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28. October 2008 @ 09:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well up and running on vista ultimate.was a snap installing.just installed gigabyte exe. Evga exe.pretty dang quick.it is new to me and will take some getting use too...gotta slowly put some of my apps on it. good ole cut and paste..lol

gonna have ot play around with it and find out what i can and cant do.

WOW this is different!!!!!!!!!!!its in the middle of doing 64 updates 26 completed

Question. how can i setup where i dont have to add a password when windows starts up? i want ot be able to turn on the puter windows fires up with asking password.

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28. October 2008 @ 11:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well you have to remove your password I think. Also in your account settings make sure it has "Ask for password on startup" or something like that disabled.
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I know this thread is for PC Building, but does anybody have any knowledge on Digital Camcorders. Or point me to a Forum here at AD that does
I'm looking to buy one and would like to have some opinions on some that I can show that is of interest to me. THANKS
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Thanks Sam
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well im not haven any problems with any of my burning programs so far. have done a few burns now on vista no problems..


only thing so far is i have no sound??? shows all my drivers as being there shows audio is there but no sound????? any ideas?

only error i have in the device manager is with my lexmarx scanner. i havent updated the drivers for it

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Originally posted by cincyrob:
well up and running on vista ultimate.was a snap installing.just installed gigabyte exe. Evga exe.pretty dang quick.it is new to me and will take some getting use too...gotta slowly put some of my apps on it. good ole cut and paste..lol

gonna have ot play around with it and find out what i can and cant do.

WOW this is different!!!!!!!!!!!its in the middle of doing 64 updates 26 completed

Question. how can i setup where i dont have to add a password when windows starts up? i want ot be able to turn on the puter windows fires up with asking password.

Go to User Accounts in the control panel. Select "Change the way users log on and off". Uncheck the top box, "Use the Welcome screen", and it should boot right up!

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cincyrob..I had same problem, did U try and go to the Sound folder and change settings that is what I had to do ac something or other I think
I found it easier to navigate around in Vista setup as WinXP

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is this good memory for everyday use and (video encoding,ripping,recoding). looks like a decrnt PSU also
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227198

Its a combo deal at Newegg..PSU & Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341012
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Yeah both of those are fine as far as quality goes. Nothing high end, but not too bad.

Sam wont like the PSU though.
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28. October 2008 @ 17:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What would have happened to Chevrolet if we all liked & bought Fords
Can U maybe suggest a similar priced & better PSU 500to600 watt
Kinda leary of lower Wattage PSU
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28. October 2008 @ 17:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think it's fine for a regular(non-gaming) computer.

The Antec Earthwatts 380 and Corsair 430 are also excellent low wattage units.
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I don't inherently dislike that PSU, but I just don't recommend a power supply manufacturer that has no idea why the output from their units fluctuates, and no other manufacturers' do.



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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Yeah both of those are fine as far as quality goes. Nothing high end, but not too bad.

Sam wont like the PSU though.

You're the OCZ man, so are these any good? I particularly like the low 1.8v requirement and they won't be overclocked!

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Well I had sticks of OCZ platinum and they were HORRIBLE. Had like 6 of them fail on me. I have not heard bad things about these though.

And they ARE good about replacing them.
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I dunno, I just plant OCZ in the Crucial group. Some might be alright, but they've made some real trash in their time. To my knowledge, Corsair and G-Skill never have.



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Crucial used to make THE BEST stuff before their recent fiasco. Micron D9 baby.
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rick if you get both of those for the 80-something dollars then that's a lovely price coupled with the MIR's. :) I don't see anything wrong with either product if you're using them for sensible applications and NOTHING to wild. ;) That RAM is difficult to pass up but I have some spare sticks already..... I'm thinking about some 2x2GB atm. Just need to find the right deal and I'll have some on the way. :)

good luck with your selections buddy. :0

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I have a/some question(s) fellas and I'm sure I know the answer but I like input anyway. :)

If I get some 2x2GB sticks, would that be better over getting 4x1GB sticks if the same speed is used and the manufacturer doesn't matter?? I've heard that the 2 sticks will OC better than the 4... oh and btw if I does this it may be on a Vista 32 bit machine.... so what about that as a difference as well? tia ppl.. :)

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PC build thread blank media thread Ultimate DVD Backup resource thread what did binkie7 do to me???

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Well here it is, Just as I said it would be, several months back. My friends, who are major stockholders in Micro$oft told me months ago that Vista would be no more as of late 08 to early 09. Microsoft introduced it's replacement today with the introduction of Windows 7! Vista is no more as of today!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/29/techno...ing/29soft.html

Russ


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Just like micrsoft start 2 get something a little closer 2 right and quit. Wonder when this will hit the net
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Originally posted by rick5446:
Just like micrsoft start 2 get something a little closer 2 right and quit. Wonder when this will hit the net

The word on that is late 08, early 09! My guess would be mid 09! Vista will be back, as they plan a Win 7 Vista Edition which is supposed to be the best of XP and Vista, but from what I've heard about Win 7, it will do most of that now, besides, the name is associated with Failure, so I doubt there will ever be a Vista Edition. Vista will be around for a while yet though, and improvements will still be made to it in the form of patches and upgrades. Good PR for M$ too as vista didn't sell very well. Its Windows unit reported just a 2 percent rise in revenue against a 4 percent decline in operating income, in a Market seemingly owned by M$! Those are some seriously bad numbers! Office software made more money than the Operating System, with a 23% increase in revenues!

I personally think that M$ got tired of having their dinky knocked in the dirt by Apple with their very successful Mac ads comparing the Mac to the PC! As Problems with Vista surfaced, Apple took advantage with their Mac ads, even more!

I think what it really all boils down to is that M$ has given up on vista! They just can't afford to put any more money into it. Like you said, "Just like micrsoft starts 2 get something a little closer 2 right and quit"! When it's costing you twice as much as what you are making, it's time to close the barn door! One thing's for sure, Windows 7 won't be giving compatibility issues with hardware, so if you want to use a different printer, you don't have to go through all the Compatibility/Security BS, and that's a good thing for all of us!

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After almost two years, Windows Vista is still getting a lackluster reception from consumers and facing a relentless marketing barrage from Apple.
Ouch, sure glad i didn't bother with Vista then, i'll be interested in it's replacement as long as it's able to run on 'normal' ie modest machines. Just because latest pc's are very powerful doesn't mean an OS should automatically use ALL of that power. There's also been too much talk of DRM functionality being put into Vista. Whether or not that's true i don't know but i certainly won't be a guinea pig, the media in use on my machines is my business, not Microsoft's.

It's very telling that (for instance) XP has been around for sooo long and Vista's death knell seems to have been announced already. I say for instance as there's more than just Windows out there (and i don't count Mac OS).



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Ironically, Vista is close to being a useful OS for everyone, but it took so long to get there, people lost interest. XP fortunately pulled it off in well under a year (by the '2002 edition') and escaped Windows 2000. Plus, it was pretty easy since the home user OS before it was Me. ugh.



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untill SP2 XP was a BSODing nightmare for me :(

but i did love XP!

vista on the other hand for me, even pre SP1 has been wonderfull.

cant wait for windows 7, and then the usual people who will (once again) be flaming the new OS left right and centre.

going form 98SE, i remmeber it for 2000, ME, XP and vista.

im pretty sure no bashing will be from the current XP users that upgrade, btu form vista users now, who are content.

and really, why should you expect vista to run on the same hardware that XP did when XP first came out? vista came a good 6-7 years later, and im glad it does have higher limits as that way people buy better PCs :)


as for sales, IICR vista has been MS fastest selling OS. but i may be wrong, ddint look to much into that.
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Originally posted by spamual:
and really, why should you expect vista to run on the same hardware that XP did when XP first came out? vista came a good 6-7 years later, and im glad it does have higher limits as that way people buy better PCs :)
I'd already made that clear in my previous reply; try and think outside the Microsoft mentality, there's many OS'es out there that don't need to use every ounce of processing power (just to run the OS, and i haven't even mentioned newer versions of Microsoft Outlook - Outlook alone can bring the latest P4 machines to their knees). Not everyone has/wants to have the very latest hardware (though i personally i have a fairly recent Q6600 machine and a handful of Dual Core machines plus some older kit).
For instance at work the vast majority of pc's (many hundred) simply don't have the oomph to run anything modern. Granted, those machines are (over)due for replacement hence will then have the oomph, but the company doesn't want or need to use Vista just because it's the latest offering, they like to sit back and watch Microsoft to see if it's worth upgrading to, plus one of their key business strategies is to NOT be guinea pigs for companies' software (that applies to every software supplier they deal with btw). What i mean by this is that they sit back and wait until other big companies have used software long enough to know if it's good enough for them to run/wait for lots of the inevitable kinks to be fixed. Also, let's not forget that in companies it's not a small task to upgrade OS'es and other software, it can be a huge undertaking. Can you imagine how company IT bosses must feel after doing huge upgrades only to find they have to do it all again after a short period of time ?, my guess is they wouldn't all be best pleased.

I'm not knocking Vista for the sake of it, i admit to not having used it yet. But if Windows 7 is more lean than Vista then i'll definitely be interested, but NOT if it's a big bloated monster. One of my favourite (current) Linux distributions can run on old P2 hardware and much lesser hardware than that, though the oldest machines i still have in use these days are P3 600's. As i have a mix of old and new machines i use software that's a good fit for each particular machine. I don't believe in ditching hardware (or software) just because it's old or slow, old hardware can still run either the original software or modern lean equivalents ie Linux.
I have been using Windows since it first came out (even the atrocious WinMe), and variants of DOS before it, so i'm not a Microsoft hater, i just never bought into all the Vista hype, i won't blindly follow Microsoft for ever more just because i liked most of their previous releases (and the same goes for Linux, i will shout as much as the next person if a Linux distro's latest version is crap, slow or just plain pointless).

To finish, i'll repeat what i said further up this reply, If Windows 7 is more lean than Vista then i'll be interested, but NOT if it's a big bloated monster, otherwise i'll be sticking to XP and Linux on my little fleet of machines.



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