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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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23. July 2008 @ 15:00 |
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Indeed, the best image quality will come from the best panel, but there is also the quality of the workmanship for the rest of the product, and given both what I've seen of benq monitors and indeed all their products in the past, I wouldn't trust them on that basis, never mind the terrible image quality that a lot of their screens I've seen have produced.
S-IPS is certainly incredible for image quality from personal experience, but S-PVA is certainly decent enough, assuming as previously mentioned, you don't encounter any dead pixels.
Also, FWIW, my 11ms GTG, 14ms BTW S-IPS screen is perfectly fast enough for gaming, I can't see ghosting or any other errors even if I look for it.
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23. July 2008 @ 15:31 |
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S-IPS is certainly incredible for image quality from personal experience, but S-PVA is certainly decent enough, assuming as previously mentioned, you don't encounter any dead pixels.
Also, FWIW, my 11ms GTG, 14ms BTW S-IPS screen is perfectly fast enough for gaming, I can't see ghosting or any other errors even if I look for it.[;/quote]Samsung's recent LED backlit panels are beginning to takes top spot. BTW, some of Dells 30 inch monitors aren't S-IPS they are S-PVA. S-PVA now surpasses S-IPS for viewing angles and match them for color. The problem with GTG measures is that it just measures gray to gray where a monitor's response times are faster. A better measure is white to black.
My next monitor is going to be a Samsung.
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23. July 2008 @ 15:35 |
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Last I read all of Dell's 30"s were S-IPS, as was the Apple Cinema and HP L3065 but the Samsung 305T is S-PVA along with the other subsequent manufacturers. As previously mentioned, my black to white is 14ms, which I read is quite good, I've seen quite a few 6ms GTG monitors that are 16ms Black to white.
I have no objection to people using Samsung monitors whatsoever, the fact remains however I have never seen any dead pixels on a Dell, not one, and I've seen at least a dozen of them if not more.
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23. July 2008 @ 15:37 |
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I have 3 Samsung tv/monitors in my room now, plus the 32" Samsung tv, all spotless :)
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23. July 2008 @ 15:42 |
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Hey Sam, my 30 inchers are all S-IPS(HP L3065). Damn, I've sold like 8 of these, but I cant keep one for myself because my computer is too retarded to support it.
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23. July 2008 @ 15:45 |
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Lol, no dual link DVI on integrated graphics!
Track down a Dell 3008WFP, that'll work off VGA, if you could bear to use a thousand pound monitor off a crummy integrated chipset!
Creaky: Never seen an issue with Samsung's TVs, only monitors, and it's not very common either. However, I know about half a dozen people with Samsung monitors and two of them have had pixel defects. Including myself, I know near 15/16 people or so with Dell monitors, every one is flawless, as are the 4 or 5 people with Samsung HDTVs...
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23. July 2008 @ 15:48 |
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AHH, but can I get a brand new Dell 3008WFP for 450 dollars? I thought now lol!
For all the money I save with the HP(which I have heard actually looks better than the Dell) I could build myself a gaming computer!
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23. July 2008 @ 15:50 |
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450 dollars is just ludicrous. I paid $1500 for mine in December 06, and that was half its RRP back then.
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23. July 2008 @ 16:12 |
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Last I read all of Dell's 30"s were S-IPS, as was the Apple Cinema and HP L3065 but the Samsung 305T is S-PVA
I read that Dell was swapping them out for S-PVA panels and which you got was hit an miss.
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AHH, but can I get a brand new Dell 3008WFP for 450 dollars? I thought now lol!
Cant' get a 30 inch samsung for that either.
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Lol, no dual link DVI on integrated graphics!
Samsung using a single DVI-D link and does not require analog.
[qote]DVI-D defined:The 1142 series DVI-D cable is a dual-link, DVI-D to DVI-D digital video monitor cable. Unlike single-link DVI cables, dual-links feature a full set of pins for increased bandwidth, allowing you to view higher resolutions at longer distances without loss or interference.
It seems to have what I want in a monitor for a fair price.
http://www.hardware.info/en-US/articles/...monitor_review/
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23. July 2008 @ 16:14 |
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Possibly, I hadn't heard that, but in any case, mine is an A01 revision from 2006.
The Samsung, like the Dell 3008 (but not the 3007) will support Single link as it's scaled. However, to use 2560x1600, you will need to use Dual link DVI.
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23. July 2008 @ 16:15 |
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soph i have a P-VA pannel, got it for £200 but not sure if they will ship to IE so i put in one that would go towards the budget. i doubt being TN would be much of a difference then a VA panel, and seeing as her son is gaming, then its better.
mort, i am saying it because why get something more expensive if we know OCing wont be done, AND we dont know if the builder know about the BIOS enough to set the straps so that the RAm runs at its rated speed. if he leaves it all on auto it will be runnign 1:1 so 333 on the FBS and 333 on the ram (thats 667 effective) which is still less than the 800 i was advicing.
i know i am always goign on about PC6400 but im not in america, its about £60 for 4GB of PC6400 where are 4GB PC8500 is £80. £20 is a big difference, which can effectively kill a budget. its the differnce of a HDD size, or better PSU/CPU/MOBO, its not £5 or £10. and yes i know not all PC6400s are guaranteed to run 1066 but i am sure ALTO of the 444 12 ones reduced to 555 15 and adding 0.1V on the RAM. i know alot of people that have done it, and i persanlly have done it.
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23. July 2008 @ 16:25 |
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I don't think you'd notice the difference. I like to think myself a gamer, and owning an SIPS, the worst of the lot for gaming, it's absolutely fine, and more than suited to the purpose.
The extra cost of RAM could certainly sway the cost of a CPU or perhaps the motherboard. However, the PSU should never come after budget considerations. A quality, well-rated PSU, is always a first consideration. I know you know that, but given how many other people read this thread, I thought I might stress it in case people get the wrong ideas... and that does happen.
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23. July 2008 @ 16:36 |
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However, to use 2560x1600, you will need to use Dual link DVI.
Think of DVI-D as scaled down HDMI without the sound. Unlike DVI-I it will need a vga connection for booting. DVI-D supports only digital signals but that is not an issue. Sam, as long as you've known me when was the last time that I asked you for advice? When the answer is never then why do you think I'm prepared to take it now. LOL
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23. July 2008 @ 16:39 |
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I'm not giving you advice, I'm elaborating on your statement:
Originally posted by sophocles:
Samsung using a single DVI-D link and does not require analog.
More than just you and me are going to read that.
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23. July 2008 @ 16:42 |
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More than just you and me are going to read that
Then for their sake let's hope they know which one of us to listen to.:D
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23. July 2008 @ 16:48 |
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Edited: There's a time and a place for comments like that.
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23. July 2008 @ 16:52 |
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23. July 2008 @ 16:54 |
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Hanns-G aren't too bad, but aren't a particularly high quality brand, their stuff has been known to go wrong on not too few occasions. Never heard of Optiquest, but for that price, that's probably not a good thing.
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23. July 2008 @ 17:03 |
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any body care to Speculate on these Monitors
They're ok for their price range and are of reasonable quality for TN panels. TN panels are often referred to as the gaming panel because of lower latency, not too mention price.
These are higher quality TN panels.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...N82E16824236037
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23. July 2008 @ 18:19 |
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not to change the direction of the topic now.. and im sure ive asked this once before, but i dont remember the answer.
what is the difference between a dual core CPU and a core 2 duo? isnt it the same? just different wording? and price and im sure other things that i dont know of. thats why im asking.
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23. July 2008 @ 18:21 |
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Nope, Dual core is the technology. Only the Core 2 Duo is a core 2 duo, but the following are all dual cores:
Core Duo
Core 2 Duo
Turion X2
Athlon64 X2
Pentium D
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23. July 2008 @ 18:23 |
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Oh hai thar.
Back from a long break from AD. Been keeping up with the latest hardware though.
I'll pitch in as much as possible.
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23. July 2008 @ 18:24 |
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Yeah Dual Core just means it has two cores on the chip. The CPUs Sam listed all have two cores. The Core 2 is a specific kind of dual core.
Oh and yes I CAN get the 30" for 450 dollars.
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23. July 2008 @ 18:34 |
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It's astonishing really, how you pull that off. If only you were selling 3008s I'd buy one and ship it internationally. The 3065's not much of an upgrade from my current...
Could you get in touch with the aD staff to advertise selling those? Some people do want 30" screens round here, harvardguy for example is eyeing one up...
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23. July 2008 @ 18:58 |
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I don't get that many. Supply is very low. I usually post them on craigslist or ebay and they are gone in about 2 hours so I dont really need to advertise more. If anyone wants one, I suppose they can send me a PM or something?
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