13:59 |
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Find me the link then I'll believe it. Besides it's irrelevant, you couldn't run anything like that anyway.
How far can you OC a P4?
How long is a piece of string.
All depends what you do. At the end of it (not the end of the day because that's a footballer's expression and I don't like it) it's down to how much you tweak, how good a mobo you have, how good your memory is, and how good your luck is. Each CPU will vary one to the next.
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6. June 2006 @ 15:30 |
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sammorris,
The link would be about a year old and since I didn't think anything about it at the time I didn't save it.
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How far can you OC a P4?
How long is a piece of string.
A P4 is not an imfinate CPU, there are design/materials considerations. There are rules that apply to the design of any electronic componant. These are based on the quality of a given batch of silicone, the design parameters called for in the Initial design and the Manufacturing process type itself. Tom's Hardware pointed out that while they could clock it to 5.1, it wouldn't run stable enough to run the benchmarks. When you get right down to it, that makes the 5.1 meaningless as the processor won't run stable. What good is a 5.1 proc if it's not stable?
I've been doing a little more tweaking and I am now at 3.75. My memory now runs at 470MHz on a 940MHz fsb (native 235). Here's the benches!
Cpuz
Math
Memory Bandwidth
I upped the CPU voltage to 1.312 and turned the bus up to 235MHz.
The memory benchmarks show how well my memory does compared to the top DDR2 chipsets running somewhat more exotic memory. The Math benchmark is compared to the Dual-Core Extreme edition Intel, the top 2 AMDs and the x2 3800+! I think I'll leave it right there as it runs great. I'll run Prime 95 overnight again and if there are no errors, I'll leave it alone. I prpbably could get it to 3.80 if I was willing to go higher on the voltage for both the CPU and the memory, but I'm not. 3.75 is good, starting from a 3.2. The numbers look very good too!!!
Happy Computering,
theonejrs
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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6. June 2006 @ 16:00 |
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If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 7. June 2006 @ 15:36
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6. June 2006 @ 16:04 |
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Sorry the benches arent clear I will repost after I take my daughter to school!!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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6. June 2006 @ 18:05 |
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If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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6. June 2006 @ 18:29 |
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6. June 2006 @ 20:05 |
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p-4 3.2 prescott HT curently at 3.6/Abit IC7-G (Abit rule!)/2 Gig Mushkin extream 2.5-2-2-6
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PeterG969
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6. June 2006 @ 23:08 |
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has anybody tried to see how the intel core duo in the laptop matches up to a p4
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7. June 2006 @ 02:12 |
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OK,
New benches @2.7GHZ after much tweaking.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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7. June 2006 @ 03:11 |
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crowy, That's a 35% OC, something I couldn't do with a 3.2 because as the base CPU speed gets higher from one model to the next up, the percentage allowed decreases. Try running Prime95 on it and see if it runs without errors. I generally run it overnight and so far no errors or problems. I would guess that you are about done as I don't think there is much left.
Question! Did you raise the CPU and the Memory voltage? If so, how much? How are your CPU temps? I know AMDs are different when it comes to the Hyper transport which the Intels don't have so what are those settings? My 3.0/800 Prescott finaled out at a 22% OC at 3.64. I can only get about a 16% OC on my D940, but thats taking a 3.2 to 3.75! I could maybe get it to 3.8 but I think it fast enough as is. Besides, why tempt fate. I don't want to burn it out!
BTW, why are your sandra benches so hard to read???
Happy Computering,
theonejrs
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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7. June 2006 @ 06:20 |
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PERFORMANCE RATING 8104?????
LOL. I get 3139.
Can you try de-themeing your XP so we can read those benches? I can read them but it's not easy.
2700mhz from a 3800+ is just LUDICROUSLY GOOD. You've just saved yourself something in the region of £400, or whatever that is in your currency.
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7. June 2006 @ 06:25 |
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76 seconds for a million places.
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PeterG969
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7. June 2006 @ 08:22 |
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why do you want to overclock your machine? and what for?
maybe for windows to load a few seconds faster not worth it.
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7. June 2006 @ 09:53 |
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PeterG869,
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why do you want to overclock your machine? and what for?
maybe for windows to load a few seconds faster not worth it.
It's more than loading windows a few seconds faster! All programs will run faster. It's great for bringing down your encoding times with RE/CCE. Even DVD Shrink times improve a good bit. I knocked 8 minutes off a known time for copying a 7.2GB DVD. I haven't had time to do a RB/CCE yet but I'm sure it will knock a good chunk off those times as well! Autocad runs much faster as well!
In another forum I belong to, we have a couple of people that bought the Intel D805, just to see what they could get out of a very cheap Dual-Core. At $120 (USD) and another $50 or so for a motherboard, it's worth it. It's also a learning experience (and a little competition) as well. It's also fun! You know, "Man vs Machine"!!! I'm very happy with how my D940 3.2 runs at 3.75. It's like I went out and bought a CPU costing a couple of hundred dollars more than the $260 I spent! Of course I'de have to overclock that as well!!!
Happy Computering,
theonejrs
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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7. June 2006 @ 10:17 |
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Well no that's not really where the gain is (for that you need two raptors in RAID :D). You'd be surprised, a 35% overclock can get encoding a massive movie down from maybe 120 minutes to 90 minutes. Half an hour saved every time I encode a film is quite enticing for nothing. After all why do people buy faster CPUs? Its like upgrading but for free.
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7. June 2006 @ 11:15 |
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YEAH ILL NOT CONTRIBUTE TO GLOBAL WARMING as youll need all the fans and extra electricity to fuel the computer and i do not want to be at 40 degress in 2050
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7. June 2006 @ 11:23 |
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sure, do your bit as they say. In that case buy an AM2 X2 low power 3800+ that uses 35W. Do your bit for the environment. I'm allowed to do this because I don't yet drive.
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7. June 2006 @ 11:30 |
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All this time I thought it was carbon dioxide, monoxide, other fluorocarbons (along with methane from farting cows) that contributed to global warming. Now I know it was overclocking the whole time! I may want to rethink cracking into this Opteron.
Nope, I'm gonna gamble with my daughters future. When the world implodes, and our spirits are traveling around wondering what happened, know that I got the Opty past 2.7!!!
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7. June 2006 @ 11:41 |
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LOL!
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7. June 2006 @ 11:46 |
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what are you on about you retard!?
if you use more power the power stations need to burn more raw materials to make your power which gives off poisonous gases
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7. June 2006 @ 12:38 |
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Wasnt trying to get your knickers twiztid kid. I do mean kid because your words proove that. Step back a second and think of upping processes .05v at a time, on a power supply that always sucks the same power out of your wall. That energy is already taken by your power supply and all this tweaking stresses your power supply that still draws that same amount of power out of the wall.
By the way, I bought my house with my wife a year ago because it was in one of the only countys whose energy comes from windmills.
PLEASE lets move on, I wanna see more screenshots so I can get an idea about where to start on my board.
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7. June 2006 @ 13:01 |
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if everybody in the world (6 billion i think)overclocked there processor with an added volatge of 0.5v..well u see where im coming from.
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7. June 2006 @ 13:35 |
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PeterG969,
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YEAH ILL NOT CONTRIBUTE TO GLOBAL WARMING
I hate to point this out but Global Warming no longer exists! The Scientist's say it peaked back in the 70s and has been cooling ever since. In fact there was a show on one of the PBS channels about just that recently which ws where my information comes from. That's why you never hear anything about it anymore from the Government because they know there's nothing to it.
Happy Computering,
theonejrs
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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7. June 2006 @ 13:41 |
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I make statements like that, and always get told off for it. Lol.
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7. June 2006 @ 14:01 |
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If everyone in the world flushed the toilet at the same time we'd really be in trouble.
I know this isn't the overclock thread, but where do some of you guys start first to achieve the better benchmarks, Ram?, FSB+ or - with multiplyer? Are these the same between AMD & INtel? I mean motherboard being the same, would Intel OC better by tweaking one area while AMD gets strength from another? Just curious.
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