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23. October 2008 @ 18:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well this one is about a year older than my sata. i got it in feb 2007 my sata in feb 2008.
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23. October 2008 @ 18:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not the age of the product, but age of the design. The IDE drives haven't really been updated since 2006.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Not the age of the product, but age of the design. The IDE drives haven't really been updated since 2006.
Neither has RedRob but he still works.... hehehe. :P j/k Robert. :D

I think the transfer rates for the SATA HDD's are quite a bit faster than IDE but you still have to have the mobo for it. ;) I'm NOT sure that RedRob has a fast enough mobo and good enough RAM to get the speed he wants... hehehe. Buy some NEWER stuff Rob and send me that old stuff you got.... :P

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cincyrob: Whats the warranty on that WD HDD
I Know Samsungs are 3yr, and they are the coolest running HDD
Seagates R 5yrs
I used to swear by WD, but of my older HDD they burnt out 1st. Replaced with newer WD HDD, they went bad 1st. Now I'm talkin 5 + yrs ago, everything changes over time. So probably they are back on track
WD and Maxtor were my favorites. Maxtor were great U could hear the clicking as they worked
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From my experience, Maxtors seem to go first. Samsungs aren't inherently unreliable but their newer drives have several issues with their design. WDs are generally pretty solid and quiet. Seagates are loud as hell but are excellently reliable. Hitachis don't seem to have anything going for them at all.



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Heres an ugly graph I found on a different website, although the speeds of HDD's are the same the interface speed is the difference. OK SATA-1 isnt a whole lot faster than the fastest ATA(133 mbps vs 150mbps) but go to sata2 and its more than double.



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Wow I didn't realise ATA-5 didn't exist until 2000...



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All U guys must have super hyper hearing. I don't really find any HDD noisy. But your right Deckstar sucks
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23. October 2008 @ 18:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:

I think the transfer rates for the SATA HDD's are quite a bit faster than IDE but you still have to have the mobo for it. ;) I'm NOT sure that RedRob has a fast enough mobo and good enough RAM to get the speed he wants... hehehe. Buy some NEWER stuff Rob and send me that old stuff you got.... :P

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hell if this mobo got any newer it still be in the factory under design..lol

the warranty on this WD as with all WD's i think are 3 years.
i wanted to get the segate 500gb but under the circumstances i went this route..lol this drive is kinda like turning on the C1E for your cpu.. it will speed up to 7200rpms when needed if not run at 5400rpms...just thought i try something different,to be different....better not say a word you greenturd..lol
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23. October 2008 @ 18:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heh, when you compare a newer WD to a Seagate you realise how much of a difference there is... :P
Will be getting a couple of greenpowers for myself soon enough.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Heh, when you compare a newer WD to a Seagate you realise how much of a difference there is... :P
Will be getting a couple of greenpowers for myself soon enough.
i was kinda leary to getting the GP WD mostly cause ive had nothing but segate's.you know the saying if it ain broke why fix it..lol
so only time will tell
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Originally posted by rick5446:
All U guys must have super hyper hearing. I don't really find any HDD noisy. But your right Deckstar sucks

99.9% of us don have the super hyper hearing(Sam being the .1%)
but my old(5yo)100gb 8mb cache ide segate that puppy sounds like i got 12 lifters chattering when being used...lol
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cincyrob,
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s the sata hdd faster than the ide? they are both 250gb 16mb chache/buffer. i assumed the sata vs ide was the same with hdd as with ODD's? am i wrong? if so i will leave the sata 250gb drive as my main drive.. if it is slower(ide) i will just have to deal with it for a little while,until i can try out vista.

Sata II 3.0GB/s is much faster than ATA133, which is the fastest IDE. Optical drives are inherently slow compared to a HDD, to begin with. That's why there's so little to chose either way with an ODD. I doubt, given the technology if that's ever likely to change much! I don't see any 20x DVDs for sale and 20x has been around for a while! As long as the MB makers keep the IDE interface, I'll stay with the IDE ODDs! That leaves me with 6 available Sata ports, 4 Intel and 2 Gigabyte, with my Boot drive and my storage drive using the first two Intels. I can even have "Hot Swap" for two externals if I choose to use the two Gigabyte Sata ports! Even if my next MB has no IDE, I have two adapters that plug into the drive and become Sata Drives. It works either way, too! Plug it into your IDE MB header, and you have 1 additional Sata port!

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i bought a card controler that has a extra ide plug and 2 extra sata plugs on it... didnt have no need for it so i gave it to bigwill...in the mean time i needed a extra ide slot so he bought me another card controler with 2 ide plugins on it so i got plenty ide slots now but have used all 6 of my sata plugins on the mobo. 2 hdd 3 odd and 1 esata plugin... guess i could but another one of the card controllers to add 2 more sata's or unhook the Esata. hell i dont use for anything..lol
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
lmao @ everyone....im still blameing windows..easier to do..lol
i mean look at it this way. all brands/make/models of hdd's are basiclly made the same some faster than others. and windows has the same effect on all HDD not just some. so in my twisted eyes its windows fault. does linux or any other OS do the same thing???

if you are going to blame anyone blame the hdd manufacturers. they lie about the actual size of the drive. they say 500gb is 500,000,000,000 bytes when it is actually 536,870,912,000 bytes.

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Does anybody know where I can get a Catalyst that works other then from AMD or ATI
I've got a Saphire ATI Radeon X1900 GT. But it seems everytime I D/L Drivers & Catalyst I end up with the 600 series, the drivers seem to work but the Catalyst doesn't
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600 series? All PCIe cards share the same version of catalyst.



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OK Thanks, Just can't find a Catalyst that works
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try dna drivers. they are good.
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spamual Is that a Catalyst or just drivers..The drivers work fine 4 me, but the Catalyst doesn't. I need the Catalyst to incorporate my TV for viewing. Its the only way I know how (Catalyst wizard), other wise it won't display, even at the 1024x768
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1024x768 won't work on a standard TV, it has to be high def. You need 640x480 or 850x480 for a normal TV in the US, 768x576 or 1024x576 for a UK TV.



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its an LG LCD 34" TV W/RGB PC/DTV Input 1080i/1080p. Back a few installations ago it worked fine when the Catalyst worked

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Go to http://www.filehippo.com and download an older Catalyst release.



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Been their can't find one
http://www.filehippo.com/

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Do you use XP or Vista?



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